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Hello Everyone I have a number of really good tools from Wera and want to let you know what I think of them. Take a look at my video....
For UK readers - I have bought all of my Wera bit sets and screwdrivers from Screwfix as they are the cheapest and we have several branches in this area. Peter |
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 06:48 PM » |
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i have the impacter version. i got sick of breaking bits every day so i bought that set.
i still break bits but it is a lot rarer now.
i often broke 2-3 in a day driving 4 "screws. now it is 1 a month.
it is getting a bit stiff to take the bit out. might need some oil etc. bit it is easily one of the best purchases i ever made.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 10:50 PM » |
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I have some of the Wera line too. And even more Wiha which I use for messing up electronics - attempting repairs on laptop computers etc.
In fact it was some small Wiha Torx drivers that really began my appreciation for German tools some 25 years ago.
Perhaps my biggest annoyance with Festool is the mediocre support for ball detent tools in the drill line. I could certainly make better use of the combination of Festool and Wera if it weren't for that.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 04:25 PM » |
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Thanks for the review Peter! I browsed their site after watching it and wound up ordering one of their Impaktor sets.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 04:41 PM » |
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Yes, thanks for that video Peter! I bought my father the Wera Kraftform Kompakt 26 screwdriver for fathers day. I think this will be the only gift I've ever given him that he'll actually use!  |
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 05:15 PM » |
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Hi Ken
I always found it difficult to get presents for my dad - not because he would not appreciate anything given to him but because I was so desperate to make him happy.
Dad taught me a lot about woodwork but most of all he gave me the confidence to be able to tackle any job even if at the start it was impossible to see how it should end. Dad had a sort of sixth sense and could tell if a machine was not right long before it went wrong. Nothing ever phased him.
Dad died at 98 years old and would have been 100 a couple of weeks ago. It is such a pity that so many of the youngsters today have to grow up in households with no true father figure. I miss Dad a lot.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 05:36 PM » |
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One more thing up the sleeve of the Kompakt is the bolt-like collar on the handle for that little bit of extra torque with a wrench if needed. Came in handy when I was last working on my -69 VW Bug's hinge screws. Love mine - it's always in my work overall pocket  I've been eyeing the Joker combination wratchets and the Zyklop wrenches too. They feel a bit pricey, but oh boy do they feel quality too... |
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 06:06 PM » |
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I use the Wera regular screw drivers and have not purchased the compact all in one. My dealer does not carry the slick kits that you show. Those would be great to have.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2012, 06:18 PM » |
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The Kompact you show in the video is the first multi-bit type driver that looks really good to me. The bit storage doesn't make the handle into a giant montrosity, the bits don't rattle around in it , short and long driver in one ,, removable/changeable driver shaft... + quality. Hard to beat. This place looks like they have everything http://chadstoolbox.com/Seth |
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 07:54 PM » |
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Thanks for the review Peter,
I have the Kraftform Kompakt 20 for about 2 years now. It lives in my rucksack because as you say when you are visiting friends there is maybe a kitchen door that could do with a tighten up.
By the time some of my friends have found a screwdriver I have finished the job. I love the thing.
It is one of my all time favourite tools. I dont leave home without it.
Wera do make some lovely kit.
The W in German is pronounced like a V so will sound like Vera.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2012, 08:17 PM » |
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I have three sets of Wera screwdrivers and also the Kompact model that another Peter (  reviewed. I love the Kompact and found that you can just barely squeeze a Festool Twinbox (remember those?) set of bits in the case also. This is a great setup for when you grab your Festool drill and also have the BHS-65. Woodcrafts carry the Kompacts as well as some Wera screwdrivers and sets and about three times a year they go on sale. Peter |
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2012, 10:04 PM » |
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I got the Kraftform Kompact 3 years ago at a hardware store in a town of like 400, who would have thought?
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I got the Kraftform Kompact 3 years ago at a hardware store in a town of like 400, who would have thought?
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2012, 01:24 AM » |
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Thanks for the review Peter,
I have the Kraftform Kompakt 20 for about 2 years now. It lives in my rucksack because as you say when you are visiting friends there is maybe a kitchen door that could do with a tighten up.
By the time some of my friends have found a screwdriver I have finished the job. I love the thing.
It is one of my all time favourite tools. I dont leave home without it.
Wera do make some lovely kit.
The W in German is pronounced like a V so will sound like Vera.
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Hi Pip Ja. Ich verstehe. Ich lebte für drei Jahre in Bielefeld. If you watch the video carefully you will see that at one point I accidentally start with the 'V' sound but then remember that I have an English speaking audience. Peter |
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2012, 03:02 AM » |
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One more thing up the sleeve of the Kompakt is the bolt-like collar on the handle for that little bit of extra torque with a wrench if needed. Came in handy when I was last working on my -69 VW Bug's hinge screws. Love mine - it's always in my work overall pocket I've been eyeing the Joker combination wratchets and the Zyklop wrenches too. They feel a bit pricey, but oh boy do they feel quality too... Hi Reiska I am not sure about putting a wrench on the end of the handle but what one could do is use the right size Joker, threaded onto the shaft, if extra leverage were needed (actually I would reach for the tiny ratchet that I demonstrated). Peter |
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2012, 04:09 AM » |
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Hi Pip
Ja. Ich verstehe. Ich lebte für drei Jahre in Bielefeld.
If you watch the video carefully you will see that at one point I accidentally start with the 'V' sound but then remember that I have an English speaking audience.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2012, 04:35 AM » |
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 This was what I ment - not breaking the end of the tool. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2012, 04:55 AM » |
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.....What were you doing for so long in Bielefeld Peter?
