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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2012, 06:21 PM » |
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Surprised the floor didnt go down before the work top returns went on the sides now you have to try and cut round them but then how do you leave a expansion gap
Looks good. Clean and simple. Do you know what the final solution was in regards to what jmb mentions above?? |
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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2012, 06:24 PM » |
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they cut the floor tight to the worktop.
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Kristian
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« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2012, 06:27 PM » |
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So no room made for expansion in the floor?
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« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2012, 06:35 PM » |
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yeah theres room for it at the other end
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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2012, 07:20 PM » |
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yeah theres room for it at the other end
Its engineered so not to bad! But I had a solid floor fail by just leaving expansion on side only. I won't be doing that again! Jmb |
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 05:43 PM » |
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2012, 03:24 PM » |
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Heres another Started this morning on this porcelanosa kitchen. View this morning  End of the day  Nice touch on the sink units  Metal legs  Thing i didnt like was the dead size end panels so they have a gap as scribing to get them back might impact on appliances but i dont know because they aint there. |
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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2012, 03:34 PM » |
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I hate end panels dead on size! Who ever decided that was a good idea are a complete IDIOT! and need shooting really! they need their head kicking in! any way! In the past I have made a feature out of it by sticking a 40mm or so piece of end panel to scribe to the wall and then stick another 40mm or what ever you want at the front but have it set back then stick the dead on size panel on top looks quite nice! BUT you do end up needing to get another end panel to cut up other ways to get around it but CAULK is not the option if its above 5mm  JMB |
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2012, 03:46 PM » |
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These are high gloss black panels so you cant really see the gap. Gonna tape up and silicone it up with black. Its the option the customer wanted
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2012, 04:00 PM » |
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Could u not use some black laminate? The black silicone will stick out like a sore thumb as it won't have the gloss finish to it.
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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2012, 04:03 PM » |
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Well its been discussed and they decided on black silicone. They may change thier minds after its done. But they not prepared to wait 6 weeks for a bigger replacements
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2012, 04:05 PM » |
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Well its been discussed and they decided on black silicone. They may change thier minds after its done. But they not prepared to wait 6 weeks for a bigger replacements
Make them Dean!!! I would! lol JMB |
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2012, 04:08 PM » |
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A sheet of Black laminate shouldn't take 6 weeks to get.
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2012, 04:15 PM » |
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A sheet of Black laminate shouldn't take 6 weeks to get.
When its all made in spain it does, this kitchen cost them a fortune, the cabs are a high quality but the doors not so much IMHO. |
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2012, 04:18 PM » |
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I can drive from the west to the east of Ireland in two hours and pick up a sheet black gloss laminate and then stick it on with contact adhesive. A sheet 10' x 4' sheet of it shouldn't cost a fortune.
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2012, 04:23 PM » |
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I can drive from the west to the east of Ireland in two hours and pick up a sheet black gloss laminate and then stick it on with contact adhesive. A sheet 10' x 4' sheet of it shouldn't cost a fortune.
Dude ffs. I work for labour only on this, if the customer doesnt want to pay for it they dont want to pay for it! |
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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2012, 04:28 PM » |
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Fair point dude! I wasn't getting personal with you.  |
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2012, 04:31 PM » |
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Sorry about the rant, i would love to replace it, pity the plasterer cant bloody dab the walls straight, it suddenly bends away jus before the last unit, we scribed them back so far but looking at the appliances its was getting too tight so customer made the choice. Its only 500mm long so its not massive.
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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2012, 04:35 PM » |
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It's a shame other people in their trade don't take the same care and attention to detail like we do to our work. It takes a few extra minutes to it right rather than wrong.
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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2012, 04:38 PM » |
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It seems to be always yhe plasterer for me. The boards kick out 5mm in the bottom 400mm
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« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2012, 04:55 PM » |
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I always expect the room to be as bent as £9 note, that way im pleasantly surprised if I can set my worktop jig with a square instead of a bevel. Finished a flat in rotherhithe last week where the old kitchen wall cabs were just screwed to the plasterboard no expansion anchors or even standard plaserboard fixings. The fact its lasted 20yrs is a miracle.
They never vented the intergrated fridge/freezer which scortched all the plasterboard behind it and they plumbed in a washing machine infront of a smashed socket. Complete deathtrap.
Back wall was 25mm batten masonry nailed to cast concerete with plasterboard nailed to it which was as solid as a cup of soup.
Its a shame most of the building trade are utterly useless.
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« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2012, 05:00 PM » |
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Thing is we have to compete against those that are utterly useless on price.
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2012, 05:12 PM » |
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Always the way. As a joiner we've had it with knobs making things in there garden shed for next to nothing now we have joinery being made in eastern europe and even china on big jobs. Chippys have always had to put up with the handyman bodgers. Its just nice to have enough work on to be able to tell people that if they want it done properly thats what it will cost. If you want it cheap your on your own.
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« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2012, 05:47 AM » |
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You should go to westward for your multipoint stuff then mate as by the sounds of that you are paying way too much!
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« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2012, 01:40 PM » |
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You should go to westward for your multipoint stuff then mate as by the sounds of that you are paying way too much!
£140 seems a fair price for the era multi point I believe. Jmb |
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« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2012, 02:08 PM » |
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You should go to westward for your multipoint stuff then mate as by the sounds of that you are paying way too much!
Westwards, thats it, been racking my brain for that name for ages, when jmb and i first spoke about this lock i was going to point him there but ouldnt think on the name, and yeas they are cheaper there, they have some real good deals. |
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« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2012, 02:33 PM » |
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£140?  ?? jesus christ how do you make money spending that much on a lock? (then again I am currently making a house of doorsets where the hinges cost £100 per leaf) you can half that at westwards and there locks are top knotch, they have reasonable sized keeps not silly aluminium grade keeps with 2mm clearance. There delivery is fantastic but there website is crap utter crap so your better off phoning them. |
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« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2012, 04:10 PM » |
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£140? ?? jesus christ how do you make money spending that much on a lock? (then again I am currently making a house of doorsets where the hinges cost £100 per leaf) you can half that at westwards and there locks are top knotch, they have reasonable sized keeps not silly aluminium grade keeps with 2mm clearance. There delivery is fantastic but there website is crap utter crap so your better off phoning them. With slave lock slickest one iv seen so far others have a much large catch plates which I hate! and other require a 40mm thick timber fixed to the slave door which I also hate. Make money lol Dude im payed per hour or per day. JMB |
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« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2012, 04:22 PM » |
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Ahh top and bottom shootbolts work of the devil those things absolutely hate them, I remember the mila hardware locks with those things dirt always got caught in the bottom hole and if the door moved the top one would jam and the lock wouldent budge.
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