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Offline treesner

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Milwaukee router edge guide
« on: May 17, 2017, 02:11 PM »
Hey guys looking for an edge guide for my Milwaukee plunge router. Is that pretty universal with the two rods? Would the festool one work/be the best option?

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Offline justaguy

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2017, 02:23 PM »
The rod size and spacing varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. You need the specifications for your router and base you are considering to make sure they will work together. Simple solution is buy the recommended Milwaukee edge guide. High-end solution is to buy a Micro Fence edge guide if they have your router listed as one they can adapt to. Micro Fence Edge Guide

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2017, 04:41 PM »
My Milwaukee 5615-20 and my PC690 fences can be interchanged with each other.
The 5615-20 is not a plunge router but I would think all the Milwaukee would be the same.
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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2017, 05:46 PM »
Is that pretty universal with the two rods? Would the festool one work/be the best option?

You're probably best to go with the Milwaukee or the Micro Fence if you really like the Milwaukee router.

Stock Milwaukee rods are only 7mm with a 60mm center to center distance.
1010 rods are 8mm with a 107mm center to center distance.
1400 rods are 8mm with a 79mm center to center distance.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 02:56 PM »
Is that pretty universal with the two rods? Would the festool one work/be the best option?

You're probably best to go with the Milwaukee or the Micro Fence if you really like the Milwaukee router.

Stock Milwaukee rods are only 7mm with a 60mm center to center distance.
1010 rods are 8mm with a 107mm center to center distance.
1400 rods are 8mm with a 79mm center to center distance.

I haven't been able to find a milwaukee one or a fence that has is listed as working, i'll check out the micro fence

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 02:57 PM »
My Milwaukee 5615-20 and my PC690 fences can be interchanged with each other.
The 5615-20 is not a plunge router but I would think all the Milwaukee would be the same.

yeah that's the router just with the second plunge base they come with. thanks i'll check the porter cable fence

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 03:27 PM »
Here are a couple of photos of the fence for my 5616-21 router. I'd think the 5615 would be the same.

Don't choke when you look at the price of the Micro Fence... [big grin]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 04:50 PM »
Don't choke when you look at the price of the Micro Fence... [big grin]

not a comment I would expect at a Festool forum. I'm just say'n...  [wink]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 06:50 PM »
$200 for a router guide even makes Festool buyers raise their eyebrows.

That $80-$100 bucks Festool charges is like an Xmas in July sale comparatively.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 09:22 PM »

not a comment I would expect at a Festool forum. I'm just say'n...  [wink]


That's funny... [thumbs up]...Recently I just wanted to purchase a Micro Fence that could be swapped between my 1010 & 1400 and was surprised at the price...upwards of $350 for the combination that would work.  [eek]

That's what I paid for my 5616 router + plunge base + edge guide + sales tax...

Having said that, the Milwaukee 5616 "Palm Router" is still my favorite for edge rounding tasks.  [popcorn]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 09:34 AM »
Cheese - do you feel the fence has been worth the $350 expense ?

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 01:31 PM »
PC and Milwaukee fences lined up. They both also fit the PC compact router.
Didn't get a photo but the 5615, PC690, and the compact router can all use
the DeWalt router guide with the DeWalt track saw rail. Since the DeWalt router
rail guide fits those routers I would expect that the DeWalt router would fit the
PC and Milwaukee fences, but I don't have a DeWalt router to find out. I bought
the DeWalt router rail guide when I got my track saw and rails on the chance it
would fit one of my routers. They both did so I never bothered to get a DeWalt
router. I never would have bought the PC compact router but it came with my
Unisaw when they first came out with the new model 7 years ago.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 01:36 PM by Bob D. »
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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 02:33 PM »
Cheese - do you feel the fence has been worth the $350 expense ?

Hey @antss , I haven't purchased it yet... [doh] [doh]  I'm still fiddling with the standard Festool fences until I come upon a project that absolutely requires the Micro Fence. It'll probably happen...just don't know when. [tongue]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2017, 10:47 AM »

not a comment I would expect at a Festool forum. I'm just say'n...  [wink]


That's funny... [thumbs up]...Recently I just wanted to purchase a Micro Fence that could be swapped between my 1010 & 1400 and was surprised at the price...upwards of $350 for the combination that would work.  [eek]

That's what I paid for my 5616 router + plunge base + edge guide + sales tax...

