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Offline JLMS2010

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Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« on: November 08, 2017, 08:59 PM »
Hello everybody.  I was hoping to get some opinions on 2 dust collectors I'm looking at purchase for my garage.  I'm looking at the Laguna 1.5HP & Jet 1.5HP.  It will be in my garage.  I'm going to get getting a table saw around the same time.  The dust collector will be used for the table saw, router and my kapex.  All my other festool tools I'll have hooked up to the CT26e.  I don't have a jointer or planer yet.  I would say eventually I'll add those.  I'm the only one who uses this, so it would most likely be just 1 tool at a time being used.  I have a Jet AFS 1000B mounted in the ceiling.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.  The garage is wired for 110, but I'll probably have to add another circuit.  Thanks everybody! 

https://lagunatools.com/classic-machinery/dust-collectors/cflux-1-5-hp-cyclone/
http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/jcdc-1-5-cyclone-dust-collector-1-5hp-115v/717515

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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 09:13 PM »
Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it. Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida.

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Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 09:26 PM »
Thanks.  I'll check that one out as well.  I was looking at Jet & Laguna because I heard they would be on sale for Black Friday. 

Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 09:23 AM »
Something to consider when comparing dust collectors is how much you anticipate moving it around your garage. I see  a lot of guys using portable units as de facto stationary units, which is fine if that was your original intention.

What I like about the Mini Gorilla is, due to its tripod design, it is very stable, has a small footprint, and is very easy for me to wheel around my shop. I had originally looked at machines like the Laguna and Jet, but they looked awkward and unwieldy to quickly move around.

Oneida regularly has sales on various classes of dust extractors, it wouldn't hurt to call them and inquire if they have any sales coming up.
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Offline bnaboatbuilder

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 09:29 AM »
That Mini Gorilla has low CFM at 583. A Jet 1100 series model is twice that CFM at less than half the cost.
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Offline RobBob

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 09:32 AM »
I have been very happy with my Laguna Pflux Hepa 3hp.  Some people claim that the shorter cyclone design used by Laguna and other manufacturers can reduce effective separation of fines from larger dust particles and cause the filter to clog faster.  This seems to only apply to the 3hp models and up.  One test I saw mentioned how good the dust separation was on the 1.5hp model you are looking at.

The separation on mine works great.  Some written articles on dust collection even claim that a clean filter reduces the effectiveness of the filter to capture the finest dust particles.  In other words, the filter needs to be somewhat dirty so that the smallest dust particles do not slip through the filter.  For the larger hp collectors, Laguna offers an additional part that simply bolts under the lid of the dust barrel making proper separation a non-issue.  (I think this may act as a sort of Thien baffle.) 

In any case, always use a dust collector, air filter, and dust mask.
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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 10:11 AM »
If you're looking to keep the cost down, do consider Grizzly.  I have a G1029 that I bought in 1991, I've gone through multiple table saws and jointers but this is the one constant in my shop.  It's proven to be a workhorse.  There is literally thousands of hours on it and the only thing I've had to do was tighten the impeller bolts twice.  It's on sale now for $325 and interestingly, I paid the same price 26 years ago.  It is 240V so you'll need to wire for it.  There are other smaller units available but I wouldn't go any smaller than this, for future expansion.
For some time, I've been thinking about upgrading to a stationary 2 stage cyclone.  Like you, I've been researching other brands.  But I think I'd be crazy to consider any other brand, given the service mine's given me.

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Offline jyarbrou

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 10:36 AM »
That Mini Gorilla has low CFM at 583. A Jet 1100 series model is twice that CFM at less than half the cost.

