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Offline erock

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Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:54 AM »

I bought the Kreg Foreman (model DB210)  back in November of 2015.  Some of you guys noticed in my Sys Port build video that I introduced the Kreg Foreman in the middle of the build process.   
The Kreg Foreman has been a work horse in my shop.   I'm so happy Kreg made a foreman machine affordable for everyone. 
Whether you're a pro or a hobbyist.   If you use pocket holes as much as I do.  You should consider checking out the Kreg Foreman.
The machine is VERY easy to set up.  Dust collection is just fantastic when it's hooked up to a shop vac,  OR for most of us a CT vac.
The ability to use all 3 Kreg bits, from the standard bit, the Micro bit and the HD bit with one machine makes joining material from 1/2" (13mm)    to  1-1/2" (38mm)   quick and simple.

Okay, enough of my mumbo jumbo........check out the video.   





Tare care guys !

Eric

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 03:49 PM »
@erock

Great info thanks. What are you using as an adapter between the Festool hose and the Foreman dust port? I think this question came up here very recently.

Thanks

Offline bobfog

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 04:31 PM »

I'm so happy Kreg made a foreman machine affordable for everyone.

I'm sure Kreg will be so happy with that sound bite.

Offline erock

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2016, 08:10 PM »
@erock

Great info thanks. What are you using as an adapter between the Festool hose and the Foreman dust port? I think this question came up here very recently.

Thanks

@copcarcollector

The piece I use for connecting the Kreg Foreman to a CT is a rubber piece from an old vacuum we tossed out years ago.   So I can not give you any information about the actual piece I use.

But, I went out and took some pictures for some possible solutions for someone.

If you want to hook up a Ridgid Shop Vac to the Kreg Foreman you could use the following.....

Sorry, but I can not find a part number for this vac accessory.  But the picture should be of some help.







If you want to hook up a CT vac to the Kreg Foreman you could use the following......










All pieces bought and found at Home Depot.

Hope this helps someone.    [wink]

Eric

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2016, 08:14 PM »
Geeze Eric, I wish you would have given some details..!! [wink]

Thanks for the help, part #s etc - you da' man.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2016, 08:35 PM »
Great video. I would have loved to see you pocket holing a large panel .. just to get an idea of the convenience [big grin]

Thanks Eric.
 

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 08:52 PM »
The Foreman is one of those tools that represents a huge jump in productivity. It's profit in a blue box.  I put it in the same category as a track saw or my Copemaster for simplifying my job and speeding production.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 11:18 PM »
Hey Eric,  Great video!  Thanks for the rundown on the Foreman.  Looks like an excellent product.

Mike A.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2016, 09:26 AM »
The Foreman is one of those tools that represents a huge jump in productivity. It's profit in a blue box.  I put it in the same category as a track saw or my Copemaster for simplifying my job and speeding production.

I saw this morning that Kreg sells a 5 spindle pocket hole machine.  Just imagine the jump in productivity! 
-Raj

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 06:01 PM »
Great video. I would have loved to see you pocket holing a large panel .. just to get an idea of the convenience [big grin]

Thanks Eric.

@Kev
Hey Kev,
I've drilled some good sized panels with the Foreman.  No problems.   Some of my older vids I show some bigger panels being drilled.
I would like to build a table for more support of larger panels.   Maybe some day I'll get around to that.   [scratch chin]
More support on the left and right side would be nice.   [wink]

Eric

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 09:59 PM »
Great video. I would have loved to see you pocket holing a large panel .. just to get an idea of the convenience [big grin]

Thanks Eric.

@Kev
Hey Kev,
I've drilled some good sized panels with the Foreman.  No problems.   Some of my older vids I show some bigger panels being drilled.
I would like to build a table for more support of larger panels.   Maybe some day I'll get around to that.   [scratch chin]
More support on the left and right side would be nice.   [wink]

Eric

@erock

Hmmm .. now I'm curious about the dimensions and whether it'd drop into a CMS module's space [scratch chin]


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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2016, 10:03 PM »
Great video. I would have loved to see you pocket holing a large panel .. just to get an idea of the convenience [big grin]

Thanks Eric.

