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Offline jdw101

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Hi all,

I have been saving a while for the Mafell p1cc jig saw and it was around 1300 dollars for the starter setup I wanted, with the tilting base, a single rail and the saw.  I found someone on Ebay selling a kit which includes the saw, the tilting base and a single FS80 rail kit for 668.00 USD with 58.00 shipping from Europe.  So that ended up being about 325 dollars cheaper than I could get from the sole dealer here in the US.

It's nearly half the price of the kit so it's worth the gamble.  I used paypal so I am safe there and the people selling them have thousands of sales and good feedback, I had much communication with them so I feel like I've done my homework.  Anyway I will probably not see it for at least a few weeks but when I do I will report back and do the photos etc.  One thing to note is that it is a 110v so that is good but the power plug will be the UK model so I will need to use a single plug adapter or wire a new one.  Haven't decided yet, going to wait to see it first.

Very excited to get this saw, I've been wanting it for over a year and just everything was in the way of it.  Finding it this much cheaper allowed me to get it much earlier.

Here is the listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mafell-P1cc-MaxiMax-GB-110V-Pendulum-Jigsaw-Tilting-Plate-F80-Guide-Rail-Kit-/122364221842?hash=item1c7d79d992:g:1c0AAOSwB-1YqzjG

I will be sure to share any info I have and when I get it do a detailed report. 


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Offline jdw101

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Just an update, the item took 3 days to get from the UK and it showed up pristine, rail was not damaged, saw and tilting plate was in perfect condition.  I ran to home depot tonight and picked up a nema 115v cord end and connected it.  Fired up perfectly, smooth and wonderful.  The only downside was having to wire a USA plug on it, for 325 dollars in savings I'll take the 4 dollar part and 10 minutes.

Very excited!  Highly recommended.

Offline rizzoa13

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I ordered one from thet seller about 12 hours after you posted it 🤣. We're a bunch of grown men with some serious issues.

Offline grobkuschelig

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Hi guys,

First of all congrats to calming your tool-addiction for a couple of days with a new purchase. [emoji12]

Please leave a feedback on how you like the p1cc. If you have used it, also compared to the festool 420...

Offline ChrisK1970

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Just an update, the item took 3 days to get from the UK and it showed up pristine, rail was not damaged, saw and tilting plate was in perfect condition.  I ran to home depot tonight and picked up a nema 115v cord end and connected it.  Fired up perfectly, smooth and wonderful.  The only downside was having to wire a USA plug on it, for 325 dollars in savings I'll take the 4 dollar part and 10 minutes.

Very excited!  Highly recommended.

Did you end up having to pay taxes and import fees through customs?
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Offline jpmeunier

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That deal on the MT55 is awesome, almost makes me regret my T55Req purchase. 2 1600mm rails would be nice.

Offline duburban

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FYI, paypal does not make you safe! They just helped someone scam me out of 800...
helper: i used a festool "circular saw" to do something simple and it made it really hard

me: exactly, it makes simple cuts complicated and complicated cuts simple

Offline JimH2

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Anyone looking at prices in Europe will find the prices to be cheaper than what we pay in the US for the same item. The European tool makers kept their prices the same or raised them even as the Euro's value plummeted from $1.50 US to around $1.10. Of course we will never get that rate, but the actual rate will be very close. Unfortunately the dealer posting those items to eBay probably will be shut down by Mafell as they are selling out of their market area. It is always best to not broadcast these finds here or any other public site because eventually it will ruin it for everybody else.

Offline Kerrlicious

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Duly Noted

Offline Michael Kellough

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Anyone looking at prices in Europe will find the prices to be cheaper than what we pay in the US for the same item. The European tool makers kept their prices the same or raised them even as the Euro's value plummeted from $1.50 US to around $1.10. Of course we will never get that rate, but the actual rate will be very close. Unfortunately the dealer posting those items to eBay probably will be shut down by Mafell as they are selling out of their market area. It is always best to not broadcast these finds here or any other public site because eventually it will ruin it for everybody else.

Really? I don't know the prices of Mafell accessories here but I followed the OP's link and noticed that a pack of two blades for the P1cc costs $50. For two jigsaw blades?!!

Offline Brice Burrell

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Anyone looking at prices in Europe will find the prices to be cheaper than what we pay in the US for the same item. The European tool makers kept their prices the same or raised them even as the Euro's value plummeted from $1.50 US to around $1.10. Of course we will never get that rate, but the actual rate will be very close. Unfortunately the dealer posting those items to eBay probably will be shut down by Mafell as they are selling out of their market area. It is always best to not broadcast these finds here or any other public site because eventually it will ruin it for everybody else.

