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Offline Jim Kirkpatrick

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My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« on: June 25, 2015, 08:21 PM »
I've recently upgraded my Delta Unisaw to a SawStop 3hp PCS.  A while back, I had made an undermount drawer for my Unisaw which was very handy in somewhat freeing up the top of the table saw of all the junk that tends to accumulate on it.  Pencils, combo squares, marking knives, etc.


When I sold my Unisaw, I kept the drawer, thinking I could transfer it to my new PCS.  However, once I set up the new Sawstop, I realized that the mobile base functions entirely different from my Unisaw.  It jacks up the whole saw and lifts it off the ground, extension table and legs, et al.  Since the drawer is very heavy, I thought it might be too much for the extension table to bear when the wheels are down and active.  So I decided to make a 3 drawer cabinet on wheels that's stands free and clear of the saw.  This will give me a lot more storage as well.  My saw blades are across the shop hanging on my peg board and my stacking dado set is on some random horizontal surface, wherever I left it last.  I always wanted to have some dedicated storage for all these and more. I pondered painting it in the Sawstop color scheme (black and red) but I already had the Festool  paint from a previous project, so why not?  I've showed this to some lay-people (family and friends) and they were all eyes-glazed-over, unimpressed.  They don't understand.  But I'm stoked about having all this badly needed organization!  And of course, I used many of my prized Festools to get 'er done.  I'll document the build but first here's some finished pics:







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Offline rst

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 09:19 PM »
That's a nice solution.  I use cheap Sears rolling tool chests to the same purpose by replacing the furnished wheel with smaller ones.  I have six in all, including the one that my chop saw is mounted on with (2) 8' 8020 built extensions.  For $100 or less (scratch & dent), I have lots of drawers and mobility.  In all fairness though, I use mine in a commercial setting and use my time building for my customers more than myself.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 09:34 PM »
I know.  Ive got plenty of repurposed cabinets.  But this is one I made for just me.  I think that's why I like it so much.  I wish I had time, money and discipline to make 10 more like it.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 09:35 PM »
Nice cabinet.  Love the T-Loc.
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 09:53 PM »
Very cool.

How do you like the Sawstop sliding table?  I've been thinking about getting one.

Thanks

Offline Jamul

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 10:00 PM »
I really like it. It's a great use for that space. I like the handles. Good Job!

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 10:16 PM »
Not what I was expecting to see based on thread title!

Cool.

Offline Jim Kirkpatrick

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My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 06:58 AM »
To get started, I cut all the pieces to size on my table saw.  It's held together with dominos and pocket screws.  Prior to assembly, I glued and tacked on some 1/4" hardwood veneer on the front leading edge. 


« Last Edit: July 27, 2015, 10:07 PM by Jim Kirkpatrick »

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 07:10 AM »
Next comes laying out the drawer heights and partitions.  I want my dado set to fit in the  bottom drawer.  I made a story stick and marked for height.



Now that I have the drawer fronts and sides dimensioned and the lock miter profiles milled, I lay out for the partitions for my saw blades and the dado set before I assemble.



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My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 07:13 AM »
After I had the drawers finished, I thought the saw blades sat a little too low in the drawers so I added some plywood strips in the dados for stops.  This is design on the fly.




The beauty of a cabinet without face frames, is that there's no wasted space.  Here you can see how much drawer is crammed into the carcass. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 07:25 AM »
The back compartment is a perfect size to house my grrr-ripper push blocks.  But I thought they sat a little low by themselves in the bottom.  A lot of wasted space there.  Why not make a tray and tack in some runners?



I used a smaller lock miter bit for the 1/2" tray sides:
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 07:30 AM »
After I had the drawers all done, I found my crosscut blade was in fact, slightly larger than the ripping blade that I used to lay out the partition width.  I had the stops installed and everything.  How could I deepen the dados with the stops installed?


.......with my miniature router plane from Lee Valley.  This is a very handy little plane, would also make a great Xmas tree ornament!

