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what size and type transformers do you guys use?
atm in using a 3.3kva tranny which is ok for using a few tools but when im using the of2200 with the ctl 26 im on the power limit and the transformer trips, it has a cycle rating of 5mins on 15mins off which geta rather annoying when using the cms or routing worktops.
some goes when using the kapex for dadoing door frames etc
ive looked at 5kva trannys which are way too heavy to lug around (38kg) but i will have the same problem of tripping because it only has a 2.5kva continous rating so i wil be in the same 5mins on 15 mins off duty cycle
anoyone else have these problems?
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 04:40 AM » |
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what size and type transformers do you guys use?
atm in using a 3.3kva tranny which is ok for using a few tools but when im using the of2200 with the ctl 26 im on the power limit and the transformer trips, it has a cycle rating of 5mins on 15mins off which geta rather annoying when using the cms or routing worktops.
some goes when using the kapex for dadoing door frames etc
ive looked at 5kva trannys which are way too heavy to lug around (38kg) but i will have the same problem of tripping because it only has a 2.5kva continous rating so i wil be in the same 5mins on 15 mins off duty cycle
anoyone else have these problems?
I run 3.5kva and never had a problem tripping. Had it bog down when someone starts a saw up when im mid cut on somethingelse |
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 05:51 AM » |
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Hi transformers vary hugely in quality as do the duty cycles look for a quality transformer with a high duty cycle
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 09:05 AM » |
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I use two in my modest little workshop the biggest is the 3.5kva to cope with my dewalt flip over saw and the smaller 1.5kva for vac etc. The 3.5 kept tripping out with the vac attached too. Its rare I'm routing or cutting continuosly on site but have had the same issues because I would only have the 3.5 with me. I always keep tranny in the shade when out on site because a sunny day will heat them up even more if left exposed. Not that we get any sunny days anymore....  |
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 10:27 AM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 10:34 AM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
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Oh stop moaning about 110v tools  :D |
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 10:51 AM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
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What you don't like 110v tools jmb? Well that is new news  Pipe down |
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 12:16 PM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
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JMB EMPTY YOUR INBOX has anyone got the law that says about the 110v tools handy. im trying to see if our law is the same. most of these rules are copied from the uk version |
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 12:31 PM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
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JMB EMPTY YOUR INBOX has anyone got the law that says about the 110v tools handy. im trying to see if our law is the same. most of these rules are copied from the uk version No because there is no law |
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2012, 12:48 PM » |
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Well here is what I found, using the thin 16amp cable off my transformer 3.3kva my ts and kapex wouldn't cut as fast and the transformer would trip. So I changed all my cables too 32amp cables and put 16 amp plugs on them and now my festools work perfect. Another thing I noticed is when cables are ran more than 100 meters there is a drop in power
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2012, 01:17 PM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
JMB
Oh stop moaning about 110v tools :D sorry  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2012, 01:19 PM » |
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Best thing to do WE ALL gang up on companies who force you to use 110v and let use use what we want like the law allows us to do.
JMB
JMB EMPTY YOUR INBOX has anyone got the law that says about the 110v tools handy. im trying to see if our law is the same. most of these rules are copied from the uk version Dam IT!!! Its been full for a while no wonder I was not getting any messages. Wa was you going to ask me dude? |
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2012, 01:23 PM » |
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Its a safety issue using 110v. Unfortunately if you work on large sites in Ireland or the UK you have to use 110v.
I got a couple of wormdrives sent over from New York a few years back and just rewired them. They work fine but with a 10% power drop which has'nt affected my work noticably.
Seems though that wormdrives are banned in the UK and Ireland because they have no safety button. They just have a clutch system that disengages from the blade if the blade snags.
Was told by CDM guy that if 240v power is available on say a shop fit and you use a circuit breaker you are adhering to HSE rules. So I just carry a cheap and circuit cheerful breaker to use on a 240v chop saw I have.
Thing is I have used them on some big sites and the safety/hse guys dont even know what they are so have never been pulled up on it. Left handed chippys love them and always ask me to borrow them to use which I find amusing being a right hander...
If someone could just invent a tiny lightweight tranny for us to use on site.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2012, 01:27 PM » |
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Nothing to do with the safety button on them as i have a uk bought saw with no safety button, i think it is to do with the guards as i think all the blade has to be covered on uk saws which makes the guards crap, the wormdrives have a guard that leaves part of the blade exposed
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2012, 01:49 PM » |
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Ah! thanks for the info.... Because it leaves the blade exposed I have clipped the cable a couple of times and had to replace cable. How did you find out?
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2012, 01:52 PM » |
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Ah! thanks for the info.... Because it leaves the blade exposed I have clipped the cable a couple of times and had to replace cable. How did you find out?
I cant remeber but i was told somewhere about the blade guardingin the uk. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2012, 04:48 PM » |
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Well here is what I found, using the thin 16amp cable off my transformer 3.3kva my ts and kapex wouldn't cut as fast and the transformer would trip. So I changed all my cables too 32amp cables and put 16 amp plugs on them and now my festools work perfect. Another thing I noticed is when cables are ran more than 100 meters there is a drop in power
I totally agree I changed all my leads to 2,5mm years ago and that helped hugely.. !.5mm is only any good for lighting and any tool that draws the current of a dust extractor and a large router shoulld be fitted with a 32 amp plug |
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 03:13 AM » |
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A couple of guys I work with just bought the Makita rail saws and extractors to go with them. The Makita extractors come with the larger 32 amp plugs fitted, they swapped them for normal 16 amp ones so they could use them.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2012, 04:50 AM » |
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A couple of guys I work with just bought the Makita rail saws and extractors to go with them. The Makita extractors come with the larger 32 amp plugs fitted, they swapped them for normal 16 amp ones so they could use them.
Chris that is because makita is following the rules, if you buy a trend t11 @2000w router that is supplied without a plug,  but it tells you in the instructions it should be fitted with a 32amp plug |
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2012, 04:58 AM » |
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That's funny I've got a dewalt 626 think thats 2300 watts and it came with a normal 16amp plug.
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