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« on: December 04, 2011, 01:32 PM »

Review of the Little Giant Revolution XE type 1A (300 lbs) model 22. It weights 38 lbs (four pounds lighter than the Classic the model 17 has a greater weight delta). Storage height 5’ 7”, min A frame 5’, max A frame 9’, min extension 11’, max extension 19’. I purchased the ladder last July and too the following pictures then. I have been using this ladder for the last 6 months can now provide more then the “gee wiz” it’s new, I love it review.

Let me just start with this… I HATE LADDERS THAT MOVE, BOUNCE AND ARE WOOD! Growing up on the farm in Iowa using ladders to go up 40 feet to shingle the barn that were wood and if the wind blew or sparrow landed on it, it would bounce like a bronco, might be why….but I will leave that to a therapist.

First off, got to say, yup these ladders are heavy and that is part of why I love them and hate them. I have light weight ladder that I use a lot when just a 2 or 3 step is all I need. If I need to lift or bring down heavy stuff or get to vaulted ceiling or just have a ladder that will do it all, The LG is the best thing I have found.

When my first LG was delivered by UPS I was home. Never before had the UPS truck backed into the drive and the UPS guy did not turn down my offer to help with the box. OH…my what have I gotten into, I thought to myself. The reality is the box was harder to handle than the ladder itself.  

Packaging of the accessories was better than the packing of the ladder. One end of the box was almost fully open and there were two plastic things that looked like they would have been attached to the ladder somewhere that where at the bottom of the box. The up side is the ladder is built like the preverbal brick Sh** House and you could set off a Claymore next this ladder and it would not move or be hurt.

From the start and now with 6 months of use the LG was a rock and still is a rock! No wonder they call the locks “rock locks”. It shows no wear! It is just as tight when it locks as it was day one.

Any of the crew that has used it is blown away by how secure they are using it. Clients and neighbors that I have let use it are amazed at how stable it is. It is quick to adjust and use. Two home owners I know asked to put their old ladders in the dumpster as they had ordered their own LG.

The built in wheels make it easy to get to and from the site. The ability to get close to the wall by using the 90 degree setting is sooo… helpful  I can’t count the number of times I have had to turn a ladder sideways to the wall to get close and then you have to twist your body to get pressure on what you are working.  Or worse you don’t have the room to turn it sideways and you end up reaching way too far and not getting the job done as you like because you can’t reach it with the control you need to do the fine work.

I have to say the Brackets needed to make two "A" frame ladders, I'm not happy with as they don't store on the ladder...I have not forgotten them but some day I will forget to bring them or leave them somewhere and be ticked off. That could also hold true for any accessory.

The LG with the leg leveler and the stair setting are one of those….head slap moments…. Just like the first Festool product you bought… you say to yourself Why didn’t I do this sooner.

Hey it is just a ladder like the Kapex is just a chopsaw… Buy the best and you will not have to buy it again.

I can recommend the LG system to anyone that needs a ladder.

Cheers,
Steve

Okay not sure what went wrong... wanted to add the following below the images....

