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Offline patriot

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Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« on: December 19, 2017, 06:20 PM »
I'm trying to get out of having to purchase a bigger bandsaw to cut some logs that I have.  As is, the 710 has a cutting height of approx. 8-inches which is not enough.

If anyone knows of a source for the 2-inch riser that fits this bandsaw I would like to hear about it.  I have read that the riser for this machine is 2-inches, but I could be wrong.  I hope it is greater than that.

Any and all comments are most welcome.

Thanks!
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Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 07:04 PM »
It's not a complicated part.  You can make one out of a stack of 1/2" aluminum.   I've owned about a dozen INCA machines over the years.  I like them, they are fun and accurate, but there's very little parts support. You can call Eagle Tools but I don't expect they'd have anything as exotic as the riser block in stock.

You could also do something like this: 



« Last Edit: December 19, 2017, 07:15 PM by lwoirhaye »

Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 08:01 PM »
It's not a complicated part.  You can make one out of a stack of 1/2" aluminum.   I've owned about a dozen INCA machines over the years.  I like them, they are fun and accurate, but there's very little parts support. You can call Eagle Tools but I don't expect they'd have anything as exotic as the riser block in stock.

You could also do something like this: 

Thank you for the info.  The video was great.  I have never seen a "saw" like the gentelman in the video was using.  Rigging that up may be a lot easier than hooking up my 20-inch Sthil, but I'm not sure about that.  The kerf on the circular saw may be less than my chainsaw so that would be a plus.

I did not even think about making my own riser block.  I can do that well enough.  Great idea. 

Thank you for a very informative - and eye-opening, post. 

Now I have plenty to keep me up tonight.  Ha!
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Offline mwildt

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 09:26 PM »
Try the yahoo inca forum. Might be some one with one, who knows.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2017, 09:37 PM by mwildt »

Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 10:13 PM »
Try the yahoo inca forum. Might be some one with one, who knows.

Thanks for the heads-up.  I used to think that INCA bandsaw user's were not too common, but I may find out different.  I will indeed check out the Yahoo inca forum.

Thanks again for your help.
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Offline GaryLaroff

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 01:51 AM »
I have an Inca 710 as well as the 10 inch bandsaw and suggest you contact the INCA forum by sending an email to:
incawoodworking@yahoogroups.com
If there is a riser block available, one of them will have it.  Doebeli in Zurich, Switzerland has the full stock of Inca parts and will sell it to you.  But, I would contact Jesse Barragan at Eagle Tools [jesse@Eagle-tools.com] in Los Angeles as he always seems to know the best solution to Inca problems.

If you install the riser block you will need longer blades and it would be convenient if you have a local supply of custom blades like we do here in Portland, Oregon.

Gary Laroff

Offline Vondawg

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 06:44 AM »
Yep Gary beat me to it...Jesse is the one you need to contact. I too have a 710 and love it for smaller work, but use a 14” for larger stuff
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Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 02:29 PM »
I have an Inca 710 as well as the 10 inch bandsaw and suggest you contact the INCA forum by sending an email to:
incawoodworking@yahoogroups.com
If there is a riser block available, one of them will have it.  Doebeli in Zurich, Switzerland has the full stock of Inca parts and will sell it to you.  But, I would contact Jesse Barragan at Eagle Tools [jesse@Eagle-tools.com] in Los Angeles as he always seems to know the best solution to Inca problems.

If you install the riser block you will need longer blades and it would be convenient if you have a local supply of custom blades like we do here in Portland, Oregon.

Gary Laroff

Gary,

Thanks for your in-depth post.

Yesterday I did take a look at the Yahoo INCA forum, but found that I had to join.  My original Yahoo account name was not recognized so I will have to update/change it if I want to join.  I will do that today.

Odd that you should mention Jesse from Eagle tools because he helped me in the past.  I think I was concerned about stiffer (thicker) blades stressing/breaking on the 710 smallish wheels.  I will contact him and see if has a 710 riser for sale.

Lastly, if possible, I would like to have a link to your BS blade vendor in Portland.  I understand that there is a great BS fabricator in FL, but he does not respond to emails.  I tried and never received a response.

I sincerely appreciate your help.

P.S.  If you have a moment, here is a link to my (unfinished) INCA 710 webpage.
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Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 02:59 PM »
Yep Gary beat me to it...Jesse is the one you need to contact. I too have a 710 and love it for smaller work, but use a 14” for larger stuff

Thanks for your post. 

I will contact Jesse in hopes that he may have a riser or know of a source.  I am thinking of installing a 3-HP motor on my 710 and will probably seek his advice on this.

I sincerely appreciate your help.
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Offline mwildt

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 03:04 PM »
On your web site. Might want to fix the origin of the saw. It's Swiss not Swedish, no offense.

Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 03:30 PM »
On your web site. Might want to fix the origin of the saw. It's Swiss not Swedish, no offense.

