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I have been thinking about this for a while and was just wondering. No right or wrong answers, no tool usage police. Just wondering  . Peter
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 10:03 AM » |
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What's that? I can't hear you! At least that's my well versed response to my lovely wife!
I do wear hearing protection. Usually just the foam ones that squish into my ears. I don't run impact guns anymore, so it's usually just when I'm running power tools!
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 10:09 AM » |
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I determined that if I found a comfortable pair of plugs that could easily be taken in and out and weighed almost nothing, I'd use them all the time. The Howard Leight Hearing Band (I get mine through McFeeleys) has solved that for me for several years. They very comfortable, sit around my neck and I forget they are there.
There's a young framer in town who's almost lost alot of his hearing from using a nail gun next to his ear. Earplugs look better than a hearing aid to me.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 10:18 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 11:16 AM » |
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I do not use ear protection with any of my Festool tools but always wear my ear muffs when planing, using my awful table saw or my bandsaw.
My hearing is really bad due to an accident many years ago but it is important to continue to wear ear protection even if you have hearing loss.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 11:17 AM » |
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I tend to seek out quiet tools and equipment and as I'm DIY/hobby, I'm in control of the noise levels I work in. If I was working on a site I would use some form of protection because of the prolonged effect.
In the garden I use 4 stroke gear because it's quieter and wearing muffs on a warm day is horrible.
If I ever do get a bandsaw I would definitely have a visor/muff combo hanging next to it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 11:20 AM » |
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No right or wrong answers? Wait till you get hearing damage.
I use them all the time. I like power tools but I just hate the darn noise they make. I don't see why mufflers would be an inconvenience. I often find I still have mine on 10 minutes after I turned off the tool. Just forgot about them while I went on with my work.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 11:23 AM » |
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didnt used to much but starting to wear them more and more. i find more you wear them the more the noises hurt you ears when not wearing them so you wear them more. i wish more emphasis had been put on this when i was leaning as i would find it second nature then. I'm 28 and get a slight ringing in my ears already so trying to reduce the further damage
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 11:24 AM » |
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sometimes. My planer is really the only tool that makes too much noise.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 11:26 AM » |
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I don't see why mufflers would be an inconvenience. They wouldn't in The Netherlands except for maybe 2 weeks out of the typical year. Here, they get pretty wet about half the year but I wear them anyway. Tom
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 11:48 AM » |
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Definitely! Just the foam insert type, particularly when I running any tool for extended time. Not all the time though. I am going to buy some Peltor 6-S When I was mining I used the foam ear plugs cause we ran the drills all day. Did protect my hearing. I am sure I did more damage with the volume turned up too loud on on my headphones while listening to music. I have been to a few live concerts that have left my ears ringing the day after which can't be good either. Youth, definitely wasted on the young. Tim
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 12:04 PM » |
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I use them for my shaper tables and surface planer, as they are real loud and after awhile it does have an affect on my working. I have not used them with any of my festool toys there seems no real need in my opinion with them. I have found that after my bout with Bell's Palsy my hearing is really effected by loud high pitch sounds
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 12:05 PM » |
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like Tim, I'm a rocker, left my self deaf and stupid jumping up and down next to full volume amplifiers. In the shop i use hearing protection when working with something particularly loud, such as heavy routing . I was using a noise cancelling set of headphones but more and more we're required to wear hard hats on site due to a lot of over head work with the grips running around on scissor lifts. Suffice to say this style headset is a no go with the brain bucket on. Disposable foamies for me.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 12:07 PM » |
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I don't see why mufflers would be an inconvenience. They wouldn't in The Netherlands except for maybe 2 weeks out of the typical year. Here, they get pretty wet about half the year but I wear them anyway. I wear them too in hot weather. And thanks to global warming we're not anymore on our minute two weeks of mildly warm weather as we used to be in the old days, it now can be quite hot here for months in a row. Admittedly, it's nowhere near the stories I hear from Texas, but even for America you get the extreme. The mufflers do get sweaty, I agree, but I can live with sweaty while I can not with the noise. But you don't need to wear them constantly, just put them on when you use a tool and take them off when you're finished. Besides that, there are other options than fully ear encompassing shells.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 12:20 PM » |
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I have been thinking about this for a while and was just wondering. No right or wrong answers, no tool usage police. Just wondering In the past, to be honest, "no" not usually. Would I wear them now if the need/opportunity arose, the answer is a definite "yes". I'm a few years shy of 60 and I've noticed the past several years that loud/high pitched noises are very irritating. And, I know my hearing isn't as good as it used to be, so I'd want to try and protect the hearing I do have left.
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 12:26 PM » |
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I wear the Howard Light Max light's (green). I never did until I was 24 or so and one night couldn't fall asleep due to the ringing in my ears! Framing guns, staplers, and saws make a lot of noise, ya kno! I wore them religiously for a few months and the ringing went away, but one day of forgetting will bring it right back. I also wear the "work tunes" when I'm inside trimming, no radio cranked over the noise of tools! I can't stand that.
But I definitely do have hearing loss, lol.
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 12:36 PM » |
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I wear them all the time. I have these Peltor headphone style, comfortable enough to wear all day and dirt cheap, Peltor H6A/V Optime at Amazon.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 12:38 PM » |
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Anything over 80 db will damage hearing. Using a db meter I found I can clap my hands and peg the 110 db meter at it's max 110 db.
