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Offline Lbob131

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Hammer C3 31 perform.
« on: September 09, 2018, 07:46 AM »
Does anyone   know how to access   the capacitors   on the Hammer C3 31  Perform  combination machine?
The planeing  head has become slow to start  and I'm thinking its a capacitor issue.

I've removed   the six screws  on the switch panel    but it won't  pull forward from its location  and seems trapped.

Their  is another 4 screws  which I think are holding the front plate  to the wiring box and I might try  removing these.
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Offline Lbob131

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 08:59 AM »
Have  managed to access the panel   and can see no capacitors.
So perhaps the  capacitor  is fitted to  the motor?

No easy access   to the planer motor. [sad]
Other than up ending the entire machine. I guess a call to felder technical is required.

Offline online421

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2018, 07:53 PM »
Have you checked with the manual? sometimes its one or two panels you need to remove to access the motor/capacitor.

I had to replace the saw motor on my combination machine 6 months ago, it was not a Hammer but a full size Robland (2.4m slider, 410mm wide planer)

I called the techs to come in to do it, the tech came in and a few hours later told me that I have to send the machine back to them to replace the motor because it has to be accessed from the underside of the machine - I managed to do replace the motor myself.

I hope the tech you called in is better than the tech I had. I am in NZ.

I wont be surprised if Felder made it difficult to service the machines. Thats where they make the money...

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Offline egmiii

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 10:47 PM »
Give Felder tech support a call. They are generally quite helpful. If you prefer online support, I believe there is a thread here monitored by Felder. You could also try the Felder Owners Group on yahoo. I’m not positive, but I believe Felder keeps the motor and capacitor separate on all their machines for this reason. Shouldn’t be too hard to swap out. Several people of the yahoo FOG have bought the capacitor on Amazon.

Offline Lbob131

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 01:27 PM »
The motors are well hidden. Can't see any  capacitors yet.
 Have e mailed  felder uk  but no reply. The hammer website seems   to have disappeared  and  had useful   contact  telephone numbers  which I have used previously.

I am  wondering if  these motors incorporate capacitors at all?

 When you  switch on  any motor you have to hold  the start button   for a few seconds. With the saw  and moulder  it about 5 seconds max.

With the planer head  its about 20 -  30 seconds. [sad]

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 02:52 PM »
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Offline online421

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2018, 02:30 AM »
The motors are well hidden. Can't see any  capacitors yet.
 Have e mailed  felder uk  but no reply. The hammer website seems   to have disappeared  and  had useful   contact  telephone numbers  which I have used previously.

I am  wondering if  these motors incorporate capacitors at all?

 When you  switch on  any motor you have to hold  the start button   for a few seconds. With the saw  and moulder  it about 5 seconds max.

With the planer head  its about 20 -  30 seconds. [sad]

Sometimes the capacitor is placed on top of the motor sometimes it is placed somewhere else.

Why some Felder/Hammer have this requirement to hold the start button for 5 seconds? with my Robland I turn the machine on like I turn on any household appliances, just one push, there is no need to hold the start button.  I have a few other industrlal machines and recently bought a new Felder AD951. I never need to hold the start button on any of my machines.
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Offline Bohdan

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2018, 02:41 AM »
Holding the switch in for a few seconds can be used to switch the start winding capacitor on to get the motor up to speed.

Offline egmiii

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 07:07 AM »
Three phase machines do not require you to hold the start button.

Offline Bohdan

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2018, 07:23 AM »
They do if you are fitted with a star-delta starter which is used to limit the start current.

Offline egmiii

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 02:37 PM »
They do if you are fitted with a star-delta starter which is used to limit the start current.

I did not know that. I appreciate the clarification.

Offline online421

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Re: Hammer C3 31 perform.
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2018, 11:57 PM »
Three phase machines do not require you to hold the start button.

My Robland NX410 was a single phase at 2.2kw and did not need to hold the start button though. the motor reaches its full speed within like a second or two once the start button is pressed.

Perhaps its the capacitor used.
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