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Offline builderbob

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Just noticed this on ToolNut
« on: July 15, 2016, 03:42 PM »
Just noticed this when I was on ToolNut.com

Not trying to start any battles but I think this is gonna be great to have a market of tool options! 

https://www.toolnut.com/Mafell_Track_Saws_s/3708.htm
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Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 04:10 PM »
It'll be interesting to see if they expand the range to the table saws, etc.

I'm having second thoughts regarding Mafell (like the tools, don't like the company). The DD40 combined with its template system is pretty cool. Festool are missing out by not offering a decent way to use the Domino accurately across the face of a board.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 04:27 PM »
The boss promised me an Erika for Christmas if I am good all year long, hopefully they will stock them by then.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 04:31 PM »
I'd love to see the Erika. Time will tell...
Kapex, TS55, CMS GE, Carvex 420, Domino DF500, MFK 700, OF 2200, OF 1400, OF 1010, EHL65, RAS 115, RTS 400, RO150, ETS 150/3, ETS 125, CT 22 (2), CXS (2), C-15+3, T-12+3, PSB 300 & more MFT's than i can count!

Offline fidelfs

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 04:39 PM »
That's great news!
There is never a situation where it can't be done with the right hand tool - even though it may be a lot more work.

Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 04:40 PM »
@Shane Holland

Erika Erika Erika Erika

I don't know why I'm getting so carried away, I'm on the other side of the planet [blink] [huh]

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 04:49 PM »
@Shane Holland

Erika Erika Erika Erika

I don't know why I'm getting so carried away, I'm on the other side of the planet [blink] [huh]

Heck, I don't know why I am either, I have to be "good" to qualify...

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 05:02 PM »
Awesome!

Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 05:16 PM »
Snowballs chance Richard!

Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 05:19 PM »
Very impressed by the range of accessories you guys rock! I was hoping another US supplier would drive down price but if I were to carry the line as the second us distributor I'd be hard pressed to undercut too. It's a big step in the right direction though because now we know timberwolf doesn't have sold rights to distribute anymore.

Offline Kev

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 05:39 PM »
Very impressed by the range of accessories you guys rock! I was hoping another US supplier would drive down price but if I were to carry the line as the second us distributor I'd be hard pressed to undercut too. It's a big step in the right direction though because now we know timberwolf doesn't have sold rights to distribute anymore.

@rizzoa13 if I read between the lines a little, I'm guessing Mafell must have woken up recently in terms of the market outside of Europe. Years ago, when I enquired about Mafell tools for use in Australia, I was given a blunt response and told to deal with Timberwolf US. Not a positive interaction. Mafell today actually acknowledge that Australia exists as a country on their website .. not that they actually have a reseller/distributor. Maybe it's time to simply assume the person I had dealt with at Mafell back then was a fool and give them another try. I really do like a few of their tools.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 05:59 PM »
As of 10/17 I am out of the Dog business and pursuing other distractions. Thanks for a fun ride!

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 06:01 PM »
They seem to be old school in their dealings with the public but having tool it be the distributor is huge for me as their customer service is phenomenal. It could really work out.

My issue with Timberwolf was they don't stock much and get a delivery from mafell every month or so. I had to wait 6 weeks to order some new sliding table brackets for my Erika. I could've learned to smelt in that time frame and mined my own ore...
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 06:03 PM by rizzoa13 »

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 06:13 PM »
Wow, I heard about this directly this afternoon and here it is plastered on the FOG already.

Guess I shouldn't worry about keeping a secret now.

Peter

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2016, 06:16 PM »
By the way, based on my conversation with Shane they will be ramping up in time after initially stocking the most popular items.

Sounds kinda weird to be mentioning Shane in a Mafell thread but I guess I'll get over it.  [scared]

Peter

Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 06:24 PM »
This is such incredible news. This has made my day. Love a lot of my festool tools but the dd40 is one of my favorite tools. Looking to add a few more Mafell in the coming months so this timing could be perfect.

Offline RKA

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 07:08 PM »
Awesome!!  Way to go Tool Nut!  More options = good.  More good options = bestest!   :)
-Raj

Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 07:15 PM »
Awesome!!  Way to go Tool Nut!  More options = good.  More good options = bestest!   :)

@RKA What sort of advanced lingual algebra is that? [eek] [huh]

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2016, 08:00 PM »
I resemble my dog...when I get happy I get loopy!  :)
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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2016, 08:03 PM »
It'll be interesting to see if they expand the range to the table saws, etc.

I'm having second thoughts regarding Mafell (like the tools, don't like the company). The DD40 combined with its template system is pretty cool. Festool are missing out by not offering a decent way to use the Domino accurately across the face of a board.

Kev as a company they are not to like or dislike, it is not like you are bedding down with them and eventually splitting the house. Same with lamello. Their tools are top shelf, but I do not know what they are like a people, nor do I care. I do not want to try their customer service and the tools I get have a lower rate of failure.

Shipping is cheaper for 2 or 3 Erikas... Let me know when you're ready.
They need to go to a port to be reasonable, or the shipping ratchets up. I was going Adelaide, maybe I'll select Perth, and do another drive.

