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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Member Projects => Topic started by: ColossusX on August 15, 2018, 05:40 PM

Title: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 15, 2018, 05:40 PM
Super simple sys cart using some wood from my scraps pile.  Plan on painting it Festool green and light gray. i also plan on applying some grip tape to the handles.  Only thing I purchased were the 2" casters and the bat grip tape.  More of a prototype.  My next one will have a much higher level of finish.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Dick Mahany on August 15, 2018, 06:21 PM
Simple is good and looks like it will work just fine. Having a systainer stack on wheels is way handy.  Nice job on the locking casters on one end, especially if you have any slope to your driveway.  Mine started to go down the driveway to visit the neighbors across the street before I changed a  couple of casters.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 15, 2018, 08:30 PM
I knew I definitely wanted locking casters. Have had too many things roll away. Still trying to master the level of precision needed for wood working vs rough carpentry. But I'm having more clients asking for built ins and such so I'm trying to improve.  This was a very rough attempt.  But I do love pocket screws lol
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Mario Turcot on August 15, 2018, 10:03 PM
Well done  [thumbs up]

IMO pocket screws makes strong enough & quick joinery. Keep in mind that there is a side that make it a lot stronger but not always preferable. When the sides are visible I like to use Dominos.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Michael Kellough on August 15, 2018, 10:16 PM
Good going! You can paint this any way you want of course but I just wanted to point out that the “Festool color” is dark blue-black. The bright green color in Festool’s color nomenclature is reserved for functional adjustments. Actionable items such as switches and levers.

The exact opposite of Festool policy would be to paint a wall green. Several people have done that and didn’t get arrested so feel free to paint this how you want.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Mario Turcot on August 15, 2018, 10:20 PM
Several people have done that and didn’t get arrested so feel free to paint this how you want.

 [eek] [eek] [not worthy] [eek] [eek]
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 15, 2018, 10:55 PM
I think I'm still a long way from getting a domino. Maybe as my business grows I'll be able to justify getting one.  But this cart should at least get the job done. My next one hopefully will be more refined. 

I never thought of it but yeah, my sanders are all that bkue-black. 
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Peter_C on August 16, 2018, 10:20 AM
As my friend taught me if the design worked the first time, then it is a success! Also never point out your own flaws as the chances of others noticing are not very good. Struggled with that last one for awhile.

Without doing anything more than trying to help, I hope you take this as a way to learn. I would have run a round over bit where you put your hands before assembly, or even after assembly is still possible on the side where you pull. Plus run the round over bit along every outside/inside corner possible, again in some places which would have needed to be done before assembly (Like the vertical of the box). Smoothing the sharp corners by faking them in with either a quick hand sand or using a powered sander to take the corners off past even a router bit too. Speed holes either drilled or routed in (Squares?) would lighten it up. I doubt it needs much strength at all, unless you are putting more than a few Systainer's on it.

Functional is the single most important thing, and your cart should work great as it is. In fact I see no reason to build another one, unless you want two :)
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: six-point socket II on August 16, 2018, 10:34 AM
Hi!

I like your sys-cart!

One suggestion I'd like to make is to find a way to "lock" the first Systainer to your sys-cart, so you can securely lift it over a step and/or maneuver it over curbsides.

I'd go crazy if my sys-cart wasn't locked/fixed to the stack ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 17, 2018, 12:49 AM
Again, thanks for the tips.  I was in a time crunch to finish up, meant to use a round over.  However I can disassemble the whole thing and plan on "prettying it up" this weekend. 

I've been worrying about locking in the systainers so I'm having some 3d printed clips coming soon.

Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Peter_C on August 17, 2018, 01:32 AM
If doing the 3D printed clips you might want to get rid of the "box" altogether. Simpler, and lighter weight.

I just don't understand how the clips slide to lock the Systainer in?
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 17, 2018, 10:07 AM
Once I get the clips the box will be removed.  I was planning on using some bolts and wingnuts in a groove to make them adjustable.  Right now it's all kind of trial and error to see what works
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: mike_aa on August 17, 2018, 12:28 PM
It might work better if the clip was redesigned to make it longer with the groove in it, and maybe a small ridge on the top to help lock the clip in place when the wing nut is tightened.  Unfortunately, I don't have the skill to do that.  You would only need to have two- one for each side.  The clips shown would work for the front.

Mike A.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: jobsworth on August 18, 2018, 11:56 AM
Nice work. and a very functional design.

 Im a very firm believe in the KISS system.
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: ColossusX on August 20, 2018, 03:09 PM
Still trying to keep it simple.  Rebuilt it, routed all the edges, and painted.  Systainers are still not secured to the cart, but the built up box is snug enough I can lift the whole thing briefly.  Still working on that though.  Nothing fancy, but it gets it done on the jobsite. 
Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: JZ Bowmannz on August 20, 2018, 11:24 PM
This is mine. Used for two three years, still holding together well. Plywood cut to size of systainer, 2x scrap box around, very easy to do.

Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: JZ Bowmannz on August 20, 2018, 11:28 PM
Details.

Title: Re: Simple sys-cart
Post by: Mario Turcot on August 21, 2018, 07:10 AM
@ColossusX Simple and efficient. If you do a second cart I suggest to rotate 90deg the bottom ply you have the handle. that way it would be stronger. You may also try to have a pocket like in the handle to hold saw rails.  [big grin]

@JZ Bowmannz That's a fancy cart  [wink] I like the simplicity of the systainer attachments  [thumbs up]