Not really an apples to apples comparison based off theoretical CFM. You'd need to compare the curve diagrams for each. The Mini Gorilla is 583 CFM at 2" static pressure. The fan curve for the Jet shows at the same static pressure it's only ~350CFM. Oneida does a really good job of defining real world numbers in their marketing where a lot of the others market free fan CFM.
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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 11:16 AM »
Personally I’m trying to decide between the Pflux 1.5 and the Mini Gorilla.  I want the winner to be the quieter unit but I don’t really have a way to determine that lol.
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Offline jacko9

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 11:30 AM »
I have the Oneida Air Systems V-3000 in my garage shop and it is very very effective and quiet.

Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 11:34 AM »
Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

Offline jacko9

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 12:23 PM »
Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

I operated my shop for 30 years without a main dust system but when I finally installed my Oneida V-3000 HEPA system I can't believe how clean my shop is (and I'm sure my lungs as well).  I have it mounted on one wall with a 35 gallon bucket under it (which is mounted on wheels).  I also bought the sensor that alarms with a strobe light you when you get to the fill level you set.  I hardly ever find much very fine dust in the HEPA section.  The separation is very effective and a white glove swipe on surfaces show just how good their system really is.

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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2017, 01:44 PM »
Thank you all for the opinions. 

I would imagine it would be stationary most of the time.  Occasionally moving it around the garage.  The one thing I was looking for was at least a 1 micron filter or better HEPA.  I realize this comes with a cost though. 

It did seem like it was easy to get HEPA Oneida filters.  It seems like HEPA filters are hard to find for the Jet and Laguna.  Unless I overlooked something. lol

Keep in mind too that the published performance curves for the Jet and Laguna are figured using their stock filters. I'd expect to see a drop in performance if you fit them with a HEPA filter, particularly the Jet since it ships with a 1 micron filter.
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Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2017, 02:01 PM »
Thanks.  Yes, I'll keep that in mind.  I'm not too concerned with the CFM.  All of these machines will be plenty for only using 1 tool at a time.  Lol

Offline JSlovic

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2017, 07:59 PM »
I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-
Very happy with it. I only use it on one machine at a time, and find it easy to reposition in my shop.
The only complaint is there's a frame in dust bin to keep the bag from collapsing that assembled with a bunch of M3 (?) screws they didn't use lockwashers on and they vibrated loose during shipment. I gave them a healthy dose of Locktite and they haven't budged since.

Offline mark60

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2017, 08:34 PM »
I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. I only use it for one tool at a time and it's plenty for my Sawstop, bandsaw, and router table.

Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 06:45 AM »
I bought the 1.5 P Flux last year during the black Friday sale and have been very happy with it. I only use it for one tool at a time and it's plenty for my Sawstop, bandsaw, and router table.

I've got the 110V predecessor of the Laguna cflux-
Very happy with it. I only use it on one machine at a time, and find it easy to reposition in my shop.
The only complaint is there's a frame in dust bin to keep the bag from collapsing that assembled with a bunch of M3 (?) screws they didn't use lockwashers on and they vibrated loose during shipment. I gave them a healthy dose of Locktite and they haven't budged since.

Thank you for your input!
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Offline JBag09

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2017, 07:39 PM »
Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna. http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.


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Offline RobBob

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2017, 07:46 PM »
Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna. http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.


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@JBag09  What comes standard on the JDS and is an option on the Laguna?

The only option I am aware of for the Laguna is an automatic filter cleaner and those are not recommended for HEPA filters.

Offline JBag09

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2017, 08:19 PM »
@RobBob

Ya that was the option I was referring to. And I’ll admit I was not aware about the paddles not being recommended for a HEPA filter. 
I guess I can give my honest opinion in a few months on how the JDS works.


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Offline Teeravis

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2017, 09:05 PM »
I would second this, I just bought one myself and love it.

Another contender to consider is the Oneida Air Systems 1.5hp Mini Gorilla. I just bought one a few weeks ago and have been very happy with it. Relatively quiet, good build quality, good performance, sturdy, and great support from Oneida.

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Offline J0hn

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2017, 09:34 PM »
Have any of you guys checked out JDS dust collectors. I recently ordered one after doing a lot of research, waiting on it due to backorder. Some of the things it comes standard with, seem to be options on the Laguna. http://jdstools.com/product/2hp-cyclone-2100-ckv/
Have never really looked at Jet DCs Maybe worth a look.


