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Offline ilovesunshine

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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2018, 11:39 AM »
Proud of this! My new 45 degree cutting skills, and it fits quite neatly around the hinge 🙂 had to fiddle with the first ones to minimise the gap 🙂

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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2018, 11:53 AM »
Dog groomers evidently use dremels to grind dog's nails.  They say it works well and they're cheaper and better than ones made specifically for dogs.

I don't believe anyone really makes "real" cordless routers (yet) aside from small trim routers since they do require so much power.

Hahaha!!! Whether you’re joking or not, either way it’s funny!!

Yes everything in the box of attachments that came with it is so teeny!!

LOL I was being serious.  2 different pet stores suggested that we go to a hardware store to buy a Dremel instead of a dog nail grinder.  I thought it was "safer" to get one with a guard and ended up buying the Oster Gentle Paws, which is broken after half of 1 use.  I guess I need to buy a cordless Dremel now  [big grin] or maybe we'll just keep taking our dog to the store to have the pros do it.
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2018, 07:26 PM »
Dog groomers evidently use dremels to grind dog's nails.  They say it works well and they're cheaper and better than ones made specifically for dogs.

I don't believe anyone really makes "real" cordless routers (yet) aside from small trim routers since they do require so much power.

Hahaha!!! Whether you’re joking or not, either way it’s funny!!

Yes everything in the box of attachments that came with it is so teeny!!

LOL I was being serious.  2 different pet stores suggested that we go to a hardware store to buy a Dremel instead of a dog nail grinder.  I thought it was "safer" to get one with a guard and ended up buying the Oster Gentle Paws, which is broken after half of 1 use.  I guess I need to buy a cordless Dremel now  [big grin] or maybe we'll just keep taking our dog to the store to have the pros do it.

Haha wow - never realised !! What sort of dog or dogs do you have? 🙂

We got a clipper for removing our Maine coon cats fur balls - they aren’t thrilled about the noise it makes but will allow a short bit so you have to be very strategic about it!! Lol maybe the dremel has a clipper attachment!!

Wasn’t impressed that the router bit I bought was too wide to fit in the hole it needed to and on calling them they said “oh. you need a special collet” well ffs why not just make the router bit with a thinner shank to fit in the tool to begin with?!! Luckily I’d bought another thing which did fit and worked and Dad had some mini router bits too which was excellent!

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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2018, 07:37 PM »
Today’s progress😀

Finished all door cladding except the last bit on the right side of the far door - the one I’ll have to take the door off to fit. It was getting late and the bit of cladding I’d cut had a huge knot in it and was quite warped when I halved its width so I’ll use a new bit tomorrow.



So tomorrow I’m planning to:

Get up super early and go buy some sadolin classic wood stain as recommended by Peter Parfitt (thanks Peter if you’re still reading this thread)

Will have to take my chances with the colour as sadolins samples still haven’t come and I ordered them Monday 🙁

After a dark green ideally or mellow lighter green. Nothing too bright.

If any of you have used any of these and have photos that’d be great! Please Share! Total long shot but you never know!

Then come home, do last bit of cladding, start the locks!

I did them before for my Big Box (the 3.2 long x 1.1m tall x 85cm deep thing) and they’re still ok so I’ll take it slowly and carefully! 🙂

Hopefully I’ll have time still to cut the roof ply and attach and do one coat of stain at some point.

I also need to cut the corner pieces and put on the front 2 Bolts on each door and the far cupboards handles.

I also thought using my new router and new router basic skills (?!) I could repurpose 2 bits of cladding to make a double rounded edge thing to attach to the right hand door of each cupboard to cover the join between the 2 doors. There’s probably a name for it - weatherproofing strip?

🙂 will update tmrw 🙂


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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2018, 07:51 PM »
Here’s photos of my big box 🙂

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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2018, 07:53 PM »
This all went in my Volvo in pieces. 😉 just 😅

Took a few tries!!

Ready to go...


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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2018, 07:58 PM »
Where it still lives now 😀 locks are still good nearly 2 years later. It’s pretty covered and dry in its new home though 🙂 its been and still is, MOST Useful 🙂 learnt loads doing it. 🙂



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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2018, 08:33 PM »
Those look nice.  And the earlier low units have stayed looking nice as well.

