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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2017, 10:09 PM »


I once heard the former editor of a premier woodworking magazine say that using Festool dominoes was cheating because then anyone could do it.



I know whom you are referring to. Probably a tongue-in-cheek comment. If not, that's because he hasn't done any project with a three-way miter joint made possible by the dominoes (I have).

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2017, 10:00 AM »
There is a similar discussion in the watchmaking industry with one HUGE exception.

PS: Feel free to substitute the word WOODWORKER for the word WATCHMAKER in the discussion below. [big grin]

Way back when, in the field of watchmaking, each individual wheel, dial, axle, screw, plate, mainspring, gear, watch case or hand was sculpted out of metal, one piece at a time by an individual.

The watch manufacturer would order the parts they needed from each supply house/person and a single individual would assemble, fit, and finesse all the parts into a functional watch movement. The person assembling and fitting all the parts to produce a watch movement was called a WATCHMAKER.

Nowadays, all the individual watch parts are produced using CNC & EDM machines. And the person assembling, fitting and finessing all the parts to produce a watch movement is still called a WATCHMAKER.

So, the Swiss watch manufacturers recognize that with the advent of CNC manufacturing equipment, the job of a WATCHMAKER didn't significantly change, only the method by which the individual parts were manufactured significantly changed.

The WATCHMAKER is still needed to assemble, fit, finish, lap and finesse the 250+ individual parts into a functional watch movement.

Maybe Her/His job has been made a bit easier with CNC manufactured parts, however their job still exists and they're still totally responsible for the final product.

Offline tallgrass

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2017, 04:28 PM »
i don't fell a tree with an axe that i i did not make. i have not rendered the tree into rough planks with the various hand tools that i did not make by hand. Nor have i finished the rough timber into a finished product with the various hand tools required. I do not use adhesive rendered from rice, fish bladders and other animal proteins that I grown or raised. on and on and on. how close you have to get to napping flint and boiling tendons is up to you. what i hope is happening is that you are enjoying working with wood , how every you do it and what ever skills you posses and that those skill continue to grow. i am off to get the steam boiler up to pressure so i can get to work in my shop.:)

Offline estley

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2017, 09:11 PM »
is a dado cut with a cnc less valid than one that was cut with a hand router, which is in turn less valid than one cut with hand tools?.... what is more important? how the dado was cut, or the desicion to cut that dado, of those dimensions, in that piece of the project?


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Online ben_r_

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2018, 04:33 PM »
If there is wood dust its woodworking to me.

And whats are all this $45K CNC talk? A ShopBot doesnt cost that much! In fact not even HALF that. Forget Laguna!
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2018, 04:48 PM »
If there is wood dust its woodworking to me.

And whats are all this $45K CNC talk? A ShopBot doesnt cost that much! In fact not even HALF that. Forget Laguna!


What are YOU making, matchboxes???   [poke]   Seriously, some friends have a CNC that ran close to $60K.  It will handle 4' x 10' sheet goods. 
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Online ben_r_

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2018, 06:23 PM »
If there is wood dust its woodworking to me.

And whats are all this $45K CNC talk? A ShopBot doesnt cost that much! In fact not even HALF that. Forget Laguna!


What are YOU making, matchboxes???   [poke]   Seriously, some friends have a CNC that ran close to $60K.  It will handle 4' x 10' sheet goods. 
Yep, so will a ShopBot. If youve never looked into them, check it out (LINK). They have been a top of the line option for home-gamers for years. Sure you can spend $100K on a CNC router, but if you arent doing serious day in and day out commercial work there is hardly a reason for such a machine.
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Offline Oldwood

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2018, 07:01 PM »
Camaster has some options that are quite affordable also.

http://www.camaster.com/
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Offline estley

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2018, 07:39 AM »
this guy is far more than a woodworker, but i think it illustrates the point that there's a valid argument for saying that the use of a cnc IS woodworking...




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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2018, 01:20 PM »
this guy is far more than a woodworker, but i think it illustrates the point that there's a valid argument for saying that the use of a cnc IS woodworking...
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That is an awesome bit of woodworking.

Offline HMR

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2018, 10:08 PM »
Besides being the tool that produces the most income in my shop, the CNC is the best way to use up scraps.  Here’s some leftover oak and lacewood from earlier this week:




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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2018, 03:34 AM »
this guy is far more than a woodworker, but i think it illustrates the point that there's a valid argument for saying that the use of a cnc IS woodworking...




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This guy is amazing.

I feel so crap now 😂
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Offline glass1

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2018, 09:18 AM »
Cnc. Just another step in the direction that the only thing of value is the idea. Ie the design is the only thing that matters or gets the $. The craftsman doing the work are just tools who get valued less and less and paid less thru time. Our society values those who do the work less and less.  Designed by...  that’s all that matters. Listen to tithe reasoning here if Stephen Hawkins designed it he is a woodworker. Poppy caulk. Let’s drop the devils argument crap.

Offline ali

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Re: Is CNC woodworking?
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2018, 10:19 AM »
this guy is far more than a woodworker, but i think it illustrates the point that there's a valid argument for saying that the use of a cnc IS woodworking...




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Wow, thanks for posting this. This is definitely on the bucket list to do!