@Kev
Hey Kev,
I've drilled some good sized panels with the Foreman.  No problems.   Some of my older vids I show some bigger panels being drilled.
I would like to build a table for more support of larger panels.   Maybe some day I'll get around to that.   [scratch chin]
More support on the left and right side would be nice.   [wink]

Eric

@erock

Hmmm .. now I'm curious about the dimensions and whether it'd drop into a CMS module's space [scratch chin]


@Kev

CMS ?     What's that?     [bite tongue]     [mad]     [tongue]     [poke]

Offline RobBob

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2016, 10:06 PM »
Here's one idea.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 06:33 AM »
Old thread I know but this seemed like a good place to ask this question
so as to keep information on the Kreg Foreman all together.

I lost one of the rubber foot pads for my Kreg Foreman and after looking
high and low I can not find it. Retraced my steps of where I was that day
(working out of the shop), looked in the bed of the truck, at the worksite,
but can't find it.

So I figured I am going to have to buy a replacement, can't cost that
much right? Well, the sad part is that apparently you can't buy parts for
the Foreman. When I went to Kreg's site and tried to find where you order
parts from there was nothing. So I emailed Customer Service and asked
where can I get a replacement foot pad from and they told me they don't
sell them.

This piece is not secured to the machine, it just slip fits into the foot of the
tool. No screw or adhesive is used to keep it in place, you can slip them in
and out easily. Apparently what happened to me was I was carrying the
Foreman out to the truck and I guess the rubber pad snagged on my clothing
and got pulled out and dropped somewhere along the way. Can't find it to save
my life.

So does anyone know of a place where I can get another rubber foot pad for the
Kreg Foreman? I was really surprised to find out that it's not available from Kreg.

Update: I just couldn't believe that the above was true so once their office opened
this morning I called the 800 number on their website and asked to speak to someone
about obtaining replacement parts. The gentleman I spoke with told me the same thing
as I was told in the email; "We don't have the part [the rubber foot] available to sell you."
I asked so do you have any other parts available for the Foreman and he said only the motor
is offered as a replacement part. I asked about the flip-out stops on the fence and other
small parts that could become lost or broken during use and he said no for the stops but
they might be able to help on a case-by-case basis possibly with other parts.

Attached is the email I received yesterday. I have blanked out the name of the person who
responded to me because this is not about an individual, it's about the company and their
parts availability, or lack there of I guess. So for those who are contemplating purchasing
a Kreg Foreman, something to factor into your decision. The tool is great and performs very
well, I have no problem with the Kreg Foreman or any of the other Kreg tools and jigs I own.
If I had known before what I know now I am not sure I would have bought what has turned
out to be a throw away tool should it ever break down.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 10:38 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline Rollin22Petes

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 10:16 PM »
Unfortunately I ran into the same issue with parts. I accidently bored through my fence (don't ask how) and wanted to order a new one and found out it was unavailable. I like the foreman but may not have bought it if I knew replacement parts weren't available. 

Offline ear3

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2017, 01:47 PM »
That's kind of crazy that they don't offer replacement parts.  It's not like Kreg is some boutique manufacturer with a small batch product run.

Old thread I know but this seemed like a good place to ask this question
so as to keep information on the Kreg Foreman all together.

I lost one of the rubber foot pads for my Kreg Foreman and after looking
high and low I can not find it. Retraced my steps of where I was that day
(working out of the shop), looked in the bed of the truck, at the worksite,
but can't find it.

So I figured I am going to have to buy a replacement, can't cost that
much right? Well, the sad part is that apparently you can't buy parts for
the Foreman. When I went to Kreg's site and tried to find where you order
parts from there was nothing. So I emailed Customer Service and asked
where can I get a replacement foot pad from and they told me they don't
sell them.

