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Offline Steven Owen

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Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« on: July 30, 2018, 03:27 PM »
There's been a lot of criticism of T9 Boeshield on the web as of late.  It doesn't seem to perform as well as it used too; plus they keep shrinking the bottle.  Now you're paying a pretty penny for 4 oz cans.

 Ex: A lot of people have used T9 on the shaft of Festool router with limited success.  I've used it for year to lubricate the top of my table saw, planer and jointer. 

What are some of the alternatives you're using for T9?
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Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 05:00 PM »
I hope it isn't different. I still have a half can from years ago but will run out eventually. It has worked well for a non-oily protectant on hand tools and driver bits.

Most alternatives that I see suggested are for things that leave wet oil, grease, whatever on the tool. WD40 , brake fluid, hydro fluid, used motor oil, you name it. Certainly will protect against rust , but I don't need any of that non- drying stuff on my tools and then getting on everything else.

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Offline justaguy

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 05:27 PM »
I just use good old Johnson Paste wax on the cast iron tools and plunge router shafts. I apply a couple of coats at the start and end of summer. That combined with tool covers that don't trap condensation are working ok for me.

I also purchased some rechargeable gel desiccant packets that I keep in the systainers. I only have to recharge them once or twice a year.

Online Cheese

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 05:33 PM »
I use Boeshield as a dry protectant for surfaces and Dyna Glyde as a dry lubricant for sliding surfaces. So Boeshield on cast iron and Dyna Glyde on router posts. Dyna Glyde dries within 30 seconds.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 06:01 PM »
For rust protection: CRC 3-36 or fluid film, in addition to T9. Moovit for hand tools.


Online Alanbach

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 08:10 PM »
The other popular one is Bostik’s “Glide Cote”. I don’t like it quite as much as T9 because I find it harder to build a heavy coat with Glide Cote and the result can sometimes be the need to reapply more often but it works and it dries quickly and completely. BTW, I have not noticed any changes in the T9 myself. I just started a new can recently but I have had it sitting on my shelf for a while so if this is a recent formulation change it might not have hit my shop yet. Also, I checked and the 12 oz. cans still appear to be readily available on Amazon.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 08:13 PM »
Good old Johnson’s paste wax has been good enough for me and thousands of other folks for a long time.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2018, 10:29 PM »
Good old Johnson’s paste wax has been good enough for me and thousands of other folks for a long time.

Paste wax is good for me too. Boeshield and other “dry” lubes I’ve tried don’t dry hard and rub off too easilly.

Offline hdv

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 01:40 PM »
Apart from my Festool addiction/collection I am quite fond of Felder's machines. With one of them I got 2 bottles of fluids. One is called Metall Siegel (translated from German that would be Metal Seal) and the other Holz Gleit (Wood Glide or something like that). Both do their job to my satisfaction and are easy to use. No stains, no greasy hands after wiping, no trouble with finishing afterward either. So I haven't had a need to go looking for something else. Unless I learn of a better alternative here I might go with these products again when these bottles get empty sometime in the future.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2018, 10:26 AM »
Just bought a can of Boeshield along with the rust stain clean and bit cleaner (came as a kit).

 Use the cleaner to clean the rust off the top of my Jet jointer and CMS.

 Then sprayed the boeshield on.

Worked good for me.

I didnt notice any change from when I used to buy it years ago.

There was some other stuff I used to use to, cant remember the name, last time I got some I bought it from Tom Bellemare (RIP Buddy).

Let me look for it and ill post it here.

Ok found it. Used to be atop coat , I guess its now being sold as Glide coat

https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/top-cote.aspx
« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 10:40 AM by jobsworth »

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2018, 12:01 PM »
T9 works great for me and works exactly as it always has, but an alternative I also use is Dynaglide Plus Dry Lube. It even has a cleaning agent that T9 just doesn't seem to have. The stuff works great and a little goes a long way.

https://woodworker.com/dynaglide-plus-lube-spray-cleaner-14-oz-mssu-171-203.asp

It's more expensive because it's rarely on sale, Micro Fence sells it too, for 19.95:

https://microfence.com/product/dynaglide-dry-lube-spray-buy-separately-or-by-the-case/

« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 12:08 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2018, 04:34 PM »
If Dovetail likes it that’s good enough for me.

Best place to buy is here,

http://soundsynergies.net/dynaglide-tool-surface/

Same price as at Microfence but shipping is $10 less.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2018, 06:27 PM »
Yikes! I see them spraying it right on a disc sander sandpaper disc, on the paper directly? I might have to try that on some test pieces. If I could prevent gum up with just a squirt it might be worth it.

At first I thought they were spraying the table, but it sure looks like they are taking about spraying the paper disc.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 06:30 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2018, 05:33 AM »
I’ve used Boeshield and didn’t like it all that much. I bought the DynaGlide product for my Vogt shooting board. I then tried it on the shooting plane, then on my table saw, etc. The product cleans well and isn’t “gunky” like Beoshield.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2018, 09:12 AM »
LPS-3 is another choice.
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 05:34 PM »
Freshly cleaned and striped cast iron with a coating of T-9 let dry over night and then two coats of Johnson Paste Wax is how I keep all the cast iron tops in my shop in perfect shiny condition. Worked for me for years now.
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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2018, 06:03 PM »
Freshly cleaned and striped cast iron with a coating of T-9 let dry over night and then two coats of Johnson Paste Wax is how I keep all the cast iron tops in my shop in perfect shiny condition. Worked for me for years now.

For a laugh, I’ve seen people use T9 on MDF Router Table tops of all places.  I can’t imagine that would be a very good idea.  I would think the T9 would cause the laminated MDF to warp after awhile.
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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2018, 07:14 PM »
I guess it would depend on what the router table top were made of. I’ve never seen one made from MDF without some sort of plastic laminate over it but if that were the case I’m not sure how MDF would act either. I can tell you that I have outfeed tables on my table saw that are plywood covered in plastic laminate and they receive a fairly healthy helping of T9 overspray and have never shown any ill affects.

Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Alternative to T9 Boeshield
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2018, 08:48 PM »
I guess it would depend on what the router table top were made of. I’ve never seen one made from MDF without some sort of plastic laminate over it but if that were the case I’m not sure how MDF would act either. I can tell you that I have outfeed tables on my table saw that are plywood covered in plastic laminate and they receive a fairly healthy helping of T9 overspray and have never shown any ill affects.

I think you’d be safer with Paste wax on MDF Router Table top.  Even with a laminate top, I can imagine a MDF top might not react well to have numerous coats of T9 applied.
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