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I have had the 3 hp version of the JDS for about 3 1/2 years now and have been very pleased with the purchase.  At one point the JDS and Laguna looked exactly the same and at the time the JDS did come with some options that were included that Laguna charged for (I think the remote was one of them) 

Mine does have the 'automatic filter cleaner' and be honest - it is so annoying that I disconnected it.  Every time you shut off the system, it would run and makes a heck of a racket

Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 07:26 PM »
I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 07:30 PM by JLMS2010 »

Offline RobBob

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 07:46 PM »
I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

Wow.  Ouch!   [eek]

Doesn't Wynn make filters of any size to order?

Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2017, 07:58 PM »
I'm not sure.  I would think if they can make any size they should be able to.

Offline jacko9

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2017, 08:07 PM »
I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...

I've have not had to replace my filter on my V-3000 it hardly ever gets dirty.  The cyclone really does a great job and the ultra fines in the filter are easily cleaned out every six months or so (depending on use).  Even when I do decide to clean out the filter it is not clogged at all and there is never more than a few cups of ultra fines in there.  The V-3000 is a great system, I only wished that I got it years ago.  I don't use the remote even though I bought two of them I just hang one on the unit and turn it on or off as I walk by.  The option that I find the most useful is the sensor to let you know when it's time to empty the waste bin.  You can set it to trigger at any distance from the top of the waste can but I have it trigger with two inches left to keep debris from overflowing into the filter unit.  The strobe light is very easy to notice and with the proper clearance setting you can finish the cuts your making before emptying the unit.  I have the 35 gal cardboard can that is one good wheel barrel full to bring out to my compost pile.

Offline mwildt

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2017, 08:27 PM »
Interesting thread. For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ?


Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2017, 08:52 PM »
Interesting thread. For those with these nice dust collectors would you mind commenting on the capacity of the bin ? How fast do they get filled when planing or jointing ?

I have the 120v Mini Gorilla, which ships with a moulded 22 gallon bin. I have not had a chance to really put it through its paces quite yet. That being said, something to think about is that while the larger bins will allow you to work longer between empties, the larger bins also means larger and heavier dust bags. Given that I am generally processing relatively short runs of materials, I opted for a relatively smaller, more compact bin that keeps the overall footprint of the collector to a minimum. In the occasional event that I am filling multiple bins in a day, the relatively low cost of the liner bags (I think they're around $0.89/bag) still makes this an economical proposition. That's my $0.02  [big grin]
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Offline jacko9

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2017, 11:50 PM »
I have the 35 gal. container and it's good for a couple hundred BF of lumber depending on how much stock your taking off.  I purchase all lumber rough cut so I have  a lot more chips to collect to get to finished size (I get much straighter stock this way).  I have my barrel on the mobile stand so I can release the quick disconnect and drop the barrel to wheels free to recycle.

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2017, 02:20 AM »
I spoke to both Laguna and Oneida reps. Both were very very helpful. I will say Oneida seemed more interested in earning my business than Laguna.  After speaking to Oneida I may go with the V3000 system.  The only thing I don’t like is the remote is a $80 option with Oneida.  I feel at these prices that should be included.

I'm not sure how often these filters will need to be replaced, but the Laguna HEPA on the P Flux I was told is $650.  Oneida is ~$250...


An Oneida rep called me up, this Friday, coincidentally. 
I fail to remember her name but she was definitely the most uncannily knowledged
salesperson I've ever spoken to.  I was beyond impressed.
Also ran, if you've got the available amps, get an Oneida and be done with it.