1.   How it came. The UPS guy didn’t say no to help carrying it from the truck.
2.   Ordered the 3 pk accessories
3.   It is the Type 1A (300 lbs) Revolution XE. It weights 38 lbs (four pounds lighter than the Classic). Storage height 5’ 7”, min A frame 5’, max A frame 9’, min extension 11’, max extension 19’.
4.   Fresh out of the box.
5.   Wide steps 1.5” are very comfortable and give a very stable platform. As most good ladders the top of the step is flattened for comfort. When not fully extended, the double steps Make a 3.5” are very good.
6.   The heart of the system, the rock lock. From users and retailers, the hinge and the lock are why LG beats all others as the hinges and locks are fit better and hold up much better than the knock off brands. Retailer said he had to carry the other brand for the “price point” and for the average homeowner the others were fine. But for the pro or the guy that does a lot around the house and want it last a lifetime…LG is the only way to go.
7.   Controls are fast, easy and comfortable to use.
8.   As you can see the pins are beefy.
9.   In 2 seconds you are closer to the wall, without having to turn the ladder sideways.
10.   These are the brackets to make the second “A” frame ladder. Note that the other ladder won’t fold. At site were the non extended A frame is all you need. You can put the two side by side and work wider. Also a second crew person can have a ladder to work off of. Remember if weight of the ladder is an issue and you know you won’t extend the ladder, you can take out the second legs.
11.   Yea…even with the Rev XE being lighter, the wheels are a welcome feature to get it to the site and to move it around when on the site. Wheels won’t harm wood floors and are quite (if that matters to you).
12.   Ready to roll.
13.   I wouldn’t say it is a down side but the leg leveler won’t work on the side that has the wheels. What you do need to make sure is if you are working in a place that will need the Leg Leveler, you need to position your ladder properly.
14.     None
15.    The Leg Leveler ends are made to give more contact with the floor so you have to use the correct end of the foot. Just flip the leg over to work for the left or right side. One crew member found this a pain…but when it was pointed out that it didn’t dent the floor like his rounded end ladder…he agreed it was good.
16.   I also ordered the Cargo Hold….. if they had only showed something in it to show size, not sure if would ordered it and most likely would have gone with the LG Project Tray. What I like about the Cargo Hold is I can load it on the ground and take it up the ladder. Also if I move the ladder I don’t have to take it off the ladder and things (well most things) won’t fall out.  I think both have their place and should have bought both.
17.   The Cargo Hold will fit between the top rungs of the “A” frame. This shows size.
18.   It is deep enough to hold hand tools, maybe not the “Big” drill but power screw drivers, etc. it is good.
19.   It can also be placed on just one rung but you would only want put smaller tools in it. You would also need to be cautious if you move the ladder with attached to just one rung. As you can see there is a divider that helps keep thing organized and the loops on the side keep screwdrivers and small stuff in place.
20.   On the side is hammer loop and a pocket on the other.  The hammer loop is not accessible when you have the Cargo Hold between the top rungs.
21.   The Work Platform is great if you going to be standing for a long time, or you are going to be holding/lifting something heavy. When I had to take install a very heavy chandelier the platform make a much better platform to work on to get it positioned.
22.   None
23.   These pieces of metal are to make the platform backward compatible to some older ladders. I’m tempted to just cut them off, but if I do I know I will come across an old LG ladder for sale that need these things.  The good thing is they don’t swing free so they stay out of the way and don’t get in your way.
24.   The LG 22 at min A frame extension 5’.
25.   The LG 22 at max A frame 9’.
26.   The LG 22 at min extension 11’.
27.   The LG 22 at max extension 19’.







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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 01:56 PM »

thank you for your review it has helped me out!


I have been looking at the LG Revolution XE but wondered how the new Rock lock would work in trestle mode (A frame) how they would attach.  You answered that question! With them brackets! I think they will kinda annoy me as its something I would also probably forget at some point.

I also been looking at the LG ladder pro  which are in black.   Them ones lock together with no brackets and so I was thinking are the Revolution XE better with this new rock lock and you have answered my second question and from your review I have decided the pro are the better  I think or am I wrong?  Well at least you don't need to carry them bracket around.


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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 02:00 PM »

I don't know which model I have, but it's under 4' collapsed so it fits in my van quite nicely (vertically).
Meaning I keep it in my truck full time and have something that's quite versatile for all the random times.

Anything above 4' I probably wouldn't keep in my truck. Otherwise it's versatility easily makes up for it's heaviness.

Nice review. I can't decide if I'd like the wheels or not
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 02:08 PM »

I don't know which model I have, but it's under 4' collapsed so it fits in my van quite nicely (vertically).
Meaning I keep it in my truck full time and have something that's quite versatile for all the random times.

Anything above 4' I probably wouldn't keep in my truck. Otherwise it's versatility easily makes up for it's heaviness.

Nice review. I can't decide if I'd like the wheels or not


I also was not sure about the wheels...but lugging...err... moving this around... love them! They have yet to get in the way. You just need to be smart about putting the ladder in a tight space that need the leveling leg. ... so far so good for me.

Cheers,
Steve
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 02:18 PM »

thank you for your review it has helped me out!


I have been looking at the LG Revolution XE but wondered how the new Rock lock would work in trestle mode (A frame) how they would attach.  You answered that question! With them brackets! I think they will kinda annoy me as its something I would also probably forget at some point.

I also been looking at the LG ladder pro  which are in black.   Them ones lock together with no brackets and so I was thinking are the Revolution XE better with this new rock lock and you have answered my second question and from your review I have decided the pro are the better  I think or am I wrong?  Well at least you don't need to carry them bracket around.


Jmb

Jmb,

I'm glad the reviewed helped. The forgetting at some point is my issue also. The Balled bungee cord is a start but.... Well one of the reasons I love Festool is that they come in systainer and that means everything goes to it's home and I forget/lose fewer things....  Big Grin

When I bought this ladder that I reviewed. The LG site when through a rebuild and even the people taking the orders didn't know what was on the newer site. I do remember seeing the pro...but that is now six months back... and at that time I could not get it or any info about it.

I have to say... as much as I hate the 400 jig getting canceled.... a company that puts out a a product like the pro but hasn't really thought it out...is more of pain.  Not to say the Pro is good. but here in the US it is hard to get to the site that shows the Pro!!!

Let me close with this.. LG is a great product that you will use for years and will pay you back as a product that will last for years.

