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« on: June 18, 2012, 03:48 PM » |
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Anyone use the Bigfoot stuff on a worm drive, also anyone in the uk use a worm drive and how do you find it for roofing etc
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 04:11 PM » |
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Maybe not very helpful. I have seen the Bigfoot blade/guard used on worm drive saws in Fine Homebuilding magazines. Pictures in articles show the saw with this aftermarket blade/guard attached. Usually in the process of cutting 3 or 4 rafters at once. I get the impression its commonly used by professional framers/roofers on the west coast. Wormdrive saws being more common to the west coast builder and sidewinders being more common to the east coast builder. For whatever reason.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 03:15 PM » |
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Surely someone must use em?
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 02:24 AM » |
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Can anyone recommend a forum I can get answers on this please
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 02:57 AM » |
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I've owned the BigFoot with the Bosch for over five years. It's awesome! Plenty of power to cut through anything you could imagine. Make sure to use a carbide blade.
Honestly... Having used both styles of saws for many years, I can't imagine how or why everyone doesn't use wormdrives for framing and heavier construction needs. They have so much more power and control in my opinion. Wormdrives weigh considerably more, but if you use the saw properly, gravity does the work for you. Overhead work is a different story. If you have any specific questions about the BigFoot, let me know....
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 08:12 AM » |
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Dean, try the JLC framing forum ( search for Journal Light Construction online ). While you're there, look for former FOGger Tom Bainbridge. He now has a wormdrive and uses it for roof framing. I believe he is located in Kent, in case that is close to you. I have a Skil wormdrive which was my grandfather's. It's the saw we use if we have to cut anything more than 2x4's. Like Evergreen said, the weight of the saw is an advantage and makes it easier to use compared to a sidewinder. I havent used a Bigfoot so can't comment on that brand other than to say I've read posts where framers say they use the tools. You might already have their website? http://bigfootsaws.com/index.html |
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 08:17 AM » |
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Dean, here it is. You'll find a lot of guys around who still do real roof framing, and they are generous with their advice. There was a well- respected member of the forum who sadly now is deceased, but he had tons of roof framing info, math and layout tips, etc. Search at JLC and on the web for anything by Joe Fusco He also had a lot of videos on YouTube. http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?11-Rough-Framing |
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 12:41 PM » |
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Thanks for that, I'm after 1for gang cutting the birds mouths. Next problem is getting some one to send me 1
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 04:45 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . |
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2012, 07:41 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . Dang, I might have to pick that up for framing/remodeling. On another note, how the heck is it possible that a saw like that can be approved in NA, but the Carvex, CMS, etc., etc. doesn't pass the "safety standards"? |
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2012, 08:01 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . Dang, I might have to pick that up for framing/remodeling. On another note, how the heck is it possible that a saw like that can be approved in NA, but the Carvex, CMS, etc., etc. doesn't pass the "safety standards"? I didn't see anything on the web site that suggested they had UL approval. For our overseas friends, in the US, UL is an arm of the insurance industry, not the government. If you injure yourself with a tool that lacks UL approval, the insurance companies feel justified in not paying your claim. So then you probably sue the manufacturer. Many small companies here are classified as Limited Liability Companies (LLC), which offers them some degree of protection against lawsuits. Just saying..... |
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2012, 08:06 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2012, 08:16 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . Dang, I might have to pick that up for framing/remodeling. On another note, how the heck is it possible that a saw like that can be approved in NA, but the Carvex, CMS, etc., etc. doesn't pass the "safety standards"?Who said they don't have U.L. approval? |
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 08:20 PM » |
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I know there's a guard, but did anyone else flinch when he dropped it between his legs
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2012, 08:34 PM » |
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I didn't see anything on the web site that suggested they had UL approval. For our overseas friends, in the US, UL is an arm of the insurance industry, not the government. If you injure yourself with a tool that lacks UL approval, the insurance companies feel justified in not paying your claim. So then you probably sue the manufacturer. Many small companies here are classified as Limited Liability Companies (LLC), which offers them some degree of protection against lawsuits.