I had a NATO job on the outskirts. It was a lovely town in the late 1980s- early 90s. We have many happy memories from our days there. We lived near Kremelman's cake shop - if it is still there. We go to Germany every year for our walking and cycling holidays. I speak a little German but my written German is awful (I had to use a translation engine to do my quote above but I could say it if you were here). Peter |
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One more thing up the sleeve of the Kompakt is the bolt-like collar on the handle for that little bit of extra torque with a wrench if needed. Came in handy when I was last working on my -69 VW Bug's hinge screws. Love mine - it's always in my work overall pocket I've been eyeing the Joker combination wratchets and the Zyklop wrenches too. They feel a bit pricey, but oh boy do they feel quality too... I LOVE my Zyklop set, the quality of that tool is amazing. Likewise with my Kompact screwdriver set, it's become the only screwdriver I ever use. |
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Darn you Stone Message,  You evil evil person... I have been using the screwdrivers by Wera for a couple of years and maintained a second set as back up if something goes missing. Well my main Phillips #1 can't be found (maybe my other personality hid it)  so I need to replace it. Working on the Electrical portion of a project me and my work mate were using the Roberson Wera drivers all the time as the US has finally gotten smart and devices now have heads that can use Flat, Phillips or Robertson drivers to install. So I thought I would pick him up a Roberson #1 and #2 for him. Oh the evil effects of FOG reviews with posted video reviews and dealer discounts. I went in looking for a P#1 and maybe getting a R#1 & 2 for my work mate. But NO... you silver tongued devil reviewers and sales staff at WoodCraft... I walked out with all that is in the below image.  Dang I love this site!!!!! Cheers, Steve |
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Darn you Stone Message, You evil evil person... I have been using the screwdrivers by Wera for a couple of years and maintained a second set as back up if something goes missing. Well my main Phillips #1 can't be found (maybe my other personality hid it) so I need to replace it. Working on the Electrical portion of a project me and my work mate were using the Roberson Wera drivers all the time as the US has finally gotten smart and devices now have heads that can use Flat, Phillips or Robertson drivers to install. So I thought I would pick him up a Roberson #1 and #2 for him. Oh the evil effects of FOG reviews with posted video reviews and dealer discounts. I went in looking for a P#1 and maybe getting a R#1 & 2 for my work mate. But NO... you silver tongued devil reviewers and sales staff at WoodCraft... I walked out with all that is in the below image. [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] Dang I love this site!!!!! Cheers, Steve Can you post some clearer pictures please? I'm looking and looking, but I can't see your Wera Joker wrenches anywhere  |
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As far as putting a wrench on the driver.... I see that Wera has a special line just for that purpose (Kraftform 900). The ones with yellow on the handles instead of the blue/green. They also have impact end caps. Here is a link to Wera site http://www-us.wera.de/ Seth |
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As far as putting a wrench on the driver.... I see that Wera has a special line just for that purpose. Chisel something? The ones with yellow on the handles instead of the blue/green. Something in the description also leads me to believe they might have "hammerable" end caps. Here is a link to Wera site http://www-us.wera.de/ Seth Yes. It's called the chiseldriver and it's for wrenching on, screwdriving and chiseling. |
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Darn you Stone Message, You evil evil person... ................ Oh the evil effects of FOG reviews with posted video reviews and dealer discounts. I went in looking for a P#1 and maybe getting a R#1 & 2 for my work mate. But NO... you silver tongued devil reviewers and sales staff at WoodCraft... I walked out with all that is in the below image. [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] Dang I love this site!!!!! Cheers, Steve Hi Steve I do my videos for nothing and only get any real income from reviews if I write an article for my magazine. My aim is to make people aware of good tools, good ideas and so on. I only discovered Festool 18 months ago - I just wish someone had told me about them before. I have been with Wera a lot longer but again, I wish I had learnt not to waste money on rubbish much earlier in life. I suppose it is evangelical work that I do! Peter |
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I enjoyed your review and also noticed that it had a very strong effect on me the last time I was in the DIY shop and came home with the Wera Bit Ratchet Set. It wasn't even on special.
Its now in my Festool Screwdriver box, covers all my needs and is so compact and I love the little ratchet and bit holder.
I will have to check my susceptibility to product placement.
My partner asked me "do you need it or do you just want it"?.
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Product placement...
In one of my early videos I was using my glue which is kept in an Elmers Glue bottle - it is even visible in some of my magazine pictures - until a few weeks ago it was not possible to buy it in England (mine came from the US). I have not reviewed it yet.
I do a lot of Festool product placement on the FOG!
I will also remind people of the other products that I really like - Osmo, Wera and Cyclone Central to name just a few.
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Kraft Kompact 20 I looked at da while ago when I saw Deans and thought it looked a handy tool but soon noticed it was not for me. What put me of was the end the bit holder part. Its to big won't fit in a lot of places and so it can't replace normal hand screw drivers. I like the special features. The special feature to use it in a impact drill or/driver to me is a useless feature it's cool feature but all my drills all have bit holders in them already with them most of them have two or 3 spares in the box. I went and bought a wiha drive-loc instead a lot more useful to me. The ends are like normal screw drivers norow and they are adjustsable in length. http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/281_Driveloc_Blades.htm |
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They look good where did you get them?
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I went and bought a wiha drive-loc instead a lot more useful to me. The ends are like normal screw drivers norow and they are adjustsable in length.
Same here. I really like Wiha tools. I often wonder if Wiha and Wera are not related somehow. I really like the Wiha Bitflip. Very handy tool for installs.   |
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