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« on: August 22, 2011, 08:20 AM » |
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As promised here’s a little review of the Systand, an MFT like Systainer workbench top.  The Systand can be purchased in the Netherlands at www.diafer.nl or with email to info@diafer.nl. The price is 79 EUR plus shipping, VAT and possible customs if ordered outside Europe. Unfortunately single shipping even inside Europe doesn’t come cheap. This is the classic version, but a T-Loc is in development.  Anyway the material is birch Multiplex with custom made hardware and I am almost certain the parts were CNC made and then glued and nailed. Except some minor and unavoidable chipping from routing the MFT grid (19,5 mm) the whole design and assembly is absolutely Festool like, practical and topnotch.  The Systand accurately fits on the Systainer and with the laser cut steel snapper fastener it connects perfectly to the Systainer. It’s not lightweight, but carrying a medium filled systainer on the Systand is not a problem.  Both clamps fit easy and perfect into the hole grid as well as into the side openings. In addition there is a V groove, that helps fix work pieces on top.  Although anyone can make a similar version of this worktop, I don’t think there’s much room for improvement and you still have to make your own hardware. Therefore EUR 79,- is a very reasonable price. Of course shipping and taxes are a concern, but this could probably be reduced if ordered in bulk. |
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Alan m
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 09:01 AM » |
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thanks for the review.
i am awaiting an email from him so that i can get one.
it looks very well made.
could you show it in use and how pieces interact with it.
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Festoller
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 10:27 AM » |
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Alan m
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 11:57 AM » |
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what is your opinion of this
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
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hasslefactor
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 12:38 PM » |
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Very cool, Festoller - thanks for the review!
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 05:23 PM » |
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Thnks for the review, it does look like a very good piece of equipment for those little jobs on site where you need to hold something down. I like the side holding aspect and the fact its the same hight as the Sys 1. Well thought through.
I will keep an eye open for the new T lock version when it comes out.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 07:34 PM » |
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Pretty cool!  |
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I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 01:32 AM » |
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Definetly looks well made. Some good ideas. A little less compact than some others though.
Seth
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Kev
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 06:13 AM » |
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This is a nice concept - I'm thinking a t-loc version will be a future project for me!
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 06:22 AM » |
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hi Kev  to the fog join the growing group of antipodeans here. |
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Why do Festool accessories only have a two month guarantee here in the UK ?
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 10:55 AM » |
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This is a nice concept - I'm thinking a t-loc version will be a future project for me!
Hi, Welcome to the FOG !  Please post a thread on your MFT top when you get it built. Seth |
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Alan m
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 03:27 PM » |
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i bought one of these .
it is really well made
althow a bit dear it is worth it.
i still havnt got around to reviewing it (or using it much)
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
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bror
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2012, 03:42 PM » |
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preview T-Systand |
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Alan m
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 03:58 PM » |
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preview T-Systand [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
nice job. are the sides flush or is there a bit of an overhang |
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
wish list
of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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bror
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 04:35 PM » |
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Thanks Alan
The dimensions are the same as the T-Loc 1, so there's no overhang
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Alan m
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2012, 06:08 PM » |
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presimed so but the pic is decieving.
cant wait to see more of it
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 06:02 PM » |
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preview T-Systand [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
Ok where can I get one, is this still from www.diafer.nl cos there was no mention on their website of the new T-Loc version. Thanks Pip |
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 06:25 PM » |
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preview T-Systand [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
Ok where can I get one, is this still from www.diafer.nl cos there was no mention on their website of the new T-Loc version. Thanks Pip Here is the thread about the new version: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/t-systand-t-loc-systainer-top-workbench/You might want to click on the starter of that thread and send him a message. Peter |
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2012, 07:20 PM » |
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Here is the thread about the new version: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/t-systand-t-loc-systainer-top-workbench/You might want to click on the starter of that thread and send him a message. Peter [/quote] Thanks Peter I just sent him an email and he quickly replyed The T-systand costs €69,- excl 19% VAT in the shops in holland. I can offer you the T-systand for the FOG introduction price of €65,- excl. shipping and VAT. A fair price for such a lot of machining and material. I am seriously thinking of getting one. It was nice to have a FOG discount thrown in. Pip |
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