I have visions of these on top of your car going down the road to the new home.  Good luck with that next step!

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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2018, 05:44 PM »
Haha wow - never realised !! What sort of dog or dogs do you have? 🙂

We got a clipper for removing our Maine coon cats fur balls - they aren’t thrilled about the noise it makes but will allow a short bit so you have to be very strategic about it!! Lol maybe the dremel has a clipper attachment!!

Wasn’t impressed that the router bit I bought was too wide to fit in the hole it needed to and on calling them they said “oh. you need a special collet” well ffs why not just make the router bit with a thinner shank to fit in the tool to begin with?!! Luckily I’d bought another thing which did fit and worked and Dad had some mini router bits too which was excellent!

We have a 7 1/2 month old Mini Labradoodle named Parker.  I actually made a post back in January asking about getting a dog.  There's a picture of Parker the day we brought him home in this specific post.

We tried to get him exposed to the sound and vibration of clippers and grinders at a young age so he doesn't seem to mind too much when a professional does it.  He doesn't like to sit still at home when we try.  One of the groomers said it's common for dogs to behave like that when they're at home in their own territory.  We also tried using just regular dog nail clippers, but it was hard because we were scared of cutting too deeply and the nails we did manage to cut were rather sharp, hence grinding seems better!

I've been planning on making a new post to update everyone on how much Parker has grown.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2018, 08:05 PM »
Funny you should mention that. Bought a roof rack today. Just in case 😉

The black box all fitted inside the car - nothing on the roof at all 😀 in pieces obviously!

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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2018, 08:14 PM »
This is the first coat of the green stain.

Adjusted the doors just cutting the cladding so there’s a wider gap in the middle as the wood cladding is very dry now and don’t want the doors to swell when it rains and not close!

Managed to persuade Dad to get his bigger pretty old router out to repurpose some cladding into the weatherproof pieces to go over the doors in the middle attached to the right hand door.

Cut the corner pieces.

Have located 2 locks on the right hand door which was hard enough - using a combo of the dinky dremel router, a 16mm wide long wood drill bit to get rid of a lot of the wood, the multicutter with a long rectangular wood blade and a chisel and hammer.

It’s not perfect but it’s flush with the door frame. Although as these are only the 3rd and 4th lochs I’ve ever fitted in my whole life, I just remembered now I’m about to sleep there’s a nice silver rectangular plate that goes over the bit I’m all proud I got fairly flush. Lol so might have to cut this deeper tomorrow!

And the small, minor, easy matter of ensuring the lock bolt actually fits into the stay... wish me luck! Have a great weekend everyone 🙂😀


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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2018, 08:55 PM »
Annoyingly, I got up v early today to go to get the wood stain tinted - took pot luck with the colour - thought go lighter so I still have the option to make it darker - soon as I got back the sadolin samples arrived! Typical! Seems to dry a different colour than it seems.

@GoingMyWay Parker is gorgeous!!! Beautiful dog! Thanks for sharing 🙂

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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2018, 09:57 PM »
This all went in my Volvo in pieces. 😉 just 😅
Took a few tries.

I read this and thought that’s impossible until I ran across this photo. Now I know how you did it.

Great job by the way. Love the additional triangulation you add to the project. Nice touch.
   
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2018, 10:13 PM »
@GoingMyWay Parker is gorgeous!!! Beautiful dog! Thanks for sharing 🙂

Thanks!  He's very photogenic and looks super cute in pictures, but don't be fooled - he's a monster!!  Boundless energy, still likes to bite me, and he loves to destroy his stuffed toys.  We still love him though. 
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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2018, 11:17 PM »
@ilovesunshine - were you able to find a solution for racking in the door frames? Did the careful application of the cladding take care of it? If not you might think about mounting heavy screw eyes on opposing corners inside the doors and then rigging a cable and turnbuckle between them. Based on the way you constructed the door frames you would have to cut some groves in the cross pieces but this would provide a method that could be easily adjusted over time as required. If you go down this road simply measure the diagonals on the inside of the door and mount the cable on the longer diagonal.

