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Offline 3mbjts

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Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« on: October 15, 2010, 09:22 AM »
Has anyone used a dust level sensor with their cyclone dust collectors? If so, any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks, Mike

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Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 04:46 PM »
I have one I got from Penn state.  Coincidentally it just quit working a couple days ago.  Besides that it works fine.  It has a plastic paddle that turns continuously until it meets resistance from the rising level of sawdust.  when the paddle meets resistance or stops, it sounds a buzzer or it can be set up to trigger a light.  I just left mine with the internal buzzer.  Mine is on Penn state's 35 gallon drum.  It does go off before the drum is full.  I have been planning on experimenting with the paddle to shorten it so I doesn't buzz as early.   I just haven't taken the time to experiment.

Also I haven't taken the time yet to see why mine quit working.  It buzzes still with resistance on the paddle, but it quit turning.  I'm not sure if the motor that turns it is shot or if something is loose.  I've had it about 5 years and it is turning all the time when my shop lights are on.  They are 79.95 and you can get a 110 or 220 model depending on your needs.  Mine is 110 and is plugged into a socket on the overhead lights.

I am happy with how it works and will probably replace it with the same thing unless someone chimes in on here with a better idea.  I'm not familiar with anything else that is available.

One suggestion.  If you get one and mount it, keep it away form the outside of the drum.  I use bags inside my drum which are retained to the wall of the drum with a sheet of thick plastic rolled into a circle (also sold at penn state).  I mounted my sensor a little too close and if the retaining piece of plastic isn't tight to the wall, it can hit the sensor paddle making it buzz.  Usually this happens when you install a new bag.  Once you adjust it correctly it is fine.  But If I had put the sensor a little closer to the center it would be more fool proof.

Hope that helps.
Wayne

 

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Offline kcufstoidi

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 07:08 PM »
Oneida has just come out with an  infrared level sensor. Don't have any info on it, just saw an ad in a trade mag. Might try there website for more info.

John

Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 07:23 PM »
I looked on the Oneida site and couldn't find it but just looked and here it is.

http://store.oneida-air.com/dustsentry.aspx

It's a little more money but no moving parts and adjustable sensitivity.  I think I am going to order one and try it out.

Wayne

 

TS 55, CT 33 x2, ROTEX 150, RO 90, DOMINO 500Q SET, TRION PS 300, OF 1400, MFT/3, ETS 150/3, KAPEX KS 120, DOMINO XL.

Offline 3mbjts

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 08:42 PM »
The Penn State and the Oneida ones were the two that I have read about. My concern with the Penn State model was the fact that the paddle was continuously moving and how durable it was. The Oneida model is new with no reviews to speak of. also there is the price. I have had great experiences with Oneida products, so may have to invest in their model. I don't want to have  the filter get all plugged with saw dust again. It was no fun to clean.
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Offline NuggyBuggy

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 09:24 PM »
I assume we're all emptying our bins after each session like they tell us to... [laughing]
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Offline ossietim

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 12:58 AM »
Wnagle I' not familar with the Penn state model.I do have the Fine-Tek which is the same as you describe.(see attatchment).They are sold and re-named by many manufacturers.eg binmaster.

I also had a motor go out and was able to procure another from the manufacture in china. contact claire.huang@fine-tek.com
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Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 09:52 PM »
Thanks for the info!  I don't know if I will try to fix it or not.  I like the idea of the infrared sensor better than the moving parts.  I haven't had time to call Oneida yet about theirs.  I was at the Gary Katz Roadshow all day at Hartville Hardware. It was a good time!
Wayne

 

TS 55, CT 33 x2, ROTEX 150, RO 90, DOMINO 500Q SET, TRION PS 300, OF 1400, MFT/3, ETS 150/3, KAPEX KS 120, DOMINO XL.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 11:52 PM »
I looked on the Oneida site and couldn't find it but just looked and here it is.

http://store.oneida-air.com/dustsentry.aspx

It's a little more money but no moving parts and adjustable sensitivity.  I think I am going to order one and try it out.



Heck I need that for my CT 33's more than my cyclone. That would have a been a great option for Festool.
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Offline Aegwyn11

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 12:08 PM »
Do it yourself...as usual Oneida is late to the game and overpriced. If I'm looking at the Oneida correctly, all it does is flash a strobe for $140 (don't forget the $10 shipping)?? This DIY photosensor based system can trigger a strobe and cut power to your cyclone, among other things. Only real "wear" item is a lightbulb, but I got around that by using a LED lightbulb. Worst case, if the bulb dies, the system just won't let the cyclone turn on.

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« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 12:10 PM by Aegwyn11 »
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Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 09:07 AM »
Well I ordered the Oneida Dust Sentry.  The web site states a 2 to 3 week wait.  I'll report back when I get it up and running.
Wayne

 

TS 55, CT 33 x2, ROTEX 150, RO 90, DOMINO 500Q SET, TRION PS 300, OF 1400, MFT/3, ETS 150/3, KAPEX KS 120, DOMINO XL.

Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 04:41 PM »
My Oneida order came a couple days ago, a little quicker than expected.  I have the dust sentry installed now but will have to make some more dust to see how well it works!
Wayne

 

TS 55, CT 33 x2, ROTEX 150, RO 90, DOMINO 500Q SET, TRION PS 300, OF 1400, MFT/3, ETS 150/3, KAPEX KS 120, DOMINO XL.

Offline Phred

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 08:39 PM »
Hi Wayne:

Any impressions yet of the Dust Sentry in action?

Thanks in advance,
Fred

Offline Greg Powers

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 12:11 AM »
Anyone using the Grizzly cyclone dust collectors? The prices look very reasonable. Looks like you get a lot more for your money  over the Oneida products.
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 12:17 AM »
I have a Grizzly cyclone 3HP.

I am very happy. When I use it the shop stays dustless. So no matter the specs or what may  be advertised as better, for me in my shop 100% dust collection is 100%.

I guess I sized it right and got the correct fittings. I just do not think that I would ever have to change from the Grizzly. It is perfect.

I guess if I ever got a larger shop I could get a bigger unit, but I think I would stay with Grizzly and just go to the 5HP.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2011, 12:23 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline wnagle

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Re: Cyclone Dust Collection dust level Sensor
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2011, 01:43 PM »
Hi Wayne:

Any impressions yet of the Dust Sentry in action?

Thanks in advance,
Fred

Fred, 

I've been out of the shop since I installed it and haven't filled the can to test it out yet!  I'm sure it will work fine but I don't know how full the can will be when it goes off.  The level is adjustable on the sensor and also on how deep it's mounted.  So if it is off I can do some adjusting.  I really need to get out in the shop and make some dust!
Wayne

 

TS 55, CT 33 x2, ROTEX 150, RO 90, DOMINO 500Q SET, TRION PS 300, OF 1400, MFT/3, ETS 150/3, KAPEX KS 120, DOMINO XL.