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Offline JBag09

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2017, 09:11 PM »
I was looking at some Jet and Laguna DCs earlier today, and the way my new shop will be set up I just couldn’t decide if they would work. What’s everyone opinion on the Clearvue Cyclones? I think they are a bit expensive for what they are, but everyone that has them seem to rave over them

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Offline JLMS2010

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2017, 09:34 PM »
I wonder if you spoke to the same lady I did. Yes, she was extremely knowledgeable. I’m leaning heavily towards Oneida.

Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2017, 09:38 PM »
Not sure if this helps, but this might help demonstrate the relatively small footprint the Mini Gorilla occupies. Love the extractor so far, now considering a Dust Cobra for my smaller tools....

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Offline RogerConnerTN

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2017, 01:06 AM »
My shop has four Jet dust collectors, including three of the 1.5 HP dust collectors.  We are a coop shop with a lot of members who come in at off hours and  . . . let's say use the equipment very hard.  These dust collectors have survived and thrived despite a lot of abuse!  Don't know anything about the Laguna rig, but I wouldn't change brands if I needed to add one. 

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2017, 07:27 AM »
i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?


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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2017, 07:56 AM »
i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?


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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2017, 08:44 AM »
i had been looking pretty hard at the 1.5 pFlux, but since i'll only be using it on one tool at a time, the mini gorilla is becoming more and more attractive. I'm planning on ordering one soon.

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?


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When I purchased my Mini Gorilla, Oneida recommended using the largest possible diameter hose, and reducing at the tool. I opted to go with a 5” diameter, 12’ long flex hose with a 5”-to-4” reducer at the tool-end of the hose.

that actually works perfectly, my TS has a 4 inch outlet, but my bandsaw is 5. So it sounds a little dumb to reduced it at the cyclone only to re-enlarge it at the bandsaw. Might as well just put a 5-4 reducer at the table saw.


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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2017, 10:08 AM »

i know this has been discussed, but i have the attention span of a kitten. What makes more sense, run the largest diameter hose up to the tool, then reduce, or reduce at the inlet of the cyclone?


When I purchased my Mini Gorilla, Oneida recommended using the largest possible diameter hose, and reducing at the tool. I opted to go with a 5” diameter, 12’ long flex hose with a 5”-to-4” reducer at the tool-end of the hose.

that actually works perfectly, my TS has a 4 inch outlet, but my bandsaw is 5. So it sounds a little dumb to reduced it at the cyclone only to re-enlarge it at the bandsaw. Might as well just put a 5-4 reducer at the table saw.


My table saw, planer & band saw all sit within a few feet of each other. The table saw & planer both have 4" outlets, while the band saw is 2 1/2". By running 4" hose all the way from my Jet, I can easily swap between the table saw & planer. Then when I use the band saw, I just add a simple 4" to 2 1/2" adapter.

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2017, 01:39 PM »
Just found out, well had to call them and ask, that JDS dust collectors are no more. So guess I’ll be searching again for a DC, think I’m going to look at the Oneida V-System 5000, was going to look at Clearvue but they are a bit much and can’t seem to find any discounts.


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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 02:55 PM »
A couple of years ago I decided to upgrade my dust collection. I'm just a hobbyist (one man shop).  Was going to buy the Oneida V2000. The chap at Oneida that I talked with agreed that the 2Hp would be sufficient, but the 3HP model was on sale that week for less than $100 over the 2HP.  So I went that route and could not be happier. I've dealt with Oneida many times over the years and have nothing but good things to say about them.

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Re: Dust Collector for garage. Laguna or Jet
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 03:27 PM »
I looked at the ClearVue - just couldn't make it work.  I have a 3 stall garage that I didn't want to turn into a dedicated woodshop....   I even created a 3d diagram in sketchup to see the various ways to run the ducting from a small 'shed' that I was going to build behind the garage, and finally decided that it was not the way I wanted to go



That is when I decided on the Laguna/JDS type system.  If I am doing other things in my garage - working on cars or my motorcycle or heaven forbid, actually park cars in there, I can get all my tools into the single stall which leaves me with the two stalls open.  Works for me - something to think about