I have had my ear drums broken twice at a young age. Yea hearing was reduced a bit.
I wear hearing protection anytime I using power tools and even some hand tools.
In today's world there are so many comfortable options. The sound canceling (Active Noise Reduction or ANR) ones you can get today allow you to hear and talk with others when tools are are not running and can actually increase hearing ability and the price is now very low for these. They will kick in/activate when the ambient noise gets into the 80 db range. What make them great is that once the sound level drops to a safe level they turn off and you can hear just like normal. So you don't have to take them off and then forget where they are and have to look to find them the next time. The result is you have them on and don't turn on the tool without them because "it is too much trouble to find/go get them".
As with any technology things advance. You can now get ANR headphones that you can plug your iPod into, have built in radios, connect to your phone via bluetooth so you can answer your phone while wearing them and they can have build in VOX radios so you can CX with the crew just like you were standing next to them.
I have earplugs with in reach all the time. Ever ridden in a jet?.... I use to travel 500,000+ airline miles a year and will not go on a plane without ear plugs and or sound canceling head phones.
Cheers, Steve
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2012, 02:37 PM » |
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Wear them most of the time, but then someone gave me a Bose Bluetooth amd now I'm addicted to wearing it on the jobsite because I can now work and talk more efficiently (at the cost of my hearing.) More recently, I've left the Bluetooth in the truck because my ears are ringing more amd more.
I also do landscaping on the side, and I never go without them while doing yards.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 02:45 PM » |
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Always, hate noise and would still like to hear when I am old! thx Lambeater
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 02:58 PM » |
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Always with some tools, sometimes with others.
For example, a drill press is generally very quiet, but sometimes for certain types of drilling I can get a loud screechy noise out of mine, and if that starts happening I will sometimes "stop the press" and put on earmuffs.
On the other hand, my Ryobi miter saw is so loud that if I forget to put something on I know it instantly when I start the saw... hopefully that never happens again!
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 03:20 PM » |
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I don't think ever, not in 30 years. For what? Not nearly as loud as the Velvet Underground, the Dead or Metallica.
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2012, 04:09 PM » |
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I use em all the time because i have relatively fine hearing, so i find tool noises extremely disturbing. I'm always listening to the radio in the shop, and i would hate to stand hours behind a tablesaw with muffs hearing nothing. So now i'm using Howard leight hearing protectors with built in radio, and it really makes my work much more pleasant. I wear them close to 8 hours a day because i wear them even for sanding or drilling.
In the same line i will also systematically wear safety glasses for anything besides sanding or dilling. And i know many who don't bother, for starters when i took woodworking classes none of the teachers wore eye or hearing protection while i refuse to work without.
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What DeanSocial said! Only over the last 3years have I started wearing ear muffs when I was learning I never bothered because my mentor never did and never told me to and I just found them annoying. Wearing ear muffs for 3years regularly at work I have found when I start a tool up with no ear muffs I really notice the noise and want to put my ear muffs on. I find you notice the noise far more also when some one else is making the noise instead of your self. I wish started wearing them when i started joinery cus I always feel paranoid that I have damaged my ears already. Same with music in my car I always had my music dead loud in them boy racer days! I use some regular cheap headphone type earmuffs and I also bought these ones not cheap about £120 http://www.proguarduk.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=39
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 04:11 PM » |
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Not nearly as loud as the Velvet Underground, the Dead or Metallica. I was at South by Southwest recently and saw about a dozen shows real close up. I was glad I had some of the expanding foam earplugs. I remember going to a music club here called Antone's when Clifford Antone was still alive. The music was so loud, my jeans were rippling and my bowels felt it. I asked the bartender to turn it down and he said, "I can't because then Clifford won't be able to hear it. He won't let us." It was then that I realized the bartender had ear plugs... Tom
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2012, 04:27 PM » |
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I do now. I wish I had begun doing so when I was younger.
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I was at South by Southwest recently and saw about a dozen shows real close up. I was glad I had some of the expanding foam earplugs.
I remember going to a music club here called Antone's when Clifford Antone was still alive. The music was so loud, my jeans were rippling and my bowels felt it. I asked the bartender to turn it down and he said, "I can't because then Clifford won't be able to hear it. He won't let us." It was then that I realized the bartender had ear plugs...
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2012, 06:06 PM » |
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I was at South by Southwest recently and saw about a dozen shows real close up. I was glad I had some of the expanding foam earplugs.
I remember going to a music club here called Antone's when Clifford Antone was still alive. The music was so loud, my jeans were rippling and my bowels felt it. I asked the bartender to turn it down and he said, "I can't because then Clifford won't be able to hear it. He won't let us." It was then that I realized the bartender had ear plugs...
Tom
Bet you're glad you didn't go for Chinese buffet before the show... That comment is really below the belt. Cheers, Steve
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My father-in-law suffers terribly from tinnitus and I would not wish this on anyone. I use hearing protection all the time- sometimes I forget the ear muffs are even on. Domino, rotex, ts55 all get the ear muff treatment. Not so much the CT.
As a sidenote, I think that the Festool demo videos should feature folks wearing ear protection where necessary in the same way they wear eye protection.
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As a sidenote, I think that the Festool demo videos should feature folks wearing ear protection where necessary in the same way they wear eye protection.
+ 1 Cheers, Steve
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