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 07:34 AM »
I used these little drawer front adjuster thingies to hold the drawer fronts on....and attach the pulls.  It makes it easy to straighten them and also creates a solid connection:


If you've never used these, you drill the holes with a 20 mm forstner bit and then insert the "templates" you see pictured.  They have a point on them so that when you roughly locate them on your drawer you tap on the back with a shot filled hammer, making a dimple in the wood so you can easily locate the screw hole.  Remove the template and hammer home the drawer front adjusters and attach.  The nut floats inside the plastic so you have some degree of adjustment.
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 07:43 AM »
I think that's all I have for pictures.  A lot of planning (and materials) went into this cabinet.  It's built to last a lifetime, certainly mine anyways.  Yes, you can repurpose and old cabinet to suit your needs, but building a custom cabinet makes your experience in the shop going forward so much more productive....and enjoyable!

Offline ali

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 07:43 AM »
Beautiful setup and beautiful work.

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Offline RobNJ

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 08:06 AM »
Looks awesome. Definitely a good solution to minimize wasted space around a big machine like that table saw.

Offline teocaf

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 08:21 AM »
good work.  very informative detail pictures.
i wonder if from a design and ergonomic standpoint you considered placing the drawer pulls near the top of each drawer instead of centered.  it would look more like a systainer stack and you would not have to bend down as far to pull them out.
the saw with all the options looks really nice too.

Offline ear3

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 09:25 AM »
Great build.  I especially like the efficient saw blade storage.
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 11:45 AM »
@Jim Kirkpatrick
Great looking cabinet and well thought out storage.

It looks like the height was limited to the space under the saw wing.  You didn't mention it but it appears you based the rest of the dimensions on fitting the blades, dado set, and Grippers in that bottom drawer.  Was that your strategy?

Thanks, Mike A.
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Offline Motown

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 12:58 PM »
Jim, very cool build...I really like the way you organized your table saw accessories. Question, how are you liking the Veritas router plane? I've lots of cabinet builds coming up and a chisel and hammer are getting old.


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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 01:20 PM »
Very nice fabrication job!

Blade storage [thumbs up]

Lock miters [thumbs up]

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 02:10 PM »
Good function and looks too great job.
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Offline Jim Kirkpatrick

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 05:51 PM »
Jim, very cool build...I really like the way you organized your table saw accessories. Question, how are you liking the Veritas router plane? I've lots of cabinet builds coming up and a chisel and hammer are getting old.

The "miniature" router plane is great, albeit a bit small.  I have the small size as well.  I use it to finesse the fit of small hinges in boxes and humidors.  I don't have the large one but @iamnothim is lovin his over on his Roubo build (reply #507).

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 09:00 PM »
Nice design.  Thanks for the detailed photos!

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2015, 09:19 PM »
I will do something like this under my Sawstop Industrial. Neat idea!

Question, you have a red Freud saw blade in the drawer. I somehow thought that "painted" blades didn't work with the Sawstop brake system.

You know for sure if the do?
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2015, 09:25 PM »
As far as I know, it works.  I mean, I haven't done a real live test with a hot dog, but when I touch the blade while in standby mode, the red light illuminates.  The Freud Industrial blade is a great blade.  Far superior to any Forrest blade I've ever owned.  More than a few bucks cheaper too.  I recommend them highly.

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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2015, 09:35 PM »
Since the system relies on an electrical connection between the blade and the saw body I would not rely on an "accidental" contact with a painted blade and I would recommend removing the paint where the blade is clamped in the saw.

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My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2015, 09:53 PM »
Since the system relies on an electrical connection between the blade and the saw body I would not rely on an "accidental" contact with a painted blade and I would recommend removing the paint where the blade is clamped in the saw.
I hear ya bohdan.  But I'm not worried about it.  The saw won't even turn on without conductivity

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2015, 10:06 PM »

Very cool.