This piece is not secured to the machine, it just slip fits into the foot of the
tool. No screw or adhesive is used to keep it in place, you can slip them in
and out easily. Apparently what happened to me was I was carrying the
Foreman out to the truck and I guess the rubber pad snagged on my clothing
and got pulled out and dropped somewhere along the way. Can't find it to save
my life.

So does anyone know of a place where I can get another rubber foot pad for the
Kreg Foreman? I was really surprised to find out that it's not available from Kreg.

Update: I just couldn't believe that the above was true so once their office opened
this morning I called the 800 number on their website and asked to speak to someone
about obtaining replacement parts. The gentleman I spoke with told me the same thing
as I was told in the email; "We don't have the part [the rubber foot] available to sell you."
I asked so do you have any other parts available for the Foreman and he said only the motor
is offered as a replacement part. I asked about the flip-out stops on the fence and other
small parts that could become lost or broken during use and he said no for the stops but
they might be able to help on a case-by-case basis possibly with other parts.

Attached is the email I received yesterday. I have blanked out the name of the person who
responded to me because this is not about an individual, it's about the company and their
parts availability, or lack there of I guess. So for those who are contemplating purchasing
a Kreg Foreman, something to factor into your decision. The tool is great and performs very
well, I have no problem with the Kreg Foreman or any of the other Kreg tools and jigs I own.
If I had known before what I know now I am not sure I would have bought what has turned
out to be a throw away tool should it ever break down.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2017, 02:52 PM »
I know, I can't figure out where they are coming from by not offering replacement parts, especially for piece parts that are likely to get lost (as happened to me), damaged, or wear out. It's not like we're talking about a $25 hand held pocket hole jig, this is a $400 tool that I would expect most people would purchase thinking they will get a few years use out of and that there would be some support for the tool at least while it is still in production and being sold.

They told me they have no way of getting me a replacement foot pad.

Crazy stuff. It certainly doesn't make me want to buy more Kreg products I know that.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2017, 09:32 PM by Bob D. »
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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2017, 05:22 PM »
I know, I can't figure out where they are coming from by not offering replacement parts, especially for piece parts that are likely to get lost (as happened to me), damaged, or wear out. It's like we're talking about a $25 hand held pocket hole jig, this is a $400 tool that I would expect most people would purchase thinking they will get a few years use out of and that there would be some support for the tool at least while it is still in production and being sold.

They told me they have no way of getting me a replacement foot pad.

Crazy stuff. It certainly doesn't make me want to buy more Kreg products I know that.

I am sure you could figure a way to scrap their pads and just use 4 totally different pads.  Now I am not saying you should have to and I get your frustration, but to not offer actual parts needed for the machine's operations like the fence etc, that would really burn me up. I won't purchase one now for sure. Heck, in almost every machine manual I own the last page has all the  parts listed and a place where you can order them.

I actually didn't believe it at first, but after googling for  a couple hours it seems they just do offer replacement parts for that machine, it's ridiculous.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2017, 12:34 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2017, 09:37 PM »
I'm not trying to start a campaign against Kreg, I think their stuff is great and I have many of their tools and jigs. Just saying consider that as of right now they don't offer replacements for most of the parts that make up the Forman pocket hole machine. Hopefully that will change some day.

I guess I could find a piece of neoprene the same thickness and glue that on. For now I have removed the remaining three and it sits on a wheeled cabinet so I can move it around the shop easily. I have it secured to the top of the cabinet so it doesn't move. The only time I will miss that fourth foot pad is if I take it outside the shop again so it's not the end of the world.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2017, 04:48 AM by Bob D. »
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2017, 12:39 AM »
You are not doing anything but stating something everyone should know before they buy. I wonder how many they would sell if the ads and videos stated "no replacement parts available".

I have crap loads of Kreg stuff, this just strikes me as strange. In the old days Todd Sommerfeld  never would operate like that. I wonder if he still answers emails like in the old days now that he is grown up and now the  CEO? I really want to hear the answer to this question right from his mouth. Heck, I wonder if he even knows about it. I think his dad ran a tighter ship at least it seems so.

