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Offline Svar

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Milwaukee track saw
« on: August 23, 2018, 01:39 PM »
So Milwaukee makes this CS 85CBE track/carpentry saw for EU market but not for US. How is this fair?
https://www.milwaukeetool.eu/235-mm-circular-saw/cs-85-cbe-eu/


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Offline RussellS

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2018, 02:35 PM »
Fair???  Milwaukee is a business in business to make money.  They sell products that sell in the markets where customers buy them.  Track saws are well used and known in the European market.  Not in the USA.  Everyone uses a 7.25" Skilsaw circular saw.  Japanese planes and chisels are the de rigeur in Japan and Asia.  Yet in the USA we can only get them at specialty shops.  We are forced to use the old time western chisels and Stanley planes.  Japanese plane and chisel users swear by them.  Not Fair!  Many parts of the world use diesel cars.  USA uses almost only gasoline cars.  Diesel car users say they are better.  But they aren't sold in the USA.

Offline duburban

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2018, 02:37 PM »
Fair???  Milwaukee is a business in business to make money.  They sell products that sell in the markets where customers buy them.  Track saws are well used and known in the European market.  Not in the USA.  Everyone uses a 7.25" Skilsaw circular saw.  Japanese planes and chisels are the de rigeur in Japan and Asia.  Yet in the USA we can only get them at specialty shops.  We are forced to use the old time western chisels and Stanley planes.  Japanese plane and chisel users swear by them.  Not Fair!  Many parts of the world use diesel cars.  USA uses almost only gasoline cars.  Diesel car users say they are better.  But they aren't sold in the USA.

I think he was kidding a little..

I was just thinking if Milwaukee would ever add a track saw to their fuel line. Makita is on it (in the USA) so I can only imagine they've talked it over. Milwaukee is just knocking it out of the park right now with performance and range... I fully bought in, plastic rolly carts and all.
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Offline justaguy

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 02:39 PM »
Same situation for this tool - M12 BDDXKIT-202C


Offline Svar

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2018, 02:44 PM »
Fair???  Milwaukee is a business in business to make money. 
I think he was kidding a little..
Yes. I'll be adding smiley faces to my posts in the future.

Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2018, 03:22 PM »
American buyers are wary of 220v jobsite tools I think.   Re-engineering a specialized small market the tool to run on 110v may not be in Milwaukee's interest.  They don't want them burning up.

That said,  perhaps Milwaukee is trying it out in Europe because the market is friendlier in some ways there.  If it goes well they may consider entering the American market with a similar tool.

Who knows. Jack Welch, chairman of GE awhile back, turned the company around by selling off divisions which were not number 1 or number 2 in the markets they were in. If they were no. 3 in toasters in Brazil they quit selling them there.  It's still an influential business idea.

Offline Wooden Skye

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2018, 04:59 PM »
I just figured they adopted NAINA from a certain German tool manufacturer.
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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2018, 09:13 PM »
Milwaukee needs a true plunge Track Saw in their line-up.  Milwaukee has a big problem to overcome.  Milwaukee has been a Contrator Construction Tool Superstar for so long the brand is typecast in the role of being a contractor grade tool.   

They have done anything to change that image.  Dewalt and Makita have tools that have been used in professional woodworking for years. 

The competiton for plunge track saws is very stiff.  You have Bosch landing in the market with their saw this year.  Milwaukee’s biggest advantage is their battery technology.  Milwaukee has led the tool industry in battery performance. 

Makita battery tech has consistently lagged behind the performance of Milwaukee. 

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2018, 10:00 PM »
“The competiton for plunge track saws is very stiff”

Are you trying to convince Milwaukee that they shouldn’t waste time and money making yet another plunge track saw?

Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2018, 10:05 PM »
“The competiton for plunge track saws is very stiff”

Are you trying to convince Milwaukee that they shouldn’t waste time and money making yet another plunge track saw?

No, just that it’ll take Milwaukee a large amount of time to establish a presence in the finishing and woodworking industries that don’t necessary see Milwaukee as anything but a brand used by construction and trades.
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Offline gnlman

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Re: Milwaukee track saw
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 10:18 PM »
yeah ditto on the Milwaukee combo drill....have that platform with 2 drills and a driver...saw the bosch multi drill and was hopeful to get one for the m12...wife ended up surprising me with the bosch for xmas last year...cool drill very handy, only thing is the regular chuck slips on smaller bits...unlike my other drills....bosch will also start slower which is great when putting thngs like slides in cabinets ect...oh well I ended up with another charger...but it is handy and feels nice in the hand.
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