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2016, 08:55 PM »
Don't understand why a company can't be liked or disliked.  Obviously there are those here who like or dislike companies.

Peter

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2016, 09:13 PM »
Years ago, when I enquired about Mafell tools for use in Australia, I was given a blunt response and told to deal with Timberwolf US. Not a positive interaction. Mafell today actually acknowledge that Australia exists as a country on their website .. not that they actually have a reseller/distributor. Maybe it's time to simply assume the person I had dealt with at Mafell back then was a fool and give them another try. I really do like a few of their tools.

Not all companies are global. You can't dislike a company for not having presence in Australia. I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful Australian companies without presence in Germany. Should we dislike them?

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2016, 09:31 PM »
Hey Kev, you and Holmz have a special relationship.  Maybe you can convince Holmz to set up a distribution network there.  He has knowledge of the brand, obviously highly intelligent and is certainly a believer in their products.

Offline Kev

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2016, 09:33 PM »
Years ago, when I enquired about Mafell tools for use in Australia, I was given a blunt response and told to deal with Timberwolf US. Not a positive interaction. Mafell today actually acknowledge that Australia exists as a country on their website .. not that they actually have a reseller/distributor. Maybe it's time to simply assume the person I had dealt with at Mafell back then was a fool and give them another try. I really do like a few of their tools.

Not all companies are global. You can't dislike a company for not having presence in Australia. I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful Australian companies without presence in Germany. Should we dislike them?

@Svar I didn't say I didn't like them because they didn't have a presence in Australia. I'm not a complete idiot.

The way they handled the response was my issue, as I very clearly explained in the very same paragraph you quoted.

Not all companies are global ... you don't say, I never realised that [wink] [big grin]

... and just for the record though - I can dislike a company for absolutely any reason I choose. In fact I think I'll hate any organisation who's CEO is named Roger ... TAKE THAT!!!

Offline Kev

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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2016, 09:35 PM »
Hey Kev, you and Holmz have a special relationship.  Maybe you can convince Holmz to set up a distribution network there.  He has knowledge of the brand, obviously highly intelligent and is certainly a believer in their products.

 [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

I've had exchanges with him via PM .. I know is sources [wink]


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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 10:35 PM »
Hey Kev, you and Holmz have a special relationship.  Maybe you can convince Holmz to set up a distribution network there.  He has knowledge of the brand, obviously highly intelligent and is certainly a believer in their products.

I am not sure @Kev and my relationship that special, but he seems to tolerate me, and I can be difficult... So I guess that makes it somewhat special  [embarassed]

I see your subtly and sarckiness (Aussy for sarcasm) is getting better.  [wink]
As a brand I have not personally found anything that is not first rate, but I skipped their 150-mm RO sander and got a Mirka.
But that said I do not have access to tools to do my own comparisons easily, so I have to rely on a lot web searches and they all can have bias. Then you add in my own confirmation bias and it makes doing accurate assessments somewhat of a challenge.

However in Australia, like the rest of the world (except Japan and a few smaller countries) the voltage is 230v/50-Hz; and this really becomes a game changer in terms of what tools one can choose from. Basically one either uses an Au-Eu cheater or some other method for getting the wall power into the tools, and you're done.

In the US it is a more difficult with 110v and the good Festool distribution, so it is takes a lot more chin-scratching. And it is not apparent that Mafell is always the correct answer, especially when one already has Festool rails.

Tool Nut must believe that they have a market, and they are not dummies there.

Lastly we could also go down a rabbit hole on whether the DD40 or the Lamello Zeta-P2 is better than a Domino...
They all have some overlap, but they also have distinct niche areas where they excel. (32-mm holes, sheet-goods, and joinery respectively). It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence to see this, and it also is reasonable to use a Domino for Zeta stuff when one has a Domino and only few joints to make.
So one basically needs to think long-n-hard about what they are doing and what is ideal, weighted up with what they have and what they are doing. Starting from scratch can be a lot easier.

All that said the DX93, MFT, and Dominos are unique.
The ETS EC is very good (probably Mirka inspired).
After that it is preference between FT and other manufacturers offerings.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 10:39 PM by Holmz »

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 11:01 PM »
I've had exchanges with him via PM .. I know his sources [wink]

Is he stable? Does he need to be put on the no fly list? These are serious questions from a Norton owner to a Triumph restorer.

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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 11:21 PM »

Is he stable? Does he need to be put on the no fly list? These are serious questions from a Norton owner to a Triumph restorer.

Stable? Not at all - he lives in the middle of Australia and is mostly timid unless you try and forcibly remove his aluminium foil hat or take away his 1974 Staedtler clutch pencil ...

... but his only a danger to himself [wink] [big grin]

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2016, 03:06 AM »
That is awesome news. I love Mafell tools...expensive, but the saws I have are just amazing!

Offline mkasdin

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Re: Just noticed this on ToolNut
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2016, 03:24 AM »
More choices. The erica is nice.