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Offline Rollin22Petes

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2016, 08:48 PM »
Shane sure has been mum on this. I wonder if Toolnut is going to carry there full line of tools the only thing that has kept me buying any Mafell is having only one dealer here in the US. May be time to rethink that.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2016, 08:54 PM »
Shane sure has been mum on this. I wonder if Toolnut is going to carry there full line of tools the only thing that has kept me buying any Mafell is having only one dealer here in the US. May be time to rethink that.

Out of respect for Festool, I don't think it's appropriate for me to discuss other brands here on the forum. Plus, it's against the rules (that I wrote) for the forum.

We do plan to expand our offerings in the coming months.

Feel free to hit me up if you want more information.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2016, 09:02 PM »
Thanks didn't mean to put on the spot there.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2016, 05:08 PM »
Good night nurse!   :o :o  My Festool is positively cheap compared to this stuff.  I'll stick with my Festool, thank you...
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Offline greg mann

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2016, 11:08 PM »
Call me crazy but I do not believe this hurts Festool at all. Mafell is even more expensive, but more importantly, their presence is another example of high value products in the marketplace. Festool is often described as an anomaly, a company that over-estimates the value of their products versus the commodity offerings so widely available. It is more difficult to disparage a premium car brand when there are a half-dozen of them as opposed to only one.
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Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2016, 02:20 AM »
Call me crazy but I do not believe this hurts Festool at all. Mafell is even more expensive, but more importantly, their presence is another example of high value products in the marketplace. Festool is often described as an anomaly, a company that over-estimates the value of their products versus the commodity offerings so widely available. It is more difficult to disparage a premium car brand when there are a half-dozen of them as opposed to only one.

@greg mann

Funny isn't it ...

People that aren't elite athletes will drop $10K on a bike, buy a Ferrari and drive it at the same speeds as a Golf, buy a Rolex that tells the same time as a Seiko ...

You'd think the concept of buying a tool that actually does a job better (maybe 10% better) at a higher cost would make sense when your REAL cost is labour and a more efficient tool makes a massive difference to your profits (once you've covered the cost of the tool).

I suppose I can understand some people look at a situation simplistically and ask themselves "Why should I spend $1,000 on a tool that's only 10% better than a $200 tool?" rather than comprehend that if they use the tool for just 90 minutes a day instead of 100 minutes and extrapolate to 250 days at $50 per hour ... they're looking at a benefit of over $2K in the first year alone!

What we need is an industry benchmark for task execution to perform a specified complete job with a tool (including setup, execution and cleanup, etc). Something performed independently - @Shane Holland isn't busy, perfect project for him [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2016, 07:04 PM »
OK now somebody please put up an "Erika" link

Sincerely
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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2016, 07:40 PM »
Doesn't seem like tool it's carrying it yet but contact Shane. He said on the mafell forum to get in touch with him with any tool inquiries and they MAY be able to get it.

Btw my Erika is pretty much my favorite thing.

Offline Holmz

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2016, 03:46 AM »
OK now somebody please put up an "Erika" link

Sincerely
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Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2016, 04:32 AM »
Funny isn't it ... in all reality the FOG is morphing into the de facto "Premium Woodworking Tools Forum".

Offline Holmz

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2016, 04:59 AM »
Funny isn't it ... in all reality the FOG is morphing into the de facto "Premium Woodworking Tools Forum".

Really I think it is a benefit, as people that gravitate towards Festool probably also gravitate to other brands which provide use like Mirka, Lamello, etc.

And if one is trying to compare and contrast high end tools they have to do that somewhere.

Lastly there are a lot of people here that do some nice work... like today's Audio thread. So you get some neat insight into design ideas. That benefits myself, and probably others... So there are also some aspects of "Premium Woodworking" to add to the premium tools.

ToolNut is probably wise to carry more than 1 set of premium tool, and it flows over from Festool through KnewConcepts, WoodPeckers, etc. So they are moving into a niche of "Premium Woodworking Tools Supplier", which somewhat mirrors the forum's population/demographic trends.

Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2016, 05:27 AM »
Funny isn't it ... in all reality the FOG is morphing into the de facto "Premium Woodworking Tools Forum".

Really I think it is a benefit, as people that gravitate towards Festool probably also gravitate to other brands which provide use like Mirka, Lamello, etc.

And if one is trying to compare and contrast high end tools they have to do that somewhere.

Lastly there are a lot of people here that do some nice work... like today's Audio thread. So you get some neat insight into design ideas. That benefits myself, and probably others... So there are also some aspects of "Premium Woodworking" to add to the premium tools.

ToolNut is probably wise to carry more than 1 set of premium tool, and it flows over from Festool through KnewConcepts, WoodPeckers, etc. So they are moving into a niche of "Premium Woodworking Tools Supplier", which somewhat mirrors the forum's population/demographic trends.

@Holmz .. well said !!

Offline JimH2

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2016, 05:03 PM »
Funny isn't it ... in all reality the FOG is morphing into the de facto "Premium Woodworking Tools Forum".

or a tool collector's forum...

Offline JimH2

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2016, 05:13 PM »
The Duo-Dowel Joiner is where it is at for joining and for shelf-pin holes. I've moved over to Mafell's tracksaw, jigsaw, and joiner. Toolnut has a limited stock now, so take a look at the Mafell site to see the crazy tools they have come up with. The dado cutting saw (MF26-cc) is an outstanding idea.