Really? I don't know the prices of Mafell accessories here but I followed the OP's link and noticed that a pack of two blades for the P1cc costs $50. For two jigsaw blades?!!

$49 from this ebay seller and $46 from Toolnut.
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Offline ben_r_

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Dang thats a great price! Is there a listing for just the saw though without the rail and accessory? I dont need a rail for a jigsaw.

And what was the deal on the MT55?
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Offline Svar

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The only downside was having to wire a USA plug on it
The other downside is voiding your warranty. Moreover, the manufacturer may refuse to service UK purchased tool in US at all due to liability issues.

Offline McNally Family

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The only downside was having to wire a USA plug on it
The other downside is voiding your warranty. Moreover, the manufacturer may refuse to service UK purchased tool in US at all due to liability issues.

While the discounted price is nice, and hard to argue with in the short term, I also did not notice the Mafell logo on the sellers website.  This would indicate to me that they are not an authorized dealer and could lead to trouble should repair be needed.  Speaking of which, shipping back to England for repair would be expensive. 

Needless to say the OP is happy and I am happy for him.  There is no denying he has gotten a better price than I did, particularly since I purchased all my accessories separate from the tool (cringing while I do the math in my head).

I am just not brave enough to spend that kind of money without an ironclad assurance of full warranty protection and solid dealer representation here in this country.  My hat is off to jdw101, and I hope he enjoys his wonderful new Mafell jig saw! 
GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | OF 1400 EQ Router (metric) w/accessories | FS1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail (x1) | MFT FX Set | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: // Mafell P1cc  //  MT55cc  // Next purchase: TBD

Offline McNally Family

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Anyone looking at prices in Europe will find the prices to be cheaper than what we pay in the US for the same item. The European tool makers kept their prices the same or raised them even as the Euro's value plummeted from $1.50 US to around $1.10. Of course we will never get that rate, but the actual rate will be very close. Unfortunately the dealer posting those items to eBay probably will be shut down by Mafell as they are selling out of their market area. It is always best to not broadcast these finds here or any other public site because eventually it will ruin it for everybody else.

Really? I don't know the prices of Mafell accessories here but I followed the OP's link and noticed that a pack of two blades for the P1cc costs $50. For two jigsaw blades?!!

$49 from this ebay seller and $46 from Toolnut.


As with any jig saw, all blades are not created equal, with each serving a different purpose using either a different tooth design or length or thickness.  The blades you are pointing out as being expensive (Jig saw blade CUnex W1, 2 pieces), are the patented Mafell blades that can only be used with the P1cc (they are essentially two blades welded together to create one very stiff unbendable blade).       
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 02:59 PM by McNally Family »
GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | OF 1400 EQ Router (metric) w/accessories | FS1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail (x1) | MFT FX Set | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: // Mafell P1cc  //  MT55cc  // Next purchase: TBD

Offline Svar

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The blades you are pointing out as being expensive are the patented Mafell blades that can only be used with the P1cc (they are essentially two blades welded together to create one very stiff unbendable blade).     
I thought that the shank is still standard and only the cutting part is thicker. I.e. you can stick Mafell blade into Bosch saw and vice versa. Is this correct? Sorry for hijacking the thread.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 03:12 PM by Svar »

Offline McNally Family

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The blades you are pointing out as being expensive are the patented Mafell blades that can only be used with the P1cc (they are essentially two blades welded together to create one very stiff unbendable blade).     
I thought that the shank is still standard and only the cutting part is thicker. I.e. you can stick Mafell blade into Bosch saw and vice versa.

Looking at the Mafell W1 blade here in front of me, it does look as if it is just two blades together, on the cutting side only, with the back of the blade looking more like a single blade width.  As for the shank of the blade, it does appear to have an extra layer of support on both sides of the blade (enough so that your fingernail will catch on both sides).  As for what appears to be the second layer of the blade, extra support does extend down at least 2/3 of the shank, but narrower than the standard width of the blade.  I suspect the unique lack of a roller bar on the Mafell jig saw, is what prevents anyone from using this particular blade on other jig saws, Bosch included (at least that is my understanding).
GREEN: In order of purchase = C18 5.2 Set w/Centrotec Installer's Set | CT26 w/Installer Cleaning Set | RS 2 E | Hose w/ Sleeve 3.5m | 115mm X 226mm Hand Sanding Block | 80mm X 133mm Hand Sanding Block | HSK D21.5 5m hose | CT Boom Arm Bundle Set |  Won the CXS Li 2.6 90 Limited Edition on 06/20/2016 | Metric Parallel Guide Set | 1080 Plate for custom MFT | OF 1400 EQ Router (metric) w/accessories | FS1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail (x1) | MFT FX Set | Next  Purchase: Something else Metric |

