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Offline HowardH

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move over miter saw stations...
« on: January 20, 2019, 05:38 PM »
there's a new sheriff in town.  This looks like a very robust system that is highly adaptable.

Cut hub

It's a hybrid between a MFT and extension wings.  Pretty cool.
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Offline harry_

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 05:42 PM »
Prices start at $1500 and no coffee maker?  [eek]

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Offline HowardH

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 05:45 PM »
It's marketed to the big time commercial framing contractors so if it can really cut down the time it takes for making a lot of repetitive cuts, it will make them money.  I agree though for a hobbyist, it's way over kill but aren't most Festool products?   [big grin]
« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 06:02 PM by HowardH »
Howard H
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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 06:05 PM »
Nifty concept!

For larger projects with many repeated cuts I could see how this would pay for itself. I enjoy a custom, home made solution as much as the next craftsperson, but as a business owner it's important to remember: Labor is expensive.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 06:14 PM »
Manufacturer claims cutting on the “Cut Hub” (aka miter saw on stand) is faster than cutting on the ground with a handheld portable circular saw.

Who knew?!

Offline HowardH

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 06:20 PM »
It looks like the Festool extension wings on steroids.
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Offline JD2720

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2019, 06:23 PM »
Manufacturer claims cutting on the “Cut Hub” (aka miter saw on stand) is faster than cutting on the ground with a handheld portable circular saw.

Who knew?!

Cutting on saw horses is faster also. I have been using them for years.

Offline fritter63

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2019, 06:31 PM »
Video: "Rip Plywood Safely".... .while not wearing safety goggles.....

Online glass1

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2019, 07:20 PM »
Man. That pricing makes me appreciate the 4 complete(now multiple configurations for one saw) sawhelpers that I have collected used over the years for a couple of hundred bucks. And because the sawhelper is made from off the shelf steel parts, the legs stops etc.. if and when it needs a little help I just bring out the little mig. Honestly the unlimited power bench with some some off the shelf stop system like Kregg or others looks much better than this over priced over engineered thing. Or even the ez speedy fence.

Offline HowardH

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2019, 07:30 PM »
We need to keep in mind the target market of this system.  I don't think the flag stop on my wings or the Kreg stop was ever intended for rapid cutting of heavy materials, i.e. a 2x6 or 2x8, etc. Those sized boards have a lot of energy when moved quickly and I wouldn't want them bending the stops when moved into them too hard.  Their stop is closer in design to a TS fence and it looks very solid when locked down.  It's not for everyone.  I learned about this system watching this:



Although he was the first to admit it was expensive, he also raves about how much time it saves him and its accuracy.
Howard H
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2019, 07:30 PM »
I don't like the way the stop is positioned in the Cut Hub demo video (0:08 sec.)...it should be on the side where the hand holds down the piece.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2019, 07:33 PM by ChuckM »

Offline jobsworth

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2019, 11:47 AM »
for what I do, (If I didnt already have the festool) I would go with this system especially for table saws

http://rousseauco.com/portamax-model-2780.html

Offline Job and Knock

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2019, 06:38 AM »
Problem with the Rousseau is that it's just for table saws and TBH I don't think it confers any advantages at all to a crew who do more cutting on the SCMS or track saw than on the table saw. Whilst I wouldn't be able to get a full size Cut-Hub in on some of our jobs, on jobs, where I could the fact that it's portable, quick to set-up/take-down and allows multiple repeat cuts on the SCMS are big plusses. The price isn't, but then I've got £2.5k (c.$3k?) plus invested in my Kapex, mobile base, extensions, DW745 and vacuum so maybe I shouldn't carp too much. I reckon if it can save me 4 to 5 man hours a week it will pay for itself on the second job. Agreed on the target market - this is aimed fairly and squarely at the trade. Anyone seen one yet and able to comment on weight, build quality/durability, etc?
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Offline jobsworth

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 11:00 AM »

Offline Job and Knock

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Re: move over miter saw stations...
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2019, 04:03 PM »
Yes, but it has no provision for length stops out of the box, an essential for repetitive cuts. It's also steel and so is probably heavy. TBH I already have a Kapex with the UG stand and extensions so there's little if any benefit in shelling out for the Rousseau. It doesn't give me enough extra to warrant the expenditure. For me there is absolutely no advantage in having the Rousseau table saw stand, either, because whilst that gives me additional rip width capacity (simply not required -  we just don't rip down 8 x 4 sheets of material on a site saw) but doesn't address the problem of outfeed support, which the Cut Hub does provide. Bear in mind that I am 100% site based these days on relatively fast-paced commercial jobs and that does colour my thinking a lot
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 04:06 PM by Job and Knock »
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