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Offline Dick Mahany

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Airstack--Any reviews ?
« on: June 18, 2018, 06:00 PM »
Has anyone seen any reviews on the recently introduced Systainer based Rolair Airstack?  In particular I'm wondering if there exist any direct head to head real world comaprisons between it and the Rolair JC10 Plus.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 10:32 AM by Dick Mahany »

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Offline Gregor

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 11:25 AM »
Looks and sounds like a rebranded Schneider systainer compressor:




Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 11:46 AM »
I talked to the folks at Rolair a few months back and asked them if it was a rebranded Schneider.  They told me it was not, but was a very similar system built for them by one of their "partner companies".  With Schneider's excellent reputation, I was hoping that they were the producer.  I'm wondering if the Schneider unit is also built by someone else for them?

Offline ProCarpenterRVA

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 08:28 PM »
All I can say is that I waited for the thing soooo long... [emoji16]It's finally here! I got mine from Tool Nut and I was very impressed with the quality of the unit. I have only fired it up and checked it out for problems so far. It's fairly quiet. There's a lot of room in the systainer cord storage area for possibly a small coil hose and even a small inflation tool and blow gun....

I'm an old Emglo guy, and I have been lugging the small unit around for a while, up and down stairs, hills, in and out of trucks, they just won't die. At 62 pounds it was starting to kill me. The Rolair is 28 pounds. Way more manageable. Add a Sys Roll to the mix and I can make up a trim nailer cart with my Cadex systainers on top!

The unit was made in Italy according to the documentation for the compressor itself. I know the Italians are regarded as making a really good pump, so I like that.

I'll be using it for some kitchen crown, light rail and toe kick soon and will try to update here.



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Offline live4ever

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 09:39 PM »
Interesting, I didn't know the Airstak is made in Italy.  The Cadex systainer compressors are also made there.
Current systainer to productivity ratio:  very high

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2018, 10:17 PM »
@ProCarpenterRVA, thanks for the order and the post!
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Offline BJM9818

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2018, 01:43 PM »
Thanks for the post. I was ready to pull the trigger when the Cadex was announced 18? Months ago. Now I still want one but can’t decide if I should get the Rolair or order the larger Cadex from Canada.

Decisions decisions decisions.

Offline ProCarpenterRVA

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2018, 07:06 PM »
Used the Rolair Air Stak this week for some crown. Mounted on a Sys Roll with the Cadex 18 GA  and 21 GA, it rolled up and down stairs nicely... It chugs away like a larger Rolair! Very soothing. [emoji106]

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Offline reidbailey

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 02:36 PM »
I’ve been on the fence with the Rollie compressor but acme tools.com has a 15% off coupon through the 4th that can be applied. It might just be enough to push me to buy.

Before I do, I know there’s a premium for the form factor. Putting that aside, is there’s something I should consider in the same price range?


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Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 03:24 PM »
I’ve been on the fence with the Rollie compressor but acme tools.com has a 15% off coupon through the 4th that can be applied. It might just be enough to push me to buy.

Before I do, I know there’s a premium for the form factor. Putting that aside, is there’s something I should consider in the same price range?


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I decided to go with the Rolair JC10 Plus instead of the Airstack.  It only qualified for 10% at Acme, but it is more compressor for half the cost, is quieter at 60 dB and has a slightly larger capacity  sans the Airstack form factor.  The JC10 plus gets great reviews and has been proven over the test of time and is still quite compact.  I pulled the trigger yesterday  [big grin]
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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 08:18 PM »
I’ve been on the fence with the Rollie compressor but acme tools.com has a 15% off coupon through the 4th that can be applied. It might just be enough to push me to buy.

Before I do, I know there’s a premium for the form factor. Putting that aside, is there’s something I should consider in the same price range?


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I decided to go with the Rolair JC10 Plus instead of the Airstack.  It only qualified for 10% at Acme, but it is more compressor for half the cost, is quieter at 60 dB and has a slightly larger capacity  sans the Airstack form factor.  The JC10 plus gets great reviews and has been proven over the test of time and is still quite compact.  I pulled the trigger yesterday  [big grin]


Good points. Appreciate your reply.

I’ve been eyeing the JC10 too. Overall it’s a better machine and value. Only thing it doesn’t have is the form factor.


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Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 09:49 AM »


Specs on Tool it say 70db but the picture clearly shows 95db...or does it mean something else?  I don’t know what LWA is above it or if it’s relevant.  I like the idea of a compressor within a systainer but If it’s loud it won’t be as desirable (already have one of those).  95db is loud.
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Offline Twoodman66

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2018, 06:30 PM »
Noticeably  louder than a JC10, Also this will not be able to be placed on a finished floor as i watched it agitate across the counter

Offline Kevin D.

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2018, 07:25 PM »
I don't know how it compares to the Airstack, but when I used a sound meter app I installed on my phone to test my new Cadex in a Sys4 against my older JC10, they were both one or two DB's to each other in and around the 70db level.  Both were tested on the same very solid bolted to a wall table and the same distance from the phone itself multiple times.  Moving the phone away 4-5 feet made no difference in the db rating level readings.

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Offline Gregor

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2018, 05:41 AM »
Moving the phone away 4-5 feet made no difference in the db rating level readings.
Phones suck as DB meters. Such an app is a gimmick and the fancy display usually has nothing to do with reality.
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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2018, 10:37 AM »
According to Rolair, the 95 is inaccurate and pertains to the model sold in Europe. The db rating for the U.S. model is 70.