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« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2018, 04:55 AM »
Those doors should have had some cross bracing going downwards towards the hinges.



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« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2018, 05:51 AM »
Those doors should have had some cross bracing going downwards towards the hinges.
Should be possible to retroactively add them.

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« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2018, 06:24 AM »
This all went in my Volvo in pieces. 😉 just 😅
Took a few tries.

I read this and thought that’s impossible until I ran across this photo. Now I know how you did it.

Great job by the way. Love the additional triangulation you add to the project. Nice touch.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Indeed! Could really use something like that!! Althhough I don't think it would get down the Cornish lanes to collect the sheds!! Haha!!!!

Thanks about the triangulation - I only did it because I wanted as wide an opening as possible - in hindsight I think the metal corner flat pieces might've been better, but it's all good learning - plus thanks to the Festool guide rail the top 2 aren't 45's - they are more like a 43 and a 47 (approx - I'm not that good yet!)


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« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2018, 06:26 AM »
@GoingMyWay Parker is gorgeous!!! Beautiful dog! Thanks for sharing 🙂

Thanks!  He's very photogenic and looks super cute in pictures, but don't be fooled - he's a monster!!  Boundless energy, still likes to bite me, and he loves to destroy his stuffed toys.  We still love him though.

I was totally fooled - he looks super sweet and calm and mellow LOL - that's great you encourage him ;-) We are hoping to get a dog when we move house in a couple of months. Hadn't even heard about miniature labradoodles!! What do they weigh when fully grown? As normal labradoodles are quite big arent' they! Anyway I digress!

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« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2018, 06:36 AM »
@ilovesunshine - were you able to find a solution for racking in the door frames? Did the careful application of the cladding take care of it? If not you might think about mounting heavy screw eyes on opposing corners inside the doors and then rigging a cable and turnbuckle between them. Based on the way you constructed the door frames you would have to cut some groves in the cross pieces but this would provide a method that could be easily adjusted over time as required. If you go down this road simply measure the diagonals on the inside of the door and mount the cable on the longer diagonal.

Hi @Alanbach thank you for your comments - no nobody replied to me about the doors so all I did was to clamp the doors flush with the bottom and top of the frames as I was screwing on the cladding and I made sure to have one extra horizontal piece of framing on each door frame than I'd put on the back and side panels so more places to screw it - I didn't add the diagonal wood pieces like I did for the small doors of my black short long box - as those still warped a little bit and are pretty dry where they are - so i thought it would just add weight to the doors and not solve the problem!!

I thought about some sort of metal construction strap but the didn't think that would work - Peter's shed below is excellent and I had bought those type of hinges before and fully intended to use them (will reply to that properly in a minute)

What I Do have that you can't see yet - as I haven't added photos of it here yet - the left hand door of each box has a vertical bolt inside top and bottom, and it goes into not just a hole in the wood but I cut a small length of copper plumbing pipe (Dad's idea when I asked him for help and suggestions to stop the hole in the wood getting burred easily!)  and drilled a big hole in the wood and glued that copper pipe in with epoxy glue to protect the wood from if the bolts are undone and done up a few times a day.

Then on the right hand door I was planning to add horizontal bolts on the top and bottom of the outside. Plus there will be the lock in the middle as well (all being well later today!)

I couldn't think of a better option working with what I have made. Hindsight is a wonderful thing LOL

You idea of the cables inside is EXCELLENT. DO you mean with a metal cable? Ill have to look up what a turnbuckle is sorry I am quite a novice at all this. Is it sort of like a rachet strap but with metal cable?? That sounds light and excellent - I will ask about this. And did you mean to put it on EVERY diagonal (or just say the main 2 per door? As I have 4 possible mini diagonals on each door as I added the extra framing so I'd have more places to screw the cladding.

From experience with the other shed the cladding will warp to the wood rather than stop the other wood warping - it's only 15mm thick but I really like the way it looks :-) Thank you so much for your great suggestion :-)
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« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2018, 06:48 AM »
Those doors should have had some cross bracing going downwards towards the hinges.

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Hi Peter,

Thank you so much for your input. Those doors are doors of EXCELLENCE - they look lovely :) Is that one of your sheds?