LOL!  Great catch.  My "Operating Manual" notes that the manufacturer is French, but I am sure you are correct.  I recall reading that these saws were made in different countries.

I will make that change to my website.

Thanks for the heads up.

P.S.  Change is done.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2017, 03:34 PM by patriot »
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Offline Rip Van Winkle

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 05:08 PM »
On your web site. Might want to fix the origin of the saw. It's Swiss not Swedish, no offense.

LOL!  Great catch.  My "Operating Manual" notes that the manufacturer is French, but I am sure you are correct.  I recall reading that these saws were made in different countries.

I will make that change to my website.

Thanks for the heads up.

P.S.  Change is done.
On your web site. Might want to fix the origin of the saw. It's Swiss not Swedish, no offense.

The Inca brand was originally Swiss, and manufactured by a manufacturer that specialized in INjection Cast Aluminum, and other alloys, hence the brand name INCA. The Inca brand was also used for other items like scales, and other kitchen gadgets. I’ve also seen old Swiss Elna sewing machines with the Inca trademark cast into the frame, so they may have made parts for a number of other companies as well.

Later, maybe in the 90s, the Inca tool brand was sold to a French company and production was switched to France. The French made Inca tools I’ve seen are usually painted blue, instead of the green used on the original Swiss made machines, although some of the tablesaws were also printed black do I don’t know how specific the colors were.

The same French company that purchased Inca may also be the company that purchased Multico, the British manufacturer known for the manufacture of chisel mortisers, or at least both brands now seem to be under the same ownership. At least two of the Inca bandsaw models still seem to be manufactured and sold in France, as well as many of the Mortiser models, although I think many of the other models and tools may have been dropped from production.

Doebeli in Switzerland has already been mentioned as a source for parts. I believe I’ve read that they won’t ship outside Switzerland, so you might have to arrange for a third party shipper to pick up and ship the part, or recieve the part for shipping.

 http://www.doebeli.ch/index.asp?page=produkte-inca-maschinen

Alternately you could try contacting Multico Sarl the current brand owner.

https://incamachines.com/english/sales/guest/form/

Multico SARL.
15 Rue des Alouettes
St. Rémy
71100
France
03 85 48 09 01
00 33 385 48 09 01 (International)

Multico Sarl/Inca also seems to have an Ebay store. Last I checked neither the Enay store or website had the riser block listed but it probably wouldn’t hurt to contact them. I believe Multico may ship international.

https://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&sid=multicoinca&isRefine=true&_pgn=1&_mwBanner=1

Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 06:07 PM »
@Rip Van Winkle

Thank you for the INCA history. 

I purchased my 710 from Garret-Wade in '98 and not too many years after that they stopped offering any of the INCA machines.  A lot of owner's were worried about parts availability, but for some reason that never worried me.  I did have to purchase a new bearing blade holder because I overtightened and broke it.  Other than that, my machine has worked flawlessly for the past 19 or so years.

I appreciate the information you provided.
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Offline GaryLaroff

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 11:35 PM »
Patriot,
I don't know where you are located as the Land of Enchantment could be Ireland or Oregon.  We have a number of shops that both sharpen circular saw blades and make up bandsaw blades to any length.  They also bore out super-thin Freud circular saw blades for use on the Inca 2200 12-inch cabinet saw.  When I have visited any of them in the last 25 years, there were usually two people cutting and welding blades full time.  I doubt any of these have web sites but I will check tomorrow and update via this thread.

A larger concern, Palm Abrasives, was setting up to make blades from the entire stock of Starrett blade stock which I am told makes for good blades.  I would suggest you hit the web or local yellow pages and look for "saw blades" or abrasives or even contact Starrett in Massachusetts and ask them if there is someone local to you who stocks the huge rolls of Starrett bandsaw blades.

I decided years ago that for my typical bandsaw work and for furniture making in hardwoods roughly 3/8 to 1 inch in thickness that the ideal blade would seem to be 3/8 inches wide with 6 tpi.  No such blade was commercially available so I assumed I was wrong.  Then I had a bunch of them made up for around $10 each around 2006 and I have been using this configuration ever since.

Clearly the land of enchantment is one where you can break your last blade at night or early in the morning, phone the local dealer in the morning and pick up your new custom length blades after lunch time for less than retail.  Could you also be a Portland resident?

Gary Laroff

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 08:50 AM »
@GaryLaroff
New Mexico is the "Land of Enchantment" in the USA.

Offline patriot

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Re: Need a riser block for an INCA 710 bandsaw
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2017, 11:08 AM »
@GaryLaroff
New Mexico is the "Land of Enchantment" in the USA.

Amen!  LOL!

We live in Las Cruces, which is about 50 miles or so from El Paso.

Weather report:  Balmy and overcast, currently 51 degrees.  Ah, how sweet it is.

(Especially when considering the weather in Chicago where we moved from a few years ago.)
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