Just saying.....
LLC doesn't provide any special protection against lawsuits against the company. It does theoretically make it somewhat harder to sue the owners of the company than some other forms of incorporation do. http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/539033.htmlSo you would still sue the company unless it was apparent the assets were essentially non-existent. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2012, 09:54 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . Dang, I might have to pick that up for framing/remodeling. On another note, how the heck is it possible that a saw like that can be approved in NA, but the Carvex, CMS, etc., etc. doesn't pass the "safety standards"?Who said they don't have U.L. approval? Sorry, it was my understanding that the main reason there were so many useful tools that are NAINA was because of a lack of approval from the insurance committee. I may have been guilty of spreading unfounded claims if this isn't the case...  |
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2012, 10:32 PM » |
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to: DEANSOCIAL. I recently saw this and it might be of interest to you. www.straightflushsaw.com and straightflushsaw promo in www. You Tube.com . Dang, I might have to pick that up for framing/remodeling. On another note, how the heck is it possible that a saw like that can be approved in NA, but the Carvex, CMS, etc., etc. doesn't pass the "safety standards"?Who said they don't have U.L. approval? Sorry, it was my understanding that the main reason there were so many useful tools that are NAINA was because of a lack of approval from the insurance committee. I may have been guilty of spreading unfounded claims if this isn't the case... It's common to hear that, but there are a host of possible reasons and sometimes a lot to be read in silence no matter what company and product. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2012, 02:50 AM » |
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As awesome as they are they cost thousands. Looked at them before. Must be £6000 worth of kit there |
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 08:05 AM » |
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Any of the us dealers willing to send 1 to the uk  |
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 07:59 AM » |
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I'll take that as a no then.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2012, 08:24 AM » |
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I'll take that as a no then.
Maybe the deafening silence is due to a lot of activity on the phones to suppliers and international freight forwarders  |
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2012, 08:53 AM » |
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hey kev i think you might be right. i think all the dealers are pulling together to make this happen for me
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2012, 10:19 AM » |
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Do any Bigfoot dealers even sell Festool? Or read this forum out of envy curiosity?
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2012, 10:59 AM » |
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No idea, but was hoping so done would be able to help me out. Unless anyone can suggest a saw that swings over to 75°
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2012, 07:05 PM » |
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what are you trying to do dean . maybe we can find another way.
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2012, 08:01 PM » |
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what are you trying to do dean . maybe we can find another way.
Ya, surely someone around you has a chainsaw!  |
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2012, 03:57 AM » |
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what are you trying to do dean . maybe we can find another way.
I want 1 for gang cutting rafters. As at the moment I can gang cut birds mouths on 35° plus but not lower.i want ahead cutter aswell for the head cuts. The protool would do for that but is limited to 200mm cut which is a 150mm rafter really. |
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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2012, 11:29 AM » |
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A couple of things:
1. I covered my keyboard in drool watching those mafell tools in action.
2. Bigfoot tools will do the same thing for 1/8th the cost. It will take two passes for the bird's mouth.
I have the bigfoot 10 1/4" saw as well as the swing table on a skil 77m and I love the saw (get the diablo blade). I would suggest geting the kit and either a skil 77m or bosch 1670m to go with it. There is no need for the extra weight of the 77hd.
I can't coment on the head cutter other than to say that it wont be as comfortable to use as the mafell, but you have unlimited power and bar length by attaching it to a chain saw.
let me know if you need help on your quest. I'd be happy to ship kit to you.
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2012, 12:21 PM » |
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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2012, 01:03 PM » |
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The History Channel has a lot more info about Bigfoot that you are not considering  . Rumor and some plaster casts show that his Domino is much bigger than even the XL... careful what you ask for. Cheers, Steve |
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