Specs on Tool it say 70db but the picture clearly shows 95db...or does it mean something else?  I don’t know what LWA is above it or if it’s relevant.  I like the idea of a compressor within a systainer but If it’s loud it won’t be as desirable (already have one of those).  95db is loud.
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Offline BJM9818

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2018, 11:18 PM »
I don't know how it compares to the Airstack, but when I used a sound meter app I installed on my phone to test my new Cadex in a Sys4 against my older JC10, they were both one or two DB's to each other in and around the 70db level.  Both were tested on the same very solid bolted to a wall table and the same distance from the phone itself multiple times.  Moving the phone away 4-5 feet made no difference in the db rating level readings.

Even if the app isn’t accurate. To your ear how did each sound?  I know my JC10 is about as quiet a compressor as you can get. People keep saying the  Rolair Systainer is not quit which is making me lean towards the Cadex

Offline Kevin D.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 09:36 AM »
They both are fairly quiet and similar in sound level to the ear.  The difference  is in the sound itself.  The JC10 has a more bass like sound to it whereas the Cadex has a more prrrrt sound to it.  Neither is annoying or seem loudish, they just sound a little different from one another.

The big difference between the two is recharge time.  The JC10 takes a full minute to charge from empty, whereas the Cadex 4 takes 15 seconds.  I think this is a combo of factors.  The JC10 has a somewhat larger tank capicity, but the RPMs of the motor pump on the Cadex runs at twice as fast of the RPMs of the Rolair.

I'm going a bit from my memory from a few months ago when I was evaluating all this, but IIRC the Cadex is 3.8 at 90 psi whereas the Rolair is 2.3 @ 90.
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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 12:13 PM »
They both are fairly quiet and similar in sound level to the ear.  The difference  is in the sound itself.  The JC10 has a more bass like sound to it whereas the Cadex has a more prrrrt sound to it.  Neither is annoying or seem loudish, they just sound a little different from one another.

The big difference between the two is recharge time.  The JC10 takes a full minute to charge from empty, whereas the Cadex 4 takes 15 seconds.  I think this is a combo of factors.  The JC10 has a somewhat larger tank capicity, but the RPMs of the motor pump on the Cadex runs at twice as fast of the RPMs of the Rolair.

I'm going a bit from my memory from a few months ago when I was evaluating all this, but IIRC the Cadex is 3.8 at 90 psi whereas the Rolair is 2.3 @ 90.


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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 12:27 PM »
Based on the rpm I would also expect the jc10 to live longer or require less maintenance long term.
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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2018, 10:52 AM »
They both are fairly quiet and similar in sound level to the ear.  The difference  is in the sound itself.  The JC10 has a more bass like sound to it whereas the Cadex has a more prrrrt sound to it.  Neither is annoying or seem loudish, they just sound a little different from one another.

The big difference between the two is recharge time.  The JC10 takes a full minute to charge from empty, whereas the Cadex 4 takes 15 seconds.  I think this is a combo of factors.  The JC10 has a somewhat larger tank capicity, but the RPMs of the motor pump on the Cadex runs at twice as fast of the RPMs of the Rolair.

I'm going a bit from my memory from a few months ago when I was evaluating all this, but IIRC the Cadex is 3.8 at 90 psi whereas the Rolair is 2.3 @ 90.


Are the cut-in cut-out preassures the same?

Don't know.  I'll try to remember to look it up.
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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 08:09 PM »
Any updates?. I was lugging my Ridgid 5way around today wondering why I need such a sluggish beast. I rarely frame any more. Mostly just side and trim interior and exterior. Compressor noise really agitates me so upgrading to something quiet would be great.  Not sure the airstack is quite enough to shingle with tho.....

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Offline Scorpion

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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2018, 10:48 AM »
I got one and like it.  I did order a longer power cord since the one they provide is super short.  I got this one -  SF Cable, 15ft 14 AWG Universal Power Cord - IEC320 C13 to NEMA 5-15P SJT 15A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007O0ZJKA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LlGWBbGY6NM09.  I’m moderately irritated that they couldn’t include a longer one but a $14 solution isn’t a huge deal.

Operationally works like I wound have hoped.  I’ve used it for pinning, Brad nailing, and finish nailing so far.  I haven’t been able to throw enough nails concurrently to get anywhere near a duty cycle. 

As for loudness, it’s quieter than the pancake one I used before but not what I’d consider “quiet”.  I was actually a little surprised as to how loud it is.  The online videos must not translate.

Weight - heavier than I’d hoped.  My pancake is actually lighter I think.  Easier and less awkward to carry a systainer but, being heavier, I doubt I’ll latch a few more systainers to the top of it and gang carry them. 

Inside - I’m able to fit the new 15’ cord and a 15’ coil hose inside and latch it.  That was a nice surprise.


Overall a good buy.  Hindsight leaves me wondering if the pros are worth $500 when my $200 pancake has never let me down.  Probably the biggest benefit ended up being the Systainer format.  It does just drop into my sysport.  The pancake stored somewhat awkwardly.

Offline ProCarpenterRVA

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Re: Airstack--Any reviews ?
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 08:13 AM »
Thanks for the tip on the longer cord. I snapped one up [emoji16]

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