RED: // Mafell P1cc  //  MT55cc  // Next purchase: TBD

Offline rizzoa13

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I ordered my mafell Erika from Germany, had it shipped and added a new plug to use it in the us. If you felt these tools you wouldn't worry about them going boom, they don't have motor failures like some saws.

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.... that have been read about.  Also, how many - being inline with this thread - Carvex MOTORS or TS MOTORS "failing" have you read about.


I have nothing against Mafell and their tools.  They make great tools.

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Offline rizzoa13

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The p1cc has a condensed cuprex motor in it, the same as every saw mafell makes but on a different scale. If you handled the tools and more importantly heard or felt the motors in use you'd just understand.

For reference my p1cc weighs almost twice what my trion weighs.

Offline Svar

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If you handled the tools and more importantly heard or felt the motors in use you'd just understand.
With all due respect this is confirmation bias. Case in point: Kapex feels and sounds awesome because design flaw does not manifest itself through sound. On the other hand, TS freaks out new users with growling, which turns out to be normal and does not result in failure. Little or no information on longevity can be discerned from how it "feels".
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 09:38 PM by Svar »

Offline rizzoa13

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If you handled the tools and more importantly heard or felt the motors in use you'd just understand.
With all due respect this is confirmation bias. Case in point: Kapex feels and sounds awesome because design flaw does not manifest itself through sound. On the other hand, TS freaks out new users with growling, which turns out to be normal and does not result in failure. Little or no information on longevity can be discerned from how it "feels".

Everyone has different opinions and thats what makes life interesting. I disagree with you though on the kapex sound. Ive never gotten used to how timid it feels or sounds. Sure you can explain it with the soft start electronics and load monitoring of the motor but really you can feel and hear the difference between a Mafell and Festool machine, especially under LOAD.

Confirmation bias also can only be applied to someone who owns one manufacturer's tools over the others. I have 10:1 festools to mafell tools and yet Im spending money on items I already have from Festools line, to replace them with a Mafell tool.

Try out some Mafell saws with no bias towards festool in your mind and then see how you feel.

Offline yetihunter

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I've noticed TCO's many Ebay listings in the last month or two.
However, a visit to their website explicitly states that they won't
ship their Mafell offerings (at least the 110v) to the USA. 
Kept me from pulling the trigger.   Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.  [big grin]

Offline rizzoa13

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Yup I got mine problem free. The cunex blades are monstrous there's no way you could flex it

Offline Atonwa

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Received mine with no issues today. What a machine! I have a project next week that it will get a lot of use on so it was worth the shot. Thanks to the OP.

Offline Holmz

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The weather is getting cold again, so I pulled out the jiggy to cut up a couple of pallets yesterday afternoon.
I forgot to use the blade-n-decker which i reserve mostly for ABS/PVC in the dirt... I used a Bosch blade.

Interestingly a young fellow (I think or a maybe tom-boy) rocked up on a BMX bike as asked if I was furniture maker.
When I said I was making firewood he must have wondered what sort of moron would use a p1cc on a pallet?   :o

Anyhow he explained to me that he want to have a ramp to do 'tricks' on, and asked how much that would cost.
I asked if he had a lot of  money and he said no.
I said, we could probably do something where he pulled weeds for 1/2 hour.
But he needs to make a sketch with a ruler to know it is to actually make.
Off he went with a promise to be back later on the weekend.

Then I got to wondering whether and how to mitigate liability? I assume he is fatherless and needs some basic help. But I also do not want to be supporting some kid should he crack his skull open using a piece of wood and later pointing me out one who contributes to a minor's delinquency... But on the other hand, some kid that has an interest in such things seems like a good thing, and when I was young I lost a bit-o-bark on a bicycle too with no long term effects  :o

Anyhow I am interested in the legal ideas, but it is drifting off of a p1cc thread a bit.

The Mrs was happy that the pot belly was stoked-up when she arrived home, and just as stoked that the jiggy was in its Tanos systainer and no where to be seen.  [cool]