Cheers,
Steve
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 03:08 PM »

thank you for your review it has helped me out!


I have been looking at the LG Revolution XE but wondered how the new Rock lock would work in trestle mode (A frame) how they would attach.  You answered that question! With them brackets! I think they will kinda annoy me as its something I would also probably forget at some point.

I also been looking at the LG ladder pro  which are in black.   Them ones lock together with no brackets and so I was thinking are the Revolution XE better with this new rock lock and you have answered my second question and from your review I have decided the pro are the better  I think or am I wrong?  Well at least you don't need to carry them bracket around.


Jmb


Jmb,

I'm glad the reviewed helped. The forgetting at some point is my issue also. The Balled bungee cord is a start but.... Well one of the reasons I love Festool is that they come in systainer and that means everything goes to it's home and I forget/lose fewer things....  Big Grin

When I bought this ladder that I reviewed. The LG site when through a rebuild and even the people taking the orders didn't know what was on the newer site. I do remember seeing the pro...but that is now six months back... and at that time I could not get it or any info about it.

I have to say... as much as I hate the 400 jig getting canceled.... a company that puts out a a product like the pro but hasn't really thought it out...is more of pain.  Not to say the Pro is good. but here in the US it is hard to get to the site that shows the Pro!!!

Let me close with this.. LG is a great product that you will use for years and will pay you back as a product that will last for years.

Cheers,
Steve


Cheers!  I think I'll be getting the PRO version.   I can't really find the revolution XE in the  UK any way don't know if it's available in the UK

I'm getting the LG pro from here link
Seems to be the cheapest place I could find the ladders in the UK

Der is a nice video at the bottom of the website to watch

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 03:48 PM »

Isn't 300 lbs a little heavy for a ladder?
 
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 03:50 PM »

Isn't 300 lbs a little heavy for a ladder?
 


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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 03:54 PM »

Steve R forgot to mention about your tape!  I wouldnt be able to work with you with that tape!  It has no Metric on it!!!  Scared Scared








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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 03:56 PM »

i want a metric only tape
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 03:59 PM »

i want a metric only tape

I have a metric only tape!  Pain in the arse you need both!

Some people say things in imperial and im like DAM IT can you say it in metric please so they have to get the their tape measure to see what it reads in metric so I dont bother with my metric only tape any more.

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 04:05 PM »

Isn't 300 lbs a little heavy for a ladder?
 


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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 04:14 PM »

Steve R forgot to mention about your tape!  I wouldnt be able to work with you with that tape!  It has no Metric on it!!!  Scared Scared
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The tape is for the American market

Check out http://www.fastcap.com/estore/pc/ProCarpenter-3p112.htm

All the tapes have a surface you can write on and built in pencil sharpener.

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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 04:19 PM »

Isn't 300 lbs a little heavy for a ladder?
 


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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 05:04 PM »

Isn't 300 lbs a little heavy for a ladder?
 


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Oh it was a Sarcasm joke...... yeah funny couldnt stop laughing mate.

Just thought it was about quality not quantity and to me that aint quality im afraid.   Hence why I said Now da is just a post count
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 05:56 PM »


I have a metric only tape!  Pain in the arse you need both!


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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 06:20 PM »

i guess it depend who you working with as some of the guys still use imperial. It get annoying at times as they tend to use both and even at the same time asking for a bit of board 4ft by 560mm
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 06:23 PM »


I have a metric only tape!  Pain in the arse you need both!


No you don't.  Tongue Out

You do in the UK.  

Like Dean said!  


Dean im bad for that!  I use both I use to hate imperial but working with few people I started to use it my self but I still much prefer metric.
 

I now just pick the one which is the closest so some times ill say it in inches or feet  or in mm depends which is the easier number to remember on the tape.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 07:24 PM »

Great review Steve!

When I first glanced at the title I thought maybe it was a portable stand for the monster new Domino XL. Eek!
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 03:38 PM »

I've had one for 15 years and would not part with it.  I agree with everything you have said.  Few comments:
1.  It is heavy
2.  Wheels would aid in moving it.  Mine did not come with wheels, I bought some, but they are still in the box.
3.  I forget what length mine is.  At the time it was the intermediate as I was in a one-story home and  was considering going to a 2-story which I did.   Would I have bought a longer one now?  ---  No --- way to heavy. 
4.  My home has a 20' high great room.  The ceiling fan need replacement.  The electricians carried  in  a Little Giant (2 to carry, 3 to setup).  This thing would have been useless by myself because of weight
5.  They are no good for trimming trees.  The sprawled legs on both ends have their purpose, and it is not to be narrow to shove up into trees.
6.  These ladders can't be left at a jobsite unattended even while you slip away to grab lunch.  They grow legs and "run away" -- theft

These ladders are the Festool's of ladders
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