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Offline festivus

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2014, 07:55 AM »
Don't do it! Tormek is still very handy for grinding a primary bevel. Albeit an expensive way!

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2014, 08:49 AM »
Don't do it! Tormek is still very handy for grinding a primary bevel. Albeit an expensive way!

I take your point but how often will that need to happen? Once sharp the tools only need a quick visit to the lapping station - job done.

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2014, 09:30 AM »
I think it depends on how you use your tools. I'm obviously a little less careful and will often ding the edge and need to regrind. Plus you'll still need to grind back your honing at some stage. You can do that on the lapping plate buy fairly slowly. I also sometimes will change my primary bevel angle. Even the Tormek can be slow on that!

Also I know if I ever sell something, I'll definitely need it shortly afterwards!

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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2014, 10:34 AM »
Thanks for the video.  I recently acquired one of the Veritas guides myself... nice to see how somebody else uses it (the right way).   :)

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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2014, 10:52 AM »
Thanks for the video.  I recently acquired one of the Veritas guides myself... nice to see how somebody else uses it (the right way).   :)

It is an excellent piece of kit. We can get quite a bit of the Lee Valley equipment here in the UK but I often find myself wishing that I was back in Canada again. I have 3 of the planes and they are superb. If I have had a tough day in the workshop I sometimes just take out the low angle jack and do a random shave or two just to cheer myself up.

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2014, 09:00 PM »
I don't know? But my Tormeck sharpens my 6" jointer blades, my 7" William and Hussey straight blades, my friends 13" Rockwell blades, my finger nail gouges to a scary sharpness. Problem is if I buy the drill bit attachment I'll have over $2000.00 into it and it is still slow but results are very,very good. Guess you need both. MARK
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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2014, 02:53 AM »
Received my Veritas MkII yesterday. Just missing the really fine paper as Axminster is out.

But I've got to say, it's as easy as Peter displays in the video to setup and sharpen. Well that's a bit of a lie, took a bit longer on some tools as I first had to reset an angle on the stone. But the Veritas saved me a lot of time by being so accurate and the length of the roller really helped.

One thing I did with the Axminster paper, as it's sticky, is peel back an 1" and stick that down. Then used the roller on the guide to make sure it had no air bubbles as I peeled the rest back.
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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2014, 01:28 AM »
I recently took a course on plane sharpening with a local Woodworkers Guild I belong to.
The instructor sourced stone/granite counter top pieces and adhesive backed sandpaper through 600 grit (2 3/4" wide rolls, very convenient). After flattening the toe/heel/mouth of the plane sole, then cleaning up the frog to sole contact areas, we worked through ~1500 grit paper (above 600 on a flattened granite plate).

I too had that $15 (on sale price of $10) little jig you opened with. I confirmed that it indeed is not square along the straight side of the clamp (with the roller). I ended up with a skew edged plane iron -- one person in our seminar had he original Lee and another the version you demonstrated. Both look very useful -- and are money well spent over the $10 rolling junker.

Sometimes you have to spend enough money. [crying]

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2014, 02:03 AM »
I received my  veritas honing guide two weeks ago and all I can say is wow it's quick and just with a diamond stone I got the sharpest chisels and planes I everhad

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2014, 02:29 AM »
The Veritas honing guide really is worth the money - anything that helps to protect your investment (in chisels and planes), helps save your time, produces stunning results and is a pleasure to use must be worth it.

Peter

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2014, 05:17 AM »
Hello Peter - excellent videos.

Some time ago I bought a knife sharpening tool and the manufacturers recommendation for the "lubricant" was that it was not there to lubricate but to wash away the debris and it was important, especially on oilstones, to use something that would not dry out and clog the abrasive.

Their recommendation was a mixture of kerosene and neatsfoot oil in a ratio of 1 to 2. I have been using this mixture in my sharpening and it works extremely well. It will even restore old clogged up stones to like new.

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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2014, 06:16 AM »
Now that is a great tip - as long as you can find that oil.

Peter

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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2014, 06:22 AM »
The oil is commonly used on leather goods such as saddles and bridles as a softer. Should be readily available at any store that supplies the horse trade.

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« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2014, 10:41 AM »
The drill attachment for the Tormek is a must have IMHO.