How do you like the Sawstop sliding table?  I've been thinking about getting one.

Thanks
@jbasen , Sorry, I missed this the first time around.  I love the slider but it's not perfect.  The stops need some tweaking before they work right.  Some think that for that kind of money, they should work great right out of the box.  True, but the fix is really not that hard.  I documented my fix over on Sawmill Creek if you're interested.  http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?229331-Sawstop-Sliding-Crosscut-Table-(Flip-Up-Stop-Fix)&highlight=sawstop

Offline rst

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2015, 10:20 PM »
Even if the blade is coated, where the arbor goes through there will always be conductivity.  Plus a lot of the coatings are a form of anodizing which is conductive...it's not paint.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2015, 11:36 PM »

Very cool.

How do you like the Sawstop sliding table?  I've been thinking about getting one.

Thanks
@jbasen , Sorry, I missed this the first time around.  I love the slider but it's not perfect.  The stops need some tweaking before they work right.  Some think that for that kind of money, they should work great right out of the box.  True, but the fix is really not that hard.  I documented my fix over on Sawmill Creek if you're interested.  http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?229331-Sawstop-Sliding-Crosscut-Table-(Flip-Up-Stop-Fix)&highlight=sawstop

Thanks Jim. That is great info!!

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2015, 12:25 AM »
Cool thread. Love the handles and the storage in general. Very well executed!

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2015, 07:09 AM »
Awe shucks, Scotf.  Thanks!

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2015, 09:53 AM »
Even if the blade is coated, where the arbor goes through there will always be conductivity.  Plus a lot of the coatings are a form of anodizing which is conductive...it's not paint.

Anodizing is a build up of an oxide layer on a part and it is non conductive.
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2015, 12:36 AM »
I picked up a Sawstop PCS a couple of months ago (still haven't had time to get the rails, fence, and extension assembled).  Freud blades are recommended for the saw.  I fell in love with a Freud 40 tooth full kerf combo blade in my previous Powermatic and bought another one when I picked up the Sawstop.  Oddly enough, the only Freud blade that is reportedly ill-suited to the Sawstop is the Freud Thin Kerf Glueline Rip blade (the one that was pictured in the cabinet).  Supposedly that blade, and from what I was told, only that blade, tends to grenade and come apart when/if the Sawstop's brake is activated.  I have no proof (and hope to never have any), so the validity of that statement is purely here say.

I love that cabinet.  I have been mulling over what to do under mine.  With my previous saws, that space was just a catchall for items that were infrequently used (chop saw, old Craftsman shop vac, etc...).  I can say that I will be copying your build, but I probably won't take the time to make it as pretty.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2015, 09:02 PM »
Great use of space, I agree building something custom for yourself, especially for your shop is always fun & most non woodworking folks would never understand
Question; I have a unisaw and have always been curious , besides the safety benefits does the saw stop feel much better than the unisaw ?
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2015, 10:05 PM »
Thanks, Travisj and Billy.  Over and above the safety aspect,  without a doubt it's a winner over my old Unisaw.  It cuts like butter.  I'm told it's because the arbor is massive, the industry's largest.  Overbuilt in order to take the safety brake's repeated impact.  It's also much easier to dial in the blade parallel to the miter slot.  Mine is within .001, and it was simple.  The sliding crosscut table is leaps and bounds more smooth than my old Excalibur slider.  The overhead bade guard's dust collection is right on par with Festool's...no exaggeration they claim it's 99% dust free and I agree.  That's huge for me as I'm allergic to dust.
I would say the only negative aspect is that when sliding the fence left or right, there is play that was not present in the Biesemeyer fence.  But once you lock it down, the play is completely gone.  It just takes a little getting used to.
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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2015, 12:57 AM »
I have the baby of the PCS Sawstop (1.75) and I finally got it all together.  Out of the box, the blade was off .004 from the miter.  Within 30 minutes (kids were distracting me) I had it down to less than .001 as well.  I fired it up and ran some 3/4 red oak I had laying around to set the guage on the fence.  My old Powermatic would labor and shimmy on occasion through the same material.  With this saw, I had to watch my feed rate it was sliding through so smooth.  I agree with the dust collection.  Only when I was messing around squaring ends (cutting off about 1/2") did I get some dust on the table (purely because my small cut-off held the blade guard up off of the table).  I am definitely impressed.  I had looked at another Powermatic or a Unisaw prior to buying the Sawstop and everyone I spoke with (even non-Sawstop dealers) said that safety aside, Sawstop made a heck of a nice saw.  The safety aspect just made my purchase easier to justify with my wife.  I have 7 year old twins that enjoy spending time with me in the "shop".  So far they just cut up whatever I mount in the bench with their coping saws, but they are not too far away from slowly learning and respecting powertools.

