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Offline oneeyesquare

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2017, 10:03 AM »
I was also bummed by the dust collection outlet. Somebody dropped the ball on that one big time.

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Offline jpmeunier

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2017, 12:11 PM »
Also for those interested the height is 98mm. Sets on rubber feet so you can level it with bolt tightening.

Offline BBuild

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2017, 05:34 PM »
Spotted this today:


https://www.burnstools.com/ls1019l-10-dual-slide-compound-miter-saw

Thanks for posting that. I was the first person to buy the saw from them. I really wanted to look it over in person first so it was well worth the drive.

I'll post an update after I have a solid opinion on it's performance.
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Offline Oldwood

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2017, 11:46 AM »
Short review. Got the Makita and used all day yesterday. I'm likening it to a fully loaded truck vs the Kapex as zoomy sports.  car.
Makita cuts super smooth. Smoother than the Kapex.
I would say not as ridgid on the slide. A little drift on some big miters on 5/4 material. Not bad, just not the train track performance of the Kapex.
Laser is ok for matching miters, but no where's near the accuracy of the Kapex; however, I can see the blade of the Makita much better. Need to peruse the manual for adjustment options.
Dust collection was 80% of the Kapex. Adequate. I'm running a split hose and had tools hooked up to the other end, so on reduced suction anyway.
Did not worry one bit the motor was gonna unexpectedly grenade. That was nice.
Left it sitting on the job site with a cable through it vs. throwing it in the van. I can absorb a $540 theft loss a little bit easier than a $1600 loss; however, no local purchase options yet for the Makita.
Fixed the idiot button with some 2p-10. Grab, squeeze and cut. Like it should be. Seriously contemplating, modding the Kapex's to remove the horribly over complicated safety trigger.
The full 60 degree both ways is wonderful. I need to use that today on some 1x8 bead board at 51.5 degrees going up along a stair skirt. Should make that pretty easy.
Old Kapex will get sent in to repair head spring which no longer lifts the head. Kinda neutral at this point. That will be warranty trip #3. New Kapex is still a warranty virgin. We shall see.
If you have any questions, Ill try to answer later tonight.

Does your saw make a dragging sound when you swing the table from 90 to 45? I just pulled it out of the box and is seems to drag on the UHMW shim. Don't know if that is by design or not?

Thanks,
Gerry
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Offline Oldwood

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2017, 12:38 PM »
So to answer my own question, it is by design.

A heads up for anyone in Canada looking for this saw there are two models the 1019L and the 1019 the 1019L has the laser guide the the 1019 does not. It seems in Canada no one wants to stock the 1019L

Gerry
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Offline oneeyesquare

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2017, 09:13 PM »

Does your saw make a dragging sound when you swing the table from 90 to 45? I just pulled it out of the box and is seems to drag on the UHMW shim. Don't know if that is by design or not?

Thanks,
Gerry

It makes a zipper sound. Like a tent zipper. Smooth action. Works great!

Offline online421

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2017, 09:21 PM »
if you want the best of the best mitre saw and the saw stays stationary. go to Omga.

the whole thing is made of cast iron except the saw guard and the power on/off button

I had a T50350 and then upgraded to their double mitre saw.

You wont look at anything else ever again.

List price is $4000 USD for a base model.

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2017, 09:28 PM »
if you want the best of the best mitre saw and the saw stays stationary. go to Omga.

the whole thing is made of cast iron except the saw guard and the power on/off button

I had a T50350 and then upgraded to their double mitre saw.

You wont look at anything else ever again.

List price is $4000 USD for a base model.


The Omga 1P300 is only $1747 USD.
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Offline online421

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2017, 09:31 PM »
if you want the best of the best mitre saw and the saw stays stationary. go to Omga.

the whole thing is made of cast iron except the saw guard and the power on/off button

I had a T50350 and then upgraded to their double mitre saw.

You wont look at anything else ever again.

List price is $4000 USD for a base model.


The Omga 1P300 is only $1747 USD.

thats an option. I was referring to the T50 I had.
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Sicar TOP6
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Offline nms

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2017, 08:54 AM »
I am interested in this saw however I have seen some reviews by individuals such as the wood whisperer that state the saw doesn't stay square co-planer as the blade is slid forward.  The link below is from his video on his Instagram account.  I am wanting to get this saw but not if it can't cut square I am curious what others will say on this subject or makita dealers who carry the saw.   

https://www.instagram.com/p/BX1ZVFMhTzS/?taken-by=woodwhisperer
6:15 in the video


This is unfortunate. Why does it seem so difficult to find an accurate SCMS for a decent price?

This Makita seemed like a contender, but I'm not satisfied with the accuracy issues I keep hearing about.

I feel like there would be more side to side deflection with the way the rails are oriented on this vs the typical side by side layout in Kapex and others.

Offline Lbob131

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2017, 05:02 PM »
It sounds  like its more to do with the detent  position  being  off slightly.
For accurate cuts  I just use my slider.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2017, 05:06 PM by Lbob131 »

Offline Holmz

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2017, 05:10 PM »
I am not sure if a a pull pall is the same, it is like an upside down SCMS.

Not a cheap way to go, but for a combination of SCMS and table saw it excels.

Offline Deke

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Re: Best Miter saw options?
« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2017, 04:38 PM »
Long ago I had Kapex disease, but not the budget to match it. I ended up with a Makita 7 1/2" compound miter saw and I LOVE this thing. Yes it is small, but the cuts are fantastic and ready to go even on fine furniture. Some said this is due to the smaller blade resulting in more "teeth on wood per second." It also has pretty darn good dust collection. The latter was a big deal as I had been filling our house with dust from my basement shop. They don't make it anymore, but they now have a 8 1/2". I can't say if this is true 100%, but these smaller saws might be an option if you are primarily making furniture. Then again, maybe the larger Makitas are just as good - accurate, quality of cut and dust. There is a trick to cutting molding flat (capacity is only about 2-2 1/2" vertical), but I am ignorant of techniques crown molding. Two cents. Good luck!