Most woodworkers know, some newbs might not Todd is the brother of Marc Sommerfeld(and Craig  who came invented the jig and sold them one by one to friends at first, basically out of his garage and is Todd's father) who makes and sells router tables, fences and videos using his technique on cabinet making.

http://sommerfeldtools.com/

« Last Edit: August 14, 2017, 01:26 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2017, 06:19 PM »
Are their tools made in China?
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2017, 09:13 PM »
Are their tools made in China?

Don't know but I don't think that matters. They are still making the tool so wherever they are assembled they have a pile of feet waiting to be installed on the base of the tool. Go get one of those and sell it to me. It's not like I am asking them for something that went out of production 10 years ago.
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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2017, 10:39 PM »
Are their tools made in China?

Don't know but I don't think that matters. They are still making the tool so wherever they are assembled they have a pile of feet waiting to be installed on the base of the tool. Go get one of those and sell it to me. It's not like I am asking them for something that went out of production 10 years ago.
Agreed. I was just asking because from my experience many of these companies that have their products made overseas dont stock any spare parts and wont or cant get them to sell them. Is it ridiculous? Especially on a $400 products? OH YEA! And it says a lot about the company. But in my experience it's becoming more and more common.
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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2017, 06:01 PM »
Are their tools made in China?

Don't know but I don't think that matters. They are still making the tool so wherever they are assembled they have a pile of feet waiting to be installed on the base of the tool. Go get one of those and sell it to me. It's not like I am asking them for something that went out of production 10 years ago.
Agreed. I was just asking because from my experience many of these companies that have their products made overseas dont stock any spare parts and wont or cant get them to sell them. Is it ridiculous? Especially on a $400 products? OH YEA! And it says a lot about the company. But in my experience it's becoming more and more common.

Not at all uncommon anymore. Sometimes, assemblies are subcontracted out. So you can only buy the assembly as the 'manufacturer' never had the original part. Taken a step further, when the entire process is sub-contracted out, the manufacturer has little more than a boxed product with a PO number. If it's manufactured over seas, just give up.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2017, 09:33 PM »
I don't know that giving up is the way to go. I bought a two RIDGID FlipTop stands a couple years ago and one was missing the lever handle for adjusting the height. I contacted RIDGID and they sent me a replacement for the missing handle no charge. It took a while, almost 5 weeks, but I got it.

The part I don't understand is do they really think someone is going to buy a whole new Kreg Foreman if the fence gets damaged or the cheap plastic handle breaks and they can't get a replacement? It's one of their more expensive tools you think they would have some parts available for it.
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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2017, 09:44 PM »
Makes very little sense, thanks for the heads-up.  Now I know to treat it a little more gently...
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Video: Kreg Foreman Pocket-Hole Machine
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2017, 05:18 AM »
Since one of the topics that has come up in this thread is dust collection and connecting a vacuum I thought I would share how I set my Foreman up.

I had a Dust Deputy Deluxe that I was using with a shop vac which I replaced with the Ultimate Dust Deputy in my basement shop and I put the UDD in line with the whole house vac. Works great but that's getting off topic so I'll save that for another day and a different thread.

I took the DDD, that's the small cyclone that comes with the 5 gallon bucket, casters, etc. and I teamed it up with one of those $20 buckethead vacs from Home Depot. I also had laying around an old Craftsman Auto-Switch which I used to use with my shop vac and router table so I put all this together and set it up as a dedicated dust collection system for the Foreman. Right now I have all this sitting on the floor behind the mobile cabinet that I have the Foreman mounted on. But I am thinking now after having used it for a couple months like this and liking how it performs that I will build the DD and the vac into the bottom of the cabinet.

With the AutoSwitch the vac starts whenever I pull the trigger on the Foreman and it stops a few seconds later allowing the vac to clear the dust out. I probably don't need the DD but I had it and nothing else to use it for so why not. The switch has two accessory outlets so I may add an LED work light that will start/stop with the vacuum.

If I ever want to take the Foreman on the road I just unplug the vac hose and the power cord and away I go (with only three feet though).
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