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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2017, 04:01 PM »
Nicely done! I have been planning to build a cabinet just like this to go under my SS PCS too! Thanks for the ideas!
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2017, 07:21 PM »
Even if the blade is coated, where the arbor goes through there will always be conductivity.  Plus a lot of the coatings are a form of anodizing which is conductive...it's not paint.

Anodizing is a build up of an oxide layer on a part and it is non conductive.

And here be dragons...
In the 60s (or maybe 50s), aluminum wire was used in houses, and modern physics explained how one gets electrons through a non conductive anodise.

http://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.134.A1094

I have no idea what is means for a part on a SAW stop(?)... but electron tunnelling sounds cool if nothing else.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2017, 04:52 PM »
Love the locking miters.  Nice use of space and layout. How much more efficient does it make you?
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2017, 11:57 PM »
Very nice.   Did you just get color matched latex paint for the green or did you manage to find a close shade in a spray bomb?

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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2017, 10:48 AM »
@Bubbacuse77 ,  I color matched both at Sherwin Williams.  Brought a systainer to the store.  The green was spot on, the beige is a little off but close enough.  Latex, semi-gloss

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2017, 05:51 PM »
Bought my Unisaw over 30 years ago ... I finally got around to building a cabinet for TS accessories this year. The table saw cabinet is on the right, with an out feed table behind the TS. A router top extends from the right of the table saw, in addition to the TS top itself, it is also supported by two sets of legs. One set of legs extends down to the mobile base, the other set extends to the floor. (I dont move the TS anymore [smile]) The router enclosure, below the top, is free-standing with levelers on each side so that it can be snuggled up to the bottom of the router table top. The enclosure does not provide any support; and has a removable front panel to provide for access to the router. All router bit changes are done from above the table surface, so I haven’t had any reason to get in there to date. Under the router enclosure theres room for sliding tray storage for table saw blades and dado sets. The four drawer cabinet provides storage for table saw and router attachments. The Incra fence, as shown, is positioned for use at the table saw. In this position it can also be used for limited work at the router, about 5” between the router and the fence. If additional space is needed, the fence is moved to a pre-positioned stop location at the far right end of the rail system, this gives me approximately 18” between the router cutter and the fence.

I don't know why I waited so long to build a cabinet to hold all my TS accessories in one place.

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Re: My Festool Table Saw Cabinet
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2017, 09:47 PM »
Nice setup. I see a magnetic featherboard stuck to the face of your
Unisaw, same place I keep mine.

Is the footswitch for the router?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 08:45 AM by Bob D. »
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« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2017, 07:52 AM »
Bob D - Yes the foot switch operates the router ... allows me to use both hands at the table. The foot switch is wired  in series with an on/off toggle switch mounted just under the table top. I use the toggle switch to cut power to the foot switch and router during blade changes.
I agree, I really like the magnetic feather board. Its easier to setup so i tend to use it more often. I've bought a couple of those magnetic switches and used them to make a bandsaw fence to resaw stock ... much easier then using clamps to hold down the fence.