Yes there are many things I've learnt from this:

1) those long gate type hinges you have to put on the outside - ie on top of the cladding - I did buy some ages ago when I made the frames (In April) but hadn't thought how to do to the doors then.

Yes next time I make a shed I will look at making it differently as those doors look loads better.

2) Does the cross bracing work super well? AS My 2x2 stuff warped just like everything else. I had put a post about what to use as was thinking of something like 8 x 1 or some sort of thing - I had thought about using more cladding to cross brace it like in your photo but thought it would just warp like the rest of it so need something thicker.

To be honest when I made my big box (the black wide short one) I had no idea about construction so we went to a local timber yard and peeked at how they had done their  framing - plus I had to make it so I could flatpack it and easily and fast reassemble it which was a factor.

I had watched your onduline roofing video for your shed and your shed doors even though you weren't talking about them, didn't go unnoticed. I think I will need to practice making some doors like you pictured.

I had in my head I had to make the frames, hang them and then clad them. But I guess if you make the whole doors first in the way in your photo, they are probably lighter than mine, and then you hang them later.

Still, I am hoping the bolts will hold it for now. Learnt so much - both about how to do things better and what not to do LOL :-)

So, today I have to :

1. Cut the marine ply roof x 2

2. Cut out the stay part of the locks x 2 and figure out whether I need to cut out more from what I cut out yesterday so the plate that goes over the lock bit is flush. AND make sure the hole for the key is in a very accurate place.

If any of you have any master tips to help me not mess this up - that would be great! Presently the lock is nestled in the 2 x 2 frame - so the key hole looking from the inside of the door - is half on half off the edge of the 2 x 2!! There are nice eschutcheons supplied with the lock :-) Could I drill through the top round bit of the lock / keyhole with a suitable sized drill bit so it comes out the front in the right place? That was my idea but as luck would have it the hole is right on the edge of my 2 x 2 - was planning to add extra wood there inside to protect the rest of the lock but just want something functional for now - can add that in London if I don't have time here.

3. Make a planed pine small double bed frame (totally irrelevant to this thread!) - but rather than just screw it all together if I have time I will attempt to router and wood glue some small non structural joints like extra struts in the head board just to stop the pillows falling out!

4. It took me around 2.5 hours to paint all this last night. Still not sure about the colour - it seems to go on quite turqouisey but then mellows a bit - will see how it looks today. Was after a dark green ideally but at least it shows the grain of the wood.

Hope it's dry - paint shop guys said 16hours between coats - ideally would like to have 3 coats but only have enough wood stain for 2 - although maybe I won't use so much today if the wood absorbed more yesterday as it was the first coat. So I have one more coat of stain to do but will do after I've done all my cutting! Plus need to give it time to dry as didn't finish until gone midnight last night!!

So I'll see how long everything else takes me and go from there :-)

Have a lovely day and will check in from time to time to see if anyone has any Lock Helpful Advice :-)  Thank you so much for your comments and help :-)
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Re: Garden Sheds - In Progress :)
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2018, 06:53 AM »
Those doors should have had some cross bracing going downwards towards the hinges.
Should be possible to retroactively add them.

YES!! Will consider - what size of wood would you recommend?? :-)

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« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2018, 08:14 AM »
FYI one shed has to fit here
Built bottom bits to fit around join of drainpipes - welcome suggestions for ply and coroline roof - there’s a balcony 2 floors above so should be fairly dry but still want to avoid water getting in it if Poss!

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« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2018, 08:15 AM »


Shed cut to fit - needed to keep length as there’s railway sleeper garden raised beds the other end so a fixed space!

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« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2018, 09:17 AM »
I was totally fooled - he looks super sweet and calm and mellow LOL - that's great you encourage him ;-) We are hoping to get a dog when we move house in a couple of months. Hadn't even heard about miniature labradoodles!! What do they weigh when fully grown? As normal labradoodles are quite big arent' they! Anyway I digress!

Sorry for getting your post way off track.

Whenever someone meets Parker in person they usually comment about how much energy he has.