There's a vast difference between drill sharp and Tormek
drill sharp.  [wink]
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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2014, 11:24 AM »
I have a Tormek with almost every attachment and extra. I keep forgetting to put it on ebay as I have not touched it since starting the lapping method. Anyone in the UK interested send me a PM !

Peter

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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2014, 01:20 AM »
Thanks again, Peter. I was thinking I was the only person that learned to lap and used a micro bevel on the backside of my tools. I was taught back in the late 70's by an art teacher at college. He also taught me Euro casework and design. He was a wonder person. Brent

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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2014, 01:35 AM »
Thanks again, Peter. I was thinking I was the only person that learned to lap and used a micro bevel on the backside of my tools. I was taught back in the late 70's by an art teacher at college. He also taught me Euro casework and design. He was a wonder person. Brent

I think I may have mentioned it in the film, my late brother (he was still with us when I made the film) encouraged me to do it a long time ago but I was let down by a rubbish honing guide. The Veritas one has changed all that.

Peter

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2014, 02:42 PM »
Thx for the good review/advice/discussion. Sharpening was an area where I was a novice at best. Now I am also lighter in my wallet....

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2014, 02:49 PM »
Do not worry, Fartyslaterbas, you know it makes sense.

Peter

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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2014, 02:52 PM »
Do not worry, Fartyslaterbas, you know it makes sense.

Peter

Lol.   [big grin]

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« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2014, 03:14 PM »
Do not worry, Fartyslaterbas, you know it makes sense.

Peter

Lol.   [big grin]

Oops...next time I will do a cut and paste - I am doing this to help keep Peter H's spirits up !

Peter

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« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2014, 03:50 PM »
Good one, although this one does not show up in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe. Don't forget your towel.....

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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2014, 04:45 PM »
Good one, although this one does not show up in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe. Don't forget your towel.....
I have every episode on CD - I have my towel, The Book and I remember the Ford Prefect before Douglas got his hands on it.

Anyway, this is for Peter H - many thanks Barfyslackass. Slartibartfass Slartibartfast won an award for Norway.

Peter

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« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2014, 04:48 PM »
I know about the "t"at the end. Unfortunately when I first started using the name online a long time ago the first time registering the correct version was already taken. So I changed it to "fass" at the end which is a wordplay in German for (beer) barrel.....

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2014, 09:16 PM »
Mr. Parfitt:

Thanks to you, I was at our local FleetFarm this weekend (a farm/hunting/tool store) and picked up a small container of pure Neetsfoot oil to use for sharpening. Now I need to get the honing guide.

I think this is the smallest amount of money that you and your posts have ever cost me!

 [big grin]

Trying to be one of the most helpful members on the FOG.

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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2014, 01:17 AM »
I know about the "t"at the end. Unfortunately when I first started using the name online a long time ago the first time registering the correct version was already taken. So I changed it to "fass" at the end which is a wordplay in German for (beer) barrel.....
Please forgive me for making fun of the name - I thought that it looked odd and must confess that I had to check whether it really was an "s" or a "t" at the end. So beer barrel it is then.

Cheers.

Peter

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« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2014, 01:23 AM »
Mr. Parfitt:

Thanks to you, I was at our local FleetFarm this weekend (a farm/hunting/tool store) and picked up a small container of pure Neetsfoot oil to use for sharpening. Now I need to get the honing guide.

I think this is the smallest amount of money that you and your posts have ever cost me!

 [big grin]

...they always shoot the messenger !

If it helps to prepare you, the kit in the video that I am working on now will cost you about £500 but the video that follows will only cost you £15 and some workshop scrap.

Maybe there should be a hardship fund for Festool addicts.

Peter

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Re: Razor Sharp Tools - Lapping Technique Videos
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2014, 03:56 PM »
Peter, no offense taken. Actually found it quite hilarious. As always the answer to all you questions is 42.

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« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2014, 04:14 PM »
Peter, no offense taken. Actually found it quite hilarious. As always the answer to all you questions is 42.
It was a bit of fun. I am very impressed with you sign off line or whatever it is called - the links really work. Excellent. If you ever come to England we must get together for a beer - and discuss lapping techniques of course.

Peter

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« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2014, 04:18 PM »
Next time I'm in London I'll let you know. Been to the UK already twice this year on business. Thought about the signature line discussion and thought to do something useful. Dusted off my old HTML coding skills. At JFK on my way to Munich (Octoberfest). Malte