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« on: June 08, 2012, 08:05 PM »

I just finished installing this yesterday.  This was largely a customer designed job.  They were very interested in clean lines and nothing too ornate or busy.  About the only things I added to the design were the wood framed glass shelves and the bumped out middle section.


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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 08:57 PM »

Kewl, no bead board. Too bad they did want those moldings, they're so 18th century. For the rest, nice job Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 09:10 PM »

Very nice. Very clean! I like it.
I know it is what the customer wanted but--- TVs keep getting larger!
How are they going to cram a 70" in there?   Eek!
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 09:16 PM »

Russell

Very nice work. The paint job in the first pic looks like a nice satin finish. What is it? Did you do the finish?
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 09:23 PM »

Very nice. Very clean! I like it.
I know it is what the customer wanted but--- TVs keep getting larger!
How are they going to cram a 70" in there?   Eek!

Thanks.  It's hard to tell from the pictures but the space is 8' high.  The tv they have in there is a 55" unit so it's pretty big.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 09:29 PM »

Russell

Very nice work. The paint job in the first pic looks like a nice satin finish. What is it? Did you do the finish?

Thanks Scott.  I do all my finishing and over the years that has been a huge learning process.  The paint is SW semi gloss pro classic.   I think I probably need a larger tip for my gun (I use a 1.7)because I have to thin it quite a bit to get it to lay down like I want.   I went over that with a couple of coats of Target's conversion varnish which gives me a final finish that is incredibly smooth.  It's hard to tell from these pics but a couple of the doors are yellowed from the cv.  I'll probably end up having to respray them since I'm not happy with how they look and I couldn't really see it until I had them in place at the customer's residence. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 09:33 PM »

Proclassic sprays really nice. Good job. We have been spraying alot of traditional cabinetry like that on site lately.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 10:01 PM »

Very nice. Very clean! I like it.
I know it is what the customer wanted but--- TVs keep getting larger!
How are they going to cram a 70" in there?   Eek!

Exactly. My current TV is 70" and I'm sure my next will be yet again bigger.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 02:04 AM »

Russell,

Great job again!  Pretty soon you might have to think about a career change.

Oink!

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 04:15 AM »

Nice work - but I hate those knobs and their choice of openings. Something concealed would have worked much better. Customer choice eh? Must be annoying when you have to explain your portfolio of work!

But again - the workmanship looks excellent.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 09:46 AM »

Really nice work Russell! The glass shelving and lights are a nice touch.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 11:34 AM »

Nice, it looks really well done.
If you do something like it again I'd suggest using pocket door slides, the doors can tuck into the cabinet and not cover the bookcase when open.
The only downside is you have to give more space for the doors on the sides.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 12:27 PM »

Nice, it looks really well done.
If you do something like it again I'd suggest using pocket door slides, the doors can tuck into the cabinet and not cover the bookcase when open.
The only downside is you have to give more space for the doors on the sides.

We were going to do the pocket doors initially but they opted for bifold.  That middle section is really wide (over five feet)so had they gone with the pocket doors they would have been huge.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 12:28 PM »

  New here but WOW some of the comments?? Some constructive help but some just plain rude. When you are working for someone else it takes more talent to make what the customer wants to look good then to force a customer to live with what you feel looks good. Personal taste is personal taste. There is nothing here that is wrong construction or form wise. If the customer wants a 20" Tv so be it. Did you ever think not everyone wants a 70" TV? Did you 1st ask how far the seating position is from the unit? Too big is just as bad as too small.

  The knobs are not hot pink but a simple classic design. The owner has to come home look at it and be happy not make someone hiding behind a keyboard happy. As both a woodworker and customer I would prefer a worker I can trust will implement my designs and not argue with me through the entire process and force what they want on me. Did you ever think that your design or idea would be something someone else would not like? Impossible in your mind I am sure.

I always think why don't the haters post their masterpieces when the reply with a "I hate that" post.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2012, 01:11 PM »

 New here but WOW some of the comments?? Some constructive help but some just plain rude. When you are working for someone else it takes more talent to make what the customer wants to look good then to force a customer to live with what you feel looks good. Personal taste is personal taste. There is nothing here that is wrong construction or form wise. If the customer wants a 20" Tv so be it. Did you ever think not everyone wants a 70" TV? Did you 1st ask how far the seating position is from the unit? Too big is just as bad as too small.