The breeder we got him from estimated that he wouldn't weigh anymore than 30-35lbs.  The breeder was basing that estimate off the fact that his mother only weighed 35lbs and his father was a mini red poodle, which I believe is quite small - like 15-20lbs.  I guess the offspring *usually* won't be bigger than the parents.

We haven't weighed him lately, but we think he's close to 30lbs right now.  My wife's cousin also has a "mini" labradoodle, but something happened because he weighs like 50 lbs and is quite large.  I think I'd have preferred if Parker was a little bit bigger, but I suppose it's better to have a slightly smaller dog than a larger dog.

We've been taking him for swimming lessons the last 5 weeks.  We thought the exercise would be good to try to tire him out, unfortunately he seems to have only gotten stronger.  The first 2 lessons he needed a life jacket.  Now he can swim unassisted and tread water for a fair amount of time.

Here's a picture from last week of Parker.


Sometimes I feel like he's got some cat mixed in with him.
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« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2018, 10:29 AM »
I was totally fooled - he looks super sweet and calm and mellow LOL - that's great you encourage him ;-) We are hoping to get a dog when we move house in a couple of months. Hadn't even heard about miniature labradoodles!! What do they weigh when fully grown? As normal labradoodles are quite big arent' they! Anyway I digress!

Sorry for getting your post way off track.

Whenever someone meets Parker in person they usually comment about how much energy he has.

The breeder we got him from estimated that he wouldn't weigh anymore than 30-35lbs.  The breeder was basing that estimate off the fact that his mother only weighed 35lbs and his father was a mini red poodle, which I believe is quite small - like 15-20lbs.  I guess the offspring *usually* won't be bigger than the parents.

We haven't weighed him lately, but we think he's close to 30lbs right now.  My wife's cousin also has a "mini" labradoodle, but something happened because he weighs like 50 lbs and is quite large.  I think I'd have preferred if Parker was a little bit bigger, but I suppose it's better to have a slightly smaller dog than a larger dog.

We've been taking him for swimming lessons the last 5 weeks.  We thought the exercise would be good to try to tire him out, unfortunately he seems to have only gotten stronger.  The first 2 lessons he needed a life jacket.  Now he can swim unassisted and tread water for a fair amount of time.

Here's a picture from last week of Parker.
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Sometimes I feel like he's got some cat mixed in with him.

lol that’s great! Wow he’s grown since the othe photos! He’s lovely!! Stopped for lunch! We had a jack Russell terrier growing up called Pip, she was amazing! She used to play with our cat for hours! So funny! Cat always had the upper hand lol! I love how loyal and inquisitive dogs are! My parents neighbours here have a lovely black Labrador called Freddie - he came in to inspect the sheds the other night! Soon as we move and get ourselves sorted will consider a dog! Great he’s swimming! We have Maine coon cats! Your post made me chuckle and think of this:


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« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2018, 10:31 AM »
In shed news, phew...

Dad helped me avert a near disaster (don’t ask!) so the lock progress inches forwards... 😀😅😅😀

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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2018, 11:07 AM »
This isn’t too bad is it??! For my third lifetime attempt?! It’s not deep enough yet 😢 and not seen if the lock actually fits in it... (minor details..,!)

But it’s not too bad for a girl is it?! 😀😀


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« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2018, 11:27 AM »
Hurrah!!!! I’m about 60% relieved 40% very pleased!!

One down... One to go!!


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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2018, 11:58 AM »
lol that’s great! Wow he’s grown since the othe photos! He’s lovely!! Stopped for lunch! We had a jack Russell terrier growing up called Pip, she was amazing! She used to play with our cat for hours! So funny! Cat always had the upper hand lol! I love how loyal and inquisitive dogs are! My parents neighbours here have a lovely black Labrador called Freddie - he came in to inspect the sheds the other night! Soon as we move and get ourselves sorted will consider a dog! Great he’s swimming! We have Maine coon cats! Your post made me chuckle and think of this:



Wow I always thought cats hate the water, a swimming cat is awesome.  We weren't sure how Parker would even react to the water - we just knew he didn't like taking a bath in the bath tub.

Here's a video from last week of Parker at the pool trying to be patient and wait: .

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