A quick look at the Autonet/Abranet links shows more grits available for the Abranet.

John

Well I couldnt hold off. I now own a ceros 150  

Just had time to play with some boards in the garage that were stained and 3 coated with oil poly.

At first I thought something was wrong with mine because it kept shutting off under load?  still dont know why. It did it about 3 times then went away.

When it went away I could see just how awesome a sander the ceros really is! Holy cow! It can rough with the Rotex! And the way it feels in your hand is suberb! I could actually grasp it by the on/off button and control it with my thumb actuating the paddle. Very cool!

Yeah i was going to keep my rotex 150 but  now I have doubts. Sorry about this, but it could actually replace it. I will always be loyal to festool as they are great tools but my tingling wrists are saying, sell the rotex please!

I think the paper has alot to do with it. The abranet is awesome and the HD is rediculously awesome for levelling. I will have to wait until I get the Ceros on some floors before I make my call but man, The ceros and the s-paper are tought to beat.
I have never been a fan of any of the festool s-papers. Im sorry but I use top quality 3m and norton on my floor sanders and that paper rocks! So its tough for me to settle for any regular s-paper. I love the granat but cant get it locally as its back ordered in 150.

The pad is soooo flat and thin on the Ceros its def. going to take some learning. I feel like I have to tip the machine in order to get it to conform to the woods natural dips and dives. Think a softer pad will take care of that!

Initial opinion is this thing kills all other Ros's! Glad Mirka came out with this. It'll keep Festool on their feet and we all will reap the benfits of this competitiveness!!!

Ill get some pics and maybe a vid up soon!
Hey I was wondering if anyone uses theirs off of their auto start plug on their vacuums? Im thinking this might be why the sander kept shutting off? Wondering if its ok to plug the transformer into the auto start plug of the DC?

Ok I just played with it for a significant time.

It DOES work through the ct26 auto start outlet without any problems.

I like the softer pads so they conform to not-so-flat floorboards.

Through Mirka they have 4 pads so far.    5"    standard and soft     and 6" with standard and soft.


Plus you can use any 5/16th threaded ROS pad which includes the 3m lineup of pads.  They really wanted to make this thing compatable with other sand paper and pads. I think this is one of the strongest feature of the sander.
you can use 5 or 6" pads and any hole pattern paper!!! What more could you want?   

Are you talking about the hook-and-loop interface pad that goes between the stock pad and sanding disc, or a replacement pad?

I have seen 4 backup pads. Meaning 2 replacement pads and 2 pads that are softer for contours.

Im going to do a little sample board review of the abranet and abranet HD. I think the scratch pattern on the HD (despite the grit rating) will be much more pronounced then the grit would suggest.
I want to do the test because I plan on ordering some and I need to know what these screens will look like with stain on them. Our stain methods are famous for easily revealing any scratch pattern. Where I normally would use a 3m 80 or 100 grit, im thinking in the abranet HD I might need 100 120.

Ill post pics asap.

Ok heres an update.
I had to sand a small kitchen today with alot of edger work. I Usually go around after I 80 with the edger and remove the swirl marks with my orbital.

So this thing had a killer workout today.

I have the 6" and it more then takes care of the swirls. Most ros's struggle but not this thing. It eats them up!
But I found myself struggling alittle to hold it one handed so I came up with a 2 handed grip. It is a tough learning curve as its so low and theres nothing to hold on to!
Good thing is the power is there. More so then in any other ROS IMO. But harnessing the power is going to take additional $$$.
The abranet is rediculously awesome but it kept flying off when the backing started to get warn out a little. I hope it didnt eat my pad already.
Im ordering the protectors and the soft pad.
I cant believe how powerful this thing is! Its like a mini edger! AWESOME!!!

I think getting it customized to ones task is very important. Its a good thing its so compatible.The stock pad is so flat that I have to lean it to get the lowspots of the flooring. Im in need of a softer pad or a 1/4" thick interface pad or something.
Also the vibration was pretty pronounced with the stiff pad. I actually had to slow it down one to stop the vibration.

The whole     Pad getting eaten thing has put a hamper on the stain sample arrant review. 

No doubt it is the abranet that killed it. After a couple 100g abranet disks flew of about 2 min. After putting them on, I switched to norton made festool holed 100g and had no problems.

The pad still works it just doesn't hold the abranets very well.
Kind of looks like the, for lack of a better word, hairs on the back of the abranet disk get pulled out a little causing the failure.

I already ordered a couple of backup pads and protectors..

I have a 6 inch Mirka CEROS.. The dust extraction is excellent.. The abranet disks I  have used do not clog up or over heat
The only issue I have had is the with auto start on the Festool vacuums  ...if you put the sander on the lowest speed and put very little load on the sander the vacuum shuts off. So if I am doing light sanding I put the vacuum in MAN mode and that solves the problem

I bought a couple of Mirka pad protectors to use autonet on my festools and bought a big box of Abranet HD 60 grit. That stuff is awesome. Hard pad and hard sanding discs should make flattening very easy. That and the rotex will be a pretty mean combo until I get the Ceros.

I dont think bearing down hard with auto/abranet is a good idea, it seems to take take off plenty of wood with only moderate pressure and it helps keep the pad hooks in better condition. The pad protectors are a very worthwhile addition for pad lifespan. Apparently not having a pad brake keeps sworls to a minimum from tests I've read. I'd remove the brakes from the Festool sanders except it would ruin the dust extraction.

Ok Brice here you go.
These are white oak select peices. Its tough to see but all these would be fine for a floor. They look pretty rough as far as the scratchs but once your a little further away from the wood it looks completely fine. Actually we usually water pop the floors prior to staining but I didnt do that for this as i wanted to see the scratch pattern. Stain is Jacobean or ebony minwax 450 voc I believe.
Lighting and angle played a big part as well. The grit face of paper is norton festool hole pattern 100G. The festool paper is (quite unfairly) 80Gcristal.

allo all
this is my first post on this forum.
I am a bit new on Festool but I just love those tool.
Strangly for my first post, I will post about my new Mirka.
Theire ware a lot of dabate on other forum to know if Festool hose fit into a Mirka:
Here are my 2 videos:

RIP_Ray Mirka - Out of the boxRIP_Ray Mirka - Out of the box

RIP_Ray Mirka Hose testing review

Probably you will take the time to look at my other Festool videos?
I made some of them about my CAPEX, CT26 & TS55

Salutations
Ray

Kev

I agree with that. I think there is some confusion on that one. My thought was the same, Ceros is comparable to an ets, not a rotex. And, I believe ets prices are a good bit lower than ro prices.

By the way, here is a great chart for sander decisions.  The RO90 isn't on this version yet, but it has the same capabilities and functions as the other Rotex models but in smaller size.  Plus it has the delta pad configuration.  Here is the link:  how_to_pick_the_right_festool_sander



Peter

Ah, look what you have done, you guys.

I just offloaded my Rotex 150 and will pick up a Ceros next week, the 6".