Not sure how service/warranty will work at Toolnut though. Timberwolf cuts the warranty period from 3 years to 1 year. I've never had problems so I have not been affected. A little competition for Timberwolf will be good.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2016, 05:28 PM »
Call me crazy but I do not believe this hurts Festool at all. Mafell is even more expensive, but more importantly, their presence is another example of high value products in the marketplace. Festool is often described as an anomaly, a company that over-estimates the value of their products versus the commodity offerings so widely available. It is more difficult to disparage a premium car brand when there are a half-dozen of them as opposed to only one.

100% agree. We welcome the competition. Furthermore, if another company is encouraging craftsmen to consider investing in high quality, premium tools, that's ultimately a good thing for us.

Now having said that ... buy Festool and buy often!  [wink]

Offline jimbo51

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2016, 05:54 PM »
I wonder if the folks at Mafell ever plan to introduce imperial sized bits for the dowel joiner. It might make the machine more palatable for North American customers. I have not seen any third party imperial sized bits though they may exist.

Offline Billy stray

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2016, 06:58 PM »
Thanks Homz
Billy

Offline Holmz

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2016, 02:08 AM »
I wonder if the folks at Mafell ever plan to introduce imperial sized bits for the dowel joiner. It might make the machine more palatable for North American customers. I have not seen any third party imperial sized bits though they may exist.

If they did CMT may be the place to start.

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2016, 04:24 AM »
Call me crazy but I do not believe this hurts Festool at all. Mafell is even more expensive, but more importantly, their presence is another example of high value products in the marketplace. Festool is often described as an anomaly, a company that over-estimates the value of their products versus the commodity offerings so widely available. It is more difficult to disparage a premium car brand when there are a half-dozen of them as opposed to only one.

100% agree. We welcome the competition. Furthermore, if another company is encouraging craftsmen to consider investing in high quality, premium tools, that's ultimately a good thing for us.

Now having said that ... buy Festool and buy often!  [wink]

Agree Gentleman. The best thing that ever happened to an Art a Gallery once owned by a friend, was another Gallery opening nearby.

And yes, the FOG has been one of the Premium Woodworking Sites for some time, however there could be more on design.

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Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2016, 07:05 PM »
What is the procedure with Mafell repairs and warranty claims?  How hard is it to get spare parts?  Anyone in the States that will repair them once they are out of warranty?

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2016, 09:01 PM »
What is the procedure with Mafell repairs and warranty claims?  How hard is it to get spare parts?  Anyone in the States that will repair them once they are out of warranty?
Tyler, spare parts are available in the states.  Not hard to get whatsoever (few days) and we'll stock'em soon enough once we identify high wear components, etc.  Our understanding from current Mafell customer's and Timberwolf's experience is that minimal, if any tools, experience issues even well after the warranty period.  And yes, just as there is support for warranty repair, there are repair services available once the tools are out of warranty... but again this seems to be quite a rarity.
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Offline Runhard

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2017, 12:06 AM »
Did ToolNut stop selling Mafell? I was looking on their website today and could not find the Mafell line.
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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2017, 12:21 AM »
Did ToolNut stop selling Mafell? I was looking on their website today and could not find the Mafell line.

It looks that way...@Shane Holland?

The Timberwolf site looks to be vastly improved over what I saw a year or so ago...

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2017, 02:11 AM »
Did ToolNut stop selling Mafell? I was looking on their website today and could not find the Mafell line.

It looks that way...@Shane Holland?

The Timberwolf site looks to be vastly improved over what I saw a year or so ago...


The Timberwolf site is new, and a huge improvement over the old.  They also started free shipping on the more common tools and related accessory orders over $100.00 (probably to match Tool nut free shipping).

If it is true that Tool Nut has stopped selling Mafell products, I wonder if they will have a clearance sale, or simply return their inventory to Timberwolf, who I think supplied their product to them.

The next question is, if Tool Nut is no longer a Mafell retailer, will Timberwolf continue their free shipping policy on the tools that had also been sold by Tool Nut?

Stay tuned for these and many other answers as to why Tool Nut has dropped Mafell, if they even have.  After all, it might just be an oversight and Mafell products might pop back up tomorrow.......
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Offline Shane Holland

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2017, 01:16 PM »
I can confirm that we have stopped offering Mafell tools as of the end of this month. There will not be an inventory clearance.

We appreciate everyone who ordered Mafell from us over the past year and a half, and for Mafell giving us the opportunity to represent their brand.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2018, 11:13 PM »
I can confirm that we have stopped offering Mafell tools as of the end of this month. There will not be an inventory clearance.

We appreciate everyone who ordered Mafell from us over the past year and a half, and for Mafell giving us the opportunity to represent their brand.

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Offline Jozsef Kozma

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2018, 09:42 AM »
I never understood the whole thing
To be able to sell only a few tools and if you wanted
an other tool than you had to go back to the company
Who didn’t want me as a costumer
Mafell quality is unquestionable their distribution company is  .....
Tool nut is on an other level of costumer service
That they couldn’t make it work is just not a surprise me
To bad it would have been nice to have a Mafell distributor near by

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2018, 07:34 PM »
Mafell is a great company with fantastic tools but I do not understand the Erika!!!!!
I am sure it is a great saw but looking at the dimensions and what it does, why not hammer k3 winner 800mm which is cost the same?

Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2018, 07:38 PM »
Mafell is a great company with fantastic tools but I do not understand the Erika!!!!!
I am sure it is a great saw but looking at the dimensions and what it does, why not hammer k3 winner 800mm which is cost the same?


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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2018, 08:53 PM »
It look like Tool Nuts stop selling Mirka sander too .