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This vessel stands 23" tall and 13" in diameter. It has 1495 individual pieces. The woods used are Monterillo, Black Limba, Hard Maple, Wenge, walnut, Inlace Turquoise and Gaboon Black ebony. It took about 6 months to build (this was the project before the big humidor) I used my ETS125EQ to sand as it's spinning on the lathe. Sanding this way allows one to prevent the straight lines you get by using sandpaper alone. It also makes for a better looking finish. As always comments are very welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 07:05 PM » |
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Very nice!
I've been turning for several years and have wanted to try segmented turning.
Do you use a drum sander to sand the layers before glue-up?
Tom.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 07:13 PM » |
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Wow! That is art! I'll trade one column for one of those. Beautiful.
Eiji
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Bill Wyko
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 07:18 PM » |
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Thanks!  Yes, I use the performax 22-44 drum sander. You can get a book about Ray Allen that tells you other methods to get a flat surface. I thought I should mention that this piece is only th 15th piece I ever turned. Im only up to 18 right now. I've goofed around inbetween projects but I began my turning when I bought a Jet mini lathe in December 06' Then I bought the Jet 1442vs in march of 07' thats when I built this vessel. Thanks again for the kind words.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 07:22 PM » |
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Absolutely stunning and outstanding work!!
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Rob
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 07:23 PM » |
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I have a table project comming up which is composed of maybe 80 pieces, which i thought much, but it pales in comparisson to the Monsoon.
Hats off, applause.
Great project.
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Bill Wyko
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 07:40 PM » |
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Thanks Johne.If I can be of any help please let me know. I haven't done segmenting very long but I did have a fast learning curve. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 09:42 AM » |
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Great work, Bill! Now if you were only closer I would be twisting your arm to get you to teach a segmented turning class for the middle school program that just received all the great Festool and stationary power tools. They would enjoy what you have done so well and some would also experience a "rapid learning curve".
Seriously, if you can fit time into your schedule, seek out a local school with a wood working program and talk with the teacher(s) about doing a show and tell for their students. Your work would be a real inspiration for them and sharing it with eager students would be a joy for you as well. We look forward to seeing your future projects.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 11:09 AM » |
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Hi, That is quite a piece woodworking, engineering, and art. A difficult combo to pull off. Awesome!  How did you come up with the name- "monsoon"? Seth
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 02:54 PM » |
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Last summer during the monsoon season, every night that I got time to work on it, it was raining like heck. If there's one thing I love, it's a downpour while I'm in my work shop.  Not to mention the downpour of a learning curve this vessel caused. A year ago this time I was just building my shop so no insulation made it fun. As far as teaching students goes, as much as I would love to do that, I have 2 businesses in addition to my woodwork and my father just had a very extensive spinal surgery at the age of 81. I'll be helping to care for him until he is better. He'll be in the hospital for a total of 1-1/2 months. The doctor said it was the most complicated spinal surgery they've seen in 20 years. To make things worse, they had to go back in and remove some infection 2 days ago after being 2 weeks into it. Once he gets past this he shoud be better than he's been in 25 years. What I can recommend is getting 2 books, 1 is the book by Malcolm Tibbetts and the other is about Ray Allen. Rays book has a 1,2,3 style explanation on how to make a project. That's how I got started. I think I mentioned that Monsoon is only my 15th turning I ever attempted. Those books REALLY helped. If any of you ever want to try segmented turning let me know and I'll walk you through a project. I can send you a printed diagram that will tell you everything you need to know, cuts, angles, dimentions. Even a color picture of what it should look like.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 03:25 PM » |
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turning leaves me cold, it doesnt interest me in the slightest but clever turning such as this it utterly fascinating to me and i like this work  well done that man
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Bill Wyko
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 08:46 PM » |
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Thanks DD. It really makes it worth while when it stirs people in this way.I'm glad you like it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 02:42 AM » |
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I just found a memory card I was missing I think I have more pictures of the build of this piece. If I have the pics I'm looking for I'll post some of the things I was forced to learn. You can't stop so you have to educate yourself. (Or the piece ends up on the shelf of unfinished doom) I try to keep that shelf to a minium 
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008, 01:08 PM » |
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I'm sorry, I'll post the pics in a little while. I have to run for parts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 02:41 PM » |
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Here's a pic of a ring that didn't lign up correctly. No way to fix it properly. I call this the circle of knowledge. I made a circle and gained the knowledge that I did it wrong.  There's another pic of how it looks done right in a couple applications. Also some pics of some rings going together.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2008, 05:19 PM » |
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Here's a few shots of my first "So called" art show. The promoter never promoted it as promised so it was only traffic that saw the signs on the side of the road. Good time but no money made.
