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Offline goforbroke442nd

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Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« on: June 11, 2012, 01:36 PM »
Am thinking about getting a desktop (i.e. hobby shop type) thickness planer.  Dust collection is almost #1 priority to me, up there with functioning correctly.  Dust collection is why I love festools.

I was wondering if any one had a similar set up to mine, with the CT going through a Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy, then to the planer.  I was wondering how the dust collection has been working out.

Anyone have it connect to a Dewalt 735 or a Makita 2012nb?  I leaning towards the Makita b/c sound level is lower...

I also know steelcity, Jet, and Delta have been recommended, so any experiences with the CT+UDD+planer combos for those would also be appreciated.

Also, any advice/experience connecting a particular model to Festool sized hoses would be much appreciated...

Thanks in advance.

-Junichi
(woodworking novice and festool newbie)

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Offline Corwin

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 02:22 PM »
I have the Makita 2012NB and its optional dust hood, and I have the original (older) Clearvue cyclone, rather than the UDD.  The dust hood's port is too large an opening for the hose, but a Festool Connector Sleeve will fit into the port so you can then plug into the Connector Sleeve.  You will want to use the larger D50 hose between planner and cyclone and also between cyclone and vacuum to better accommodate the volume of chips.  This setup works, but just barely.  Got a second extractor?

On Edit:  Keeping both hoses as short as possible will work best
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 02:29 PM by Corwin »
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Offline Tom Bellemare

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 03:05 PM »
I have a DW735 and have used it with a 50mm hose and CT 22 w/ the Long-Life bag. It filled up pretty quickly but almost all of the dust and chips went in the bag. That planer has a pretty good blower to begin with so, that's part of it. The UDD should work well with it as long as you don't over fill it.


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Offline Mauri Motti

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 03:18 PM »
I recently purchased the Jet JWP 12. It comes with a dust-port and I hook up to my CTL 26 with 36mm hose and it works like a charm.

Offline Kevin Stricker

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 09:32 PM »
You can run a DW735 and a dust deputy w/o vac and get pretty good collection.  You just have to make sure the DD is strapped down or the DW will pop the lid off.  If you do run it with a CT ( which seems to decrease collection efficiency because of the reduction in flow) you just have to remember to turn on the CT first.  Probably get better fine dust collection but will leave a lot of chips in the planer.

Offline jacko9

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 09:36 PM »
I have a 34 year old Powermatic model 100 which is a 12" planer which can be set up with a dust hood.  These machines are rock solid and can be had used for next to nothing.  Once you have it up and running you won't have any problems for decades at the least.

Jack
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Offline goforbroke442nd

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 03:08 AM »
Thank you for the posts.  They are very helpful!  Would live to hear more opinions.

How is the dust extraction for older powermatic thickness planers?  Would it be reasonable to expect something like kapex level dust collection (for any of the models with my set up?)

Is there an easy way to change the thickness scale to metric or have both?

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2012, 03:53 AM »
Dear Junichi

I would not expect too much of a CT36 connected to a planer/thicknesser. The CTs are high vacuum and relatively low volume extractors are are perfect for every bit of Festool kit that I know of but...you need high volume extraction for a planer. I have a Numatic but any high volume extractor should do and mine goes through the brilliant Cyclone Central 100mm cyclone. The amount of dust and chips that I get during normal planing would swamp a DD. I fill a large dustbin almost every day when I am planing. The DD drop box will fill in about 5 minutes of continuous planing.

I would do a bit more research and take some more advice before you make your final plan.

Peter
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 07:28 AM by Stone Message »

Offline fatroman

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 06:18 AM »
You'd likely want something with more capacity than a UDD.

These cyclone lids that go over a standard trash can might be of more use. They do say not to use them with equipment that has a built in impeller (like the DW, not sure about the Makita), but I've read about people using that setup anyway.

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Offline goforbroke442nd

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Re: Any experience w/ thickness planners and CT36 w/UDD?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 12:06 PM »
FYI, I went into my local Sears to get a pair of ratchet wrenches replaced (for free).  On the way out, I saw the Dewalt 735 on sale for $325+tax.  I made sure the price applied to the boxed and sealed one, and not just the display model. 

I'm still not sure this is the planer I want to go with, given the noise and the weak blades.  It looks like I'll also need to shell out to get the in/outfeed tables, vac attachment, and possibly the table, which makes this feel like buying a festool (maybe I should paint it green & white?).  But at that price, I figured I could always return it or try to sell it on craigslist.

I was looking at the ridgid TP1300 since it comes with stand, vac, and outfeed tables.  I've read more review about ridgid r4330, but anyone have ideas about the TP1300 regarding cutting and dust vs the Makita or Dewalt?