Having said that, the Milwaukee 5616 "Palm Router" is still my favorite for edge rounding tasks.  [popcorn]

I have this set-up and it is worth every penny. Smoothest and easiest fence to adjust. The prices are going up sometime soon when Richard launches the new website and I think he is giving a 10% discount now off of current pricing, so I would suggest moving on it if you are interested. I just bought the 1010 and Bosch Colt adapters to use between the two. Honestly I think that the 1400 and 2200 edge guides are very good from Festool so not worth it to me to spend the $40 price for adapters to fit each of those routers. I thought the 1010 edge guide is not very good and more of an after-thought. Having the MF system changes that. I have had one for  10 years or so now and I recommend it. Richard is a great guy too and quickly answers any questions.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 12:04 PM »

I have this set-up and it is worth every penny. Smoothest and easiest fence to adjust. The prices are going up sometime soon when Richard launches the new website and I think he is giving a 10% discount now off of current pricing, so I would suggest moving on it if you are interested.

Hey @ScotF , thanks for the input. I agree, the 1010 fence is a joke, it's especially hokey to adjust. I'll check out their website today.  [big grin]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2017, 03:24 PM »
@ScotF For the 1010 microfence option, do you just have the basic edge guide, or is it worth it to get some of the extras for circle cutting or guide rail use?


not a comment I would expect at a Festool forum. I'm just say'n...  [wink]


That's funny... [thumbs up]...Recently I just wanted to purchase a Micro Fence that could be swapped between my 1010 & 1400 and was surprised at the price...upwards of $350 for the combination that would work.  [eek]

That's what I paid for my 5616 router + plunge base + edge guide + sales tax...

Having said that, the Milwaukee 5616 "Palm Router" is still my favorite for edge rounding tasks.  [popcorn]

I have this set-up and it is worth every penny. Smoothest and easiest fence to adjust. The prices are going up sometime soon when Richard launches the new website and I think he is giving a 10% discount now off of current pricing, so I would suggest moving on it if you are interested. I just bought the 1010 and Bosch Colt adapters to use between the two. Honestly I think that the 1400 and 2200 edge guides are very good from Festool so not worth it to me to spend the $40 price for adapters to fit each of those routers. I thought the 1010 edge guide is not very good and more of an after-thought. Having the MF system changes that. I have had one for  10 years or so now and I recommend it. Richard is a great guy too and quickly answers any questions.
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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2017, 03:49 PM »
@ScotF For the 1010 microfence option, do you just have the basic edge guide, or is it worth it to get some of the extras for circle cutting or guide rail use?


not a comment I would expect at a Festool forum. I'm just say'n...  [wink]


That's funny... [thumbs up]...Recently I just wanted to purchase a Micro Fence that could be swapped between my 1010 & 1400 and was surprised at the price...upwards of $350 for the combination that would work.  [eek]

That's what I paid for my 5616 router + plunge base + edge guide + sales tax...

Having said that, the Milwaukee 5616 "Palm Router" is still my favorite for edge rounding tasks.  [popcorn]

I have this set-up and it is worth every penny. Smoothest and easiest fence to adjust. The prices are going up sometime soon when Richard launches the new website and I think he is giving a 10% discount now off of current pricing, so I would suggest moving on it if you are interested. I just bought the 1010 and Bosch Colt adapters to use between the two. Honestly I think that the 1400 and 2200 edge guides are very good from Festool so not worth it to me to spend the $40 price for adapters to fit each of those routers. I thought the 1010 edge guide is not very good and more of an after-thought. Having the MF system changes that. I have had one for  10 years or so now and I recommend it. Richard is a great guy too and quickly answers any questions.

When I bought it I was using a DeWalt router at the time - so I ended up with the edge guide and circle cutting jigs as well as the jig to adapt that router to the Festool guide-rail system. I used the circle cutting jig and the edge guide with that router for years and never did use it with the guide rails. I just bought the adapter for the 1010 and the Colt since I sold my DeWalt. It had been a year or so since I last used until recently and I was reminded again why I like it so much using it with the 1010. A perfect combination! Oh - you can get it in metric if you are so inclined - mine is imperial because that is all they sold back in the day.

I have thought about adding the elipse jig to the kit but have not pulled the trigger - no real project in the immediate future. I also have though about getting the plunge base for my Colt - that thing looks like it is smooth and easy to maneuver. But, I like my 1010 for those same type of tasks so I have not pulled the trigger. The lights look great, though.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2017, 07:57 PM »
PC and Milwaukee fences lined up. They both also fit the PC compact router.
Didn't get a photo but the 5615, PC690, and the compact router can all use
the DeWalt router guide with the DeWalt track saw rail. Since the DeWalt router
rail guide fits those routers I would expect that the DeWalt router would fit the
PC and Milwaukee fences, but I don't have a DeWalt router to find out. I bought
the DeWalt router rail guide when I got my track saw and rails on the chance it
would fit one of my routers. They both did so I never bothered to get a DeWalt
router. I never would have bought the PC compact router but it came with my
Unisaw when they first came out with the new model 7 years ago.