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2008, 01:03 AM » |
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Dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again, your work is amazing. You should have a gallery to sell that art. I don't know what your businesses are but you might consider changing to Fine woodworking. Absolutely beautiful!!
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2008, 11:32 AM » |
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Thanks very much. I own Audio 2000 and WYCO offroad in Tucson AZ. I don't have a website for the offroad but my site for Audio 2000 is www.audio2000az.com My site is acting up right now but you can try to check out the gallery. We've been named one of the top 100 installation shops in the USA 7 times. Believe me, there are times I'd like to do just woodwork. I've only sold about 4 or 5 pieces of my work so far. For my tool investment, I've still got a long way to go to break even  So for now, I have to continue with the bread annd butter. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2008, 12:54 PM » |
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It looks like you do awsome systems also.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2008, 01:01 PM » |
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Thanks. I've always believed my best advertizing dollar is a little more time spent doing a better job than the competition. Seems to have a better return. 
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2008, 01:13 PM » |
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I bet you get much of your business from references from previous patrons. Also just from people seeing the quality work.
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2008, 01:27 PM » |
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Bill already knows I love his work.
You know in my business, references and previous patrons mean very little. Yeah, its great to get a reference, but depending on what you do it may or may not matter. Seriously, the best advertising dollar from a business point of view is paying for the google search words. Specifically for a small woodworking company with a single worker selling single items.
If you have the balls to spend a 1000.00 a month not knowing you will get a sale, using a search engine for your web site is the way to go. Not sitting around waiting for references..You could never get 5000 people looking at your stuff almost every day, like I do from google. From references its just not possible.
I am not saying do not do good work. I am saying from a business point of view the guy that ONLY relies on good references is not making as much money as the average worker using google search words or something similar. Actually, if you rely only on references you are probably out of business.
If Bill would let me make him a web site and post certain pictures of his excellent work and spend on google search, I could get him more work than he can ever possibly make, I am sure of that.
Make the items to the best of your ability every time and do not think that making a single client happy is going to make you money. Use that good work to show thousands what you can do. Word of mouth just is not what it use to be in this day and age of the internet and people who think they can compete by word of mouth only are living in the past. Since I started over 25 years ago word of mouth has decreased in making me sales. In the last 4 years I get 20 jobs or more for every call I even get by a referral. Its not that my quality is not there, it is a numbers game.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2008, 04:06 PM » |
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Let me know what you would be able to work out for me on my buggies and my woodwork. Maby some trading?  The guy that made my site did a good job but I've had problems and Google doesn't find my site because it's flash and not a word program.
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I bet you get much of your business from references from previous patrons. Also just from people seeing the quality work. Don, you're in Phoenix? I'm in Tucson.  Maby we'll run into each other. Word of mouth keeps us busy in Car Audio. I do run TV adds for the offroad though. (I sell Joyner dune buggies out of Phoenix, I'm up there regularly.)
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I wonder if Graphix can give you better hints than me. He may know more about the problems with flash and how to overcome them without reworking the entire site. He seems to be in the know for this stuff.
I have gotten to where if I do NOT use adwords and do not pay for searchable words I still get on the first or second page every time on google and yahoo. But it was a long process of figuring out what exactly worked for me.
If you use adwords and pay for the correct keywords you should have instantaneous placement on the first page.
I want to look at your site and fish around your type items a few days on the web and see what and how google is finding your competition. Your work is good, we just have to get your stuff in front of the people who want it, like it and understand it, ie an appreciation for a hand made piece. Hand made meaning small shop tools.
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2008, 01:48 AM » |
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Wow, Bill!
did you build everything? The tables too? Awesome. Dudes got skills.
Eiji
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2008, 03:18 AM » |
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Actually, my good friend Tom builds the tables for a living. There sandstone with an epoxy coat. He too does fantastic work. I keep trying to get him to try doing some tables with wood but he's pig headded.  He's the one that talked me into going to Art shows.
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