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Offline estley

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iVac question...
« on: February 27, 2017, 03:47 PM »
I just pulled the trigger on a Bosch axial glide saw, I figured I'd give it a try, and if I don;t like it I'll save up some extra cash, sell this one on craigslist, and get a Kapex. I have to order the Kapex dust boot thingy to improve the dust collection.

Also, for the time being, I'll jsut have it hooked up to a ridgid shopvac (140CFM claim), so I was poking around on amazon for the iVac switch, and found this one:

https://www.amazon.com/BCTINT-10031-010-Automated-Vacuum-Switch/dp/B0035YGLZG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488228049&sr=8-1&keywords=ivac+automated+vacuum+switch

and found this on a review:

"I was incredibly excited about this product. I had just set up my vacuum cart with a Dust Deputy for my woodshop and bought this product to make dust collection a breeze. The item itself works great, i have no complaints about its operation. However, I would highly recommend not using this in conjunction with a tool that utilizes an electronic brake (most new miter saws) or a soft start router. My router was rendered useless after one use of this product and now wont power up to full RPM. My brand new Bosch miter saw is currently being serviced to repair the electric brake because this switch caused internal damage. The reason? When you power up the tool, the vacuum switches on aproximately a half second after the tool. For many tools, this is right in the middle of it spooling up to full power. When the vacuum kicks on, it draws amperage to itself which, unless you're running two separate cords to two separate circuits (which very few people have access to), causes the tool to hesitate. This hesitation, resulting from a voltage drop, can interfere with tool operation, especially in circumstances which require exact voltage and amperages to operate (i.e. soft start functions, electric brakes, etc)."

Does that review make sense, or is it a very crafty troll with way too much time on his/her hands?

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Offline Getmaverick

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 06:36 PM »
I went the same rout as you. The 110 version of the Kapex scares the heck out of me with the motor issues.
Don’t think I’ll pony up for one of those for a long time.
As for the plug, I went with the DGC PRODUCTS i-Socket Autoswitch. The recent reviews of the one you are looking at didn’t look good.
This one has been going for over a year now with no problems.

Offline estley

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 07:11 PM »
how do you like the bosch?


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Offline Getmaverick

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 07:22 PM »
I like it. It is a stationary saw in my shop, so I don't move it. I purchased a Forest chopmaster blade for it. Mine took a little tweaking to get it square to the fence but that was done in about 10 minutes.

Offline estley

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 08:49 PM »
right now i have a dewalt, dust collection is beyond bad no matter what i do. I'm looking to add the kapex dust boot, and for the time being i'll just hook it up to a regular ridged vac. And see where things go from there.


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Offline Peter_C

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 09:23 PM »
I have a Bosch 5312 and use a shop vac with the Ivac. I ALWAYS run the vac and tool off of two separate circuits. No issues with the brake or any other power issues. I mounted the Ivac to the vacuum.

A Dust Deputy works well for keeping the filter cleanish. You can see the needed adapter, from Home Depot, to go to the 2 1/4" vac hose from the saw. As to the Kapex dust boot, I took a piece of vinyl for repairing rubber rafts, which is pretty heavy duty, and using a bent piece of scrap aluminum, and some duct tape, made a dust shield. Made a big difference in how much dust was collected. Total cost $0.00.


Offline WastedP

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 09:36 PM »
I found an iSocket in a box of stuff in the shop I'm working in.  I hooked it up to the DeWalt 12" SCMS with the Ridgid shop vac I replaced last fall (CT 36).  It is effective, and it hasn't damaged the tool even though it's on the same circuit as the saw.

Incidentally, the warehouseman found two Dust Deputies in storage a few weeks back.  I haven't had a chance to look at them yet.

Offline Cheese

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 10:03 PM »
Quote from: estley link=topic=50565.msg498898#msg498898 date
Does that review make sense...

Now I'm no electrode...but that review doesn't seem to make any sense. When it comes to the router, I'd expect that either the router wouldn't run at all, or that it'd only operate at max speed...not that it won't run at full rpm.

I don't know...the explanation seems a bit wonky. I've run a Kapex plugged into a Fein Turbo II vac for several years on the same electrical circuit and have not had any issues. That scenario pretty much parallels the iVac system.

You could always decide to install a Long Ranger system instead if you're nervous. It's a manual system but it works well.


Offline JimD

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 08:57 AM »
This is the one I use:

https://www.amazon.com/DGC-PRODUCTS-IS110M-i-Socket-Autoswitch/dp/B005ELWUWG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1488721827&sr=8-2&keywords=automated+vacuum+switch

It works well but I haven't hooked it to a tool with variable speed.  I have the tool and vacuum on the same 20A circuit.  I hook my 15A table saw to it.  The Rigid shop vac I am using is rated to draw 10A.  Works fine. 

I had a variable speed go out on one of my PC 690 routers.  It apparently isn't highly unusual.  I just wired it out and it is now single speed like my other 690.  I have a separate speed control to use in the rare even I need to slow down a hand held router. 

If the manufacturer of the auto switch thinks it works fine with tools with speed control, soft start, and brakes then I would use it with these tools.  It is completely possible that the reviewers tool failed for reasons other than the switch.

Offline JBag09

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 10:54 AM »
I have two of the iVac switches if anyone needs one or both. Bought them by mistake. I use the remote to turn the dust collector on and have no need for them.
As far as the whole iVac system goes I love it.


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Offline wptski

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2017, 11:21 AM »
You can purchase a three button remote that operates three different 15A receivers at Menards or Harbour Frieght for <$20.

The Fastcap remote used by some is no longer rated for 15A, Amazon had it incorrectly listed as such and a few melted on users.

I have a Bosch 10" Glide, the table(sides) are higher than the swivel base which isn't flat.  The blade must be squared(bevel) on the right side to to produce a square cut from the left side and a cut from the right side is therefore "slightly" off.
Bill
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Offline estley

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Re: iVac question...
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 08:05 PM »
so I went with the dgc iSocket, and it worked very nicely, for less than an hour, then it didn't work at all. It's now on its way back to amazon.


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