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Richard/RMW
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 03:03 PM » |
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Seeking encouragement Kev...? Go on... bid... you NEED them.... Hopefully someday you can be there for me.  RMW |
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 03:11 PM » |
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Well, its a nice collection, but awfully many of the same size/type. I would, as a collector of other items, want to rather have one of every type/size in mint condition.
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Bob Gerritsen
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 03:36 PM » |
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Man... I used to be all over auctions like that. Got me many planes and other tools through Ebay. Of all the planes I have though, the new ones from Veritas and Lie-Nielsen that I finally bought get 99% of the action. The older ones that do perform top notch only started to after many, many hours of tuning and TLC, which was fun for the first couple but then it wore off. I don't know, old tools are really cool but the new ones are often so much better. There seem to be a couple of nice ones in there though... All yours Kev!  |
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RL
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 03:42 PM » |
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I'd rather have one plane in tip-top condition than 14 that need serious restoring. A 5 1/2 is my favourite size.
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Kev
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 06:43 PM » |
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If I do weaken and if the auction doesn't run away, I'd probably pick out ~5 as keepers and sell the rest individually. I can't imagine refurbishing 14 planes, that's for sure  The starting price would certainly buy one good number 5 ... Probably a much smarter direction. I have a few block planes and a number 4 in Stanley and a Record number 4 - but none of these are particular "special". |
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 09:10 PM » |
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Man... I used to be all over auctions like that. Got me many planes and other tools through Ebay. Of all the planes I have though, the new ones from Veritas and Lie-Nielsen that I finally bought get 99% of the action. The older ones that do perform top notch only started to after many, many hours of tuning and TLC, which was fun for the first couple but then it wore off. I don't know, old tools are really cool but the new ones are often so much better. There seem to be a couple of nice ones in there though... All yours Kev! +1 Unless your hobby is refurbing planes, just splurge on a nice LN or Veritas and you will be so much happier. I have a LN block plane, and an old Stanley block (type 18 I think), the LN is just so much more substantial. I'm sure there are some purists out there, but to echo what Bob just said, the new ones are so much better. If you do go the refurb route, check out Hock blades. I think David Charlesworth has a book on plane tuning. |
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Kev
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 12:01 AM » |
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Man... I used to be all over auctions like that. Got me many planes and other tools through Ebay. Of all the planes I have though, the new ones from Veritas and Lie-Nielsen that I finally bought get 99% of the action. The older ones that do perform top notch only started to after many, many hours of tuning and TLC, which was fun for the first couple but then it wore off. I don't know, old tools are really cool but the new ones are often so much better. There seem to be a couple of nice ones in there though... All yours Kev! +1 Unless your hobby is refurbing planes, just splurge on a nice LN or Veritas and you will be so much happier. I have a LN block plane, and an old Stanley block (type 18 I think), the LN is just so much more substantial. I'm sure there are some purists out there, but to echo what Bob just said, the new ones are so much better. If you do go the refurb route, check out Hock blades. I think David Charlesworth has a book on plane tuning. I'm gradually coming out of the EBay induced perceived bargain psychosis - thanks ... I think there's something elemental about an old hand plane that speaks to you about a simpler time ! I suppose I should remind myself we're in the plastic disposable era  |
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2012, 12:24 AM » |
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So call it a 12 step program and buy two.....leave the other 12 for Others. Cheers, Steve |
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2012, 01:06 AM » |
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I'm gradually coming out of the EBay induced perceived bargain psychosis - thanks ... I think there's something elemental about an old hand plane that speaks to you about a simpler time ! I suppose I should remind myself we're in the plastic disposable era I hear you. I've got a 1940 Stanley No. 5 w/ rosewood tote and knob, its beautiful. I think about the carpenter that used it before me, and what he may have made... I spent way too long flattening it on a piece of granite, it has a razor sharp Hock blade, and I still think the LN is nicer. A lot of things can be considered plastic and disposable, but some of the non-power hand tools you can buy today are far and above better than anything you could by then. The planes in this auction though, are not that. The planes in the last picture have plastic handles, and are pretty much junk. Maybe worth $5 at a garage sale. Now his other auction: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PRICE-REDUCED-PLANE-VINTAGE-WOODEN-BLOCK-7-PLANE-COLLECTION-GREAT-DISPLAY-/120943123929?pt=AU_ToolsHardwareLocks&hash=item1c28c59dd9#ht_500wt_1287those seem cool! |
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2012, 01:59 AM » |
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Man... I used to be all over auctions like that. Got me many planes and other tools through Ebay. Of all the planes I have though, the new ones from Veritas and Lie-Nielsen that I finally bought get 99% of the action. The older ones that do perform top notch only started to after many, many hours of tuning and TLC, which was fun for the first couple but then it wore off. I don't know, old tools are really cool but the new ones are often so much better. There seem to be a couple of nice ones in there though... All yours Kev! +1 Unless your hobby is refurbing planes, just splurge on a nice LN or Veritas and you will be so much happier. I have a LN block plane, and an old Stanley block (type 18 I think), the LN is just so much more substantial. I'm sure there are some purists out there, but to echo what Bob just said, the new ones are so much better. If you do go the refurb route, check out Hock blades. I think David Charlesworth has a book on plane tuning. I'm gradually coming out of the EBay induced perceived bargain psychosis - thanks ... I think there's something elemental about an old hand plane that speaks to you about a simpler time ! I suppose I should remind myself we're in the plastic disposable era What you say is so true... i'm really starting to like all the Canadian-made products from Veritas and Jessem. They're my new go-to choices (after Festool of course). They just feel substantial and well-made. They perform beautifully and I rather just buy one instead of a dozen that are iffy-quality. Besides it takes a lot less room. |
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Kev
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 05:07 AM » |
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Veritas are a lot cheaper than LN in Oz ... How do people rate them ??
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RL
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 07:46 AM » |
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My first hand plane was a #4 Veritas. An excellent plane, but it is not quite in the same league as a Lie Nielsen bench plane. I have several planes from both manufacturers- I find them all to be top notch, but I find the specialty planes to be better at Veritas whereas I prefer the Lie Nielsen bench planes.
Basically you can't go wrong with either, and if you do it's 99% likely to be user-related. More than any other tool, hand planes have a long learning curve.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 08:53 AM » |
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I enjoy the refurb of an old plane occasionally however there are many, many, many hours of elbow grease & work involved in that package. I have about a dozen old Stanleys (mostly larger) that are still awaiting my attention. While working on those planes woodworking takes a back seat. I sometimes enjoy grabbing one that is restored but most often I'll use my Veritas or LN's to do the task.
It never ceases to amaze me at the thousands & thousands of these great old planes that still show up at garage sales, flea markets, etc.
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 09:23 AM » |
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Probably the very last planes to ever come over on the convict boats!  Lambeater. |
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Kev
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2012, 10:28 AM » |
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Probably the very last planes to ever come over on the convict boats! Lambeater. My old man had some lovely planes he'd brought over from the UK to Oz - but the vultures got them |
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 02:38 PM » |
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It never ceases to amaze me at the thousands & thousands of these great old planes that still show up at garage sales, flea markets, etc.
And how often the junk ones are priced at the level of a mint-condition Stanley Bedrock. RMW |
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 03:31 PM » |
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It never ceases to amaze me at the thousands & thousands of these great old planes that still show up at garage sales, flea markets, etc.
And how often the junk ones are priced at the level of a mint-condition Stanley Bedrock. RMW Good point -- e-bay is a bad place to buy the old Stanleys. They usually have gravitated to e-bay for good reason. |
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