the PC guide seems a little bulky for me with the big piece of bent sheet metal.
do you think this dewalt fence would work? https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW6913-Router-Adjustment-Adaptor/dp/B00002232W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495756462&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+router+guide

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2017, 09:44 PM »
PC and Milwaukee fences lined up. They both also fit the PC compact router.
Didn't get a photo but the 5615, PC690, and the compact router can all use
the DeWalt router guide with the DeWalt track saw rail. Since the DeWalt router
rail guide fits those routers I would expect that the DeWalt router would fit the
PC and Milwaukee fences, but I don't have a DeWalt router to find out. I bought
the DeWalt router rail guide when I got my track saw and rails on the chance it
would fit one of my routers. They both did so I never bothered to get a DeWalt
router. I never would have bought the PC compact router but it came with my
Unisaw when they first came out with the new model 7 years ago.

the PC guide seems a little bulky for me with the big piece of bent sheet metal.
do you think this dewalt fence would work? https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW6913-Router-Adjustment-Adaptor/dp/B00002232W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495756462&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+router+guide

Not sure, but it may. This is the router guide I bought to use with the DeWalt track.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dws5031
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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2017, 10:29 AM »
What makes the micro fence worth 10x the price of the manuf.'s standard offering ?  [scratch chin]

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2017, 10:24 AM »
What makes the micro fence worth 10x the price of the manuf.'s standard offering ?  [scratch chin]

On the left for $72 you get bent sheet metal, plastic brackets, a threaded bolt and no way to measure or set the distance.

On the right for $199 you get machined aluminum that's black anodized, machined stainless, machined brass and a scale graduated in .001".   [poke]
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 09:22 AM by Cheese »

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2017, 10:41 AM »
The micro fence is the best unit on the market and has been for years.

I have made some upgrades on mine that I wish the manufacture would implement, still for certain straight work and especially circle work I have found nothing better . 

I actually have 5 Micro fence set ups, three are circle jig set ups, the other two for edge guide.

The micro jigs really shine with matching radii or laying strips of wood in different dado widths.

The micro fence is more like a metal machine shop type tool made for wood. Most other  edge guides on the market are designed for wood in a sense the manufacturer do not seem to think woodworkers need the machine shop precision from the start.

The Micro fence edge guide and specially Circle jig changed the way I work in my shop as much as using Festool Plug it and dust collection has.
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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2017, 03:57 PM »
What makes the micro fence worth 10x the price of the manuf.'s standard offering ?  [scratch chin]

On the left for $72 you get bent sheet metal, plastic brackets, a threaded bolt, a threaded nut and no way to measure distance.

On the right for $199 you get machined aluminum black anodized, machined stainless, machined brass and a scale graduated in .001".   [poke]

I can see how micro is more expensive, but I still don't see where stainless rods are 10x better than anodized ones, nor that the machine block is 10x better than a stamped one.  Both are going to outlast my career.  Aside from the craftsmanship in the micro jig I just don't see it being 10x more functional. For the collector, sure it's waaaaay more stylish, but I still fail to recognize 10x more value.

For the record I think FT's is really worth what they're charging, but I've yet to find a alternative that's cheaper or even a better value.

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Re: Milwaukee router edge guide
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2017, 04:39 PM »
IMHO and for me personally the Micro fence is way more functional.

Measure a router bit with a caliper and use that measurement to dial in the Micro Fence jig to mate parts(I use .003) perfectly in seconds. I can't do that with anything else right now. Maybe others can do that with cheaper jigs, but for me the Micro Fence makes simple work of operations like that so for me so their jigs are worth every dime. Some their accessorizes are really expensive, but they are a smaller company and if I can pay Festool I can pay them.

I can make 3 inlays say 36.2", 42.3", 48.4" in diameter using the Micro Fence circle jig. Now say I need to make a perfect pocket for those to be glued into. All I have to do is turn the dial on the Micro Fence Jig exactly the offset amount needed based on the bit measurement. No messing around, it's a PERFECT every time.

That is 10 times more functional in my opinion, for me. I have not found any other jig that is accurate and more importantly precise enough to do that over and over again 20 times a week like I have to. The jig quality enables it to have accuracy and to hold it's precision.

I am frugal, if anything cheaper worked like that I would be using it. The Micro fence stuff is the closest I have ever used that is near as good as my CNC machines. I actually use the Micro Fence stuff instead of turning on my CNC quite often because its just faster in the end.

Yeah, I drank the Micro Fence Kool aid, but for years I struggled. Using their stuff makes my life so much easier in the shop I will be hard to convince their equipment isn't worth the money. Heck, ONE JOB paid of all 5 of the jigs. And I have one set I think must be near 15 years old and it still works like new.
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