  The knobs are not hot pink but a simple classic design. The owner has to come home look at it and be happy not make someone hiding behind a keyboard happy. As both a woodworker and customer I would prefer a worker I can trust will implement my designs and not argue with me through the entire process and force what they want on me. Did you ever think that your design or idea would be something someone else would not like? Impossible in your mind I am sure.

I always think why don't the haters post their masterpieces when the reply with a "I hate that" post.

Calm down - nobody is "hating" anything. Also, sharing opinions and preferences is a much better exchange that parroting compliments for the sake of it. This isn't an emotional support group.

Nobody is forcing anything on anybody. Don't try to find a meaning in a post that just isn't there. Go back and read all of the post VERY carefully and you will notice all posts are complimentary of talent.



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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 01:47 PM »

Awesome Russell

See there ya go again, give me another reason not to post my work :>D

Hey Kev

I like the knobs…. Big Grin

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2012, 02:04 PM »

Awesome Russell

See there ya go again, give me another reason not to post my work :>D

Hey Kev

I like the knobs…. Big Grin

Dont hate me cuz ya aient me   Tongue Out

ahh - you see, I must be a knobless kinda guy  Eek!

To me though it's probably not the knobs themselves, but because the openings dictate different placements my OCDishness can't look at them.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2012, 05:25 PM »

I think I probably need a larger tip for my gun (I use a 1.7)because I have to thin it quite a bit to get it to lay down like I want.   

What gun/system are you using Ron? The finish (in photo's) looks good.
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 05:27 PM »

No worries on my end. I'll take as much critiquing as you like.  I understand about the knob placement.  I built that lower portion based on the configuration of doors that the customer wanted.  Had it been up to me there's plenty I would've changed with the piece....not my call though.  The customers love it and are happy and in the end that is what is most important to me.
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 06:34 PM »

Quote from: nydesign link=topic=20544.msg209

853#msg209853 date=1339256048
Nice, it looks really well done.
If you do something like it again I'd suggest using pocket door slides, the doors can tuck into the cabinet and not cover the bookcase when open.
The only downside is you have to give more space for the doors on the sides.

We were going to do the pocket doors initially but they opted for bifold.  That middle section is really wide (over five feet)so had they gone with the pocket doors they would have been huge.

Russ, you can use pocket door hardware on bifold doors, but it would eat up quite a bit of space inside the opening.

Great looking project as always.

Edit:  do you use "fillers" when your cabinets butt up against walls?  It looks as though the doors on the base cabinets are right up against the wall (sorry, but looking at pics on my phone so its tough to see)

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2012, 07:11 PM »

Rnt80, looks like a real quality piece. I hate when HOs have ideas. One of these days im gonna get the courage to spray my builtins. What was the reasoning behind the doors for the TV? Personally i watch to much sports to have to open the doors all the time. At that point why not put doors over shelved part too? Just doesnt seem like they bring anything aesthetically. Must have been a fun build, Eric
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2012, 07:17 PM »

Quote from: nydesign link=topic=20544.msg209

853#msg209853 date=1339256048
Nice, it looks really well done.
If you do something like it again I'd suggest using pocket door slides, the doors can tuck into the cabinet and not cover the bookcase when open.
The only downside is you have to give more space for the doors on the sides.

We were going to do the pocket doors initially but they opted for bifold.  That middle section is really wide (over five feet)so had they gone with the pocket doors they would have been huge.

Thanks Jon. I didn't think of using the pocket hardware in conjunction with the bifolds.  Considering the cost it would have added I don't think the customers would've opted for that.
I didn't use any fillers. The doors are just a hair oversized to cover the approximately 1/4" gap between the cab sides and the wall.  I had originally drawn this up with columns on the sides that would have served as fillers but they didn't like the look.








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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2012, 08:25 PM »

hey russell,  I really like this unit... nice lay out and design,  thanks for sharing... let me know next time someone does not want bead board... call me and I will change their mind for you !!!!
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