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Offline PaulH99

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2017, 12:29 PM »
My hope is to buy it locally so that I can open the box and inspect the table with a straightedge before making the actual purchase. I don't know how thrilled they will be with me doing that, but my response will be, "How are you any better than Amazon if I can't check it before buying it?"


Since in your basement like me, just hope for no "major" table flatness problems.  After getting it unboxed, full setup(some not in the manual), you'll dread doing that in reverse.  I have read of one table that was so bad that the fence rubbed on it while moving it.
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Offline wptski

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2017, 02:30 PM »
My hope is to buy it locally so that I can open the box and inspect the table with a straightedge before making the actual purchase. I don't know how thrilled they will be with me doing that, but my response will be, "How are you any better than Amazon if I can't check it before buying it?"
Well, the stand is in its own box and the table is just covered with plastic.  When the box is opened, the table could be lifted out but that's lifting it >26" above the box at least that height something I couldn't do so I had to lay it down, slide the stand box out first.  You'll need some help and a bit of floor space too.  My Lowe's store is cluttered up and it took three people to get the box out from where it was stored.  My initial check with a Peckerhead 3' straight edge which looked real good but not as good when I got it up on a table.

I've only made a few cuts and the table hasn't affected any of them yet but I think that at one time or the other it will.

The last time I looked, Amazon price went back up, shipping was free but they charged sales tax.  I waited for a 11% off at Lowe's to purchase mine but they stopped that "At the register 11% off promos" to compete with Menard's so I get that 11% back as a gift card.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2017, 09:02 PM »
Paul - I think you'll like the saw.  Great choice.

When it's uppacked and setup, I'd go through the full adjustment procedure - I think it's outlined in the manual
 - squaring the fence to the miter slots
 - checking the blade alignment to the miter slots
 - adjusting the blade tilt to cut square to the table
 - adjusting the fence measurement so it is accurate to the blade


I seem to recall there are videos on YouTube that go over this to make it easy.

I bought my hose from Rockler - http://www.rockler.com/12-ft-heavy-duty-shop-vacuum-hose-kit.  That hose can be cut in half to go from the over blade dust collection unit to the box, and then from the box to the vac.  I just used a hole saw on my drill press to cut a press-fit hole for the lower port and two for the hose.  It will connect to the Festool or a Shop Vac.

Let me know and I can take a photo of the adapter box I made if you are interested for connecting the upper and lower dust ports to one vac.  Pretty simple and it works well. 

Good luck!



« Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 09:05 PM by neilc »

Offline wptski

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2017, 09:46 PM »
Paul - I think you'll like the saw.  Great choice.

When it's uppacked and setup, I'd go through the full adjustment procedure - I think it's outlined in the manual
 - squaring the fence to the miter slots
 - checking the blade alignment to the miter slots
 - adjusting the blade tilt to cut square to the table
 - adjusting the fence measurement so it is accurate to the blade


I seem to recall there are videos on YouTube that go over this to make it easy.

I bought my hose from Rockler - http://www.rockler.com/12-ft-heavy-duty-shop-vacuum-hose-kit.  That hose can be cut in half to go from the over blade dust collection unit to the box, and then from the box to the vac.  I just used a hole saw on my drill press to cut a press-fit hole for the lower port and two for the hose.  It will connect to the Festool or a Shop Vac.

Let me know and I can take a photo of the adapter box I made if you are interested for connecting the upper and lower dust ports to one vac.  Pretty simple and it works well. 

Good luck!




All but aligning the miter slot to the blade or moving the trunnion, don't think I missed that gem(PITA) anyways.

I bushed down a 2 1/2" "Y" to fit my vacuum but don't get much suction to the blade guard not that one gains much dust collection there even with a separate vacuum.
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Offline PaulH99

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2017, 05:43 AM »
@neilc

The setup procedure sounds similar to other table saws, but thank you! I likely would have forgotten a step. Others have mentioned "adapter box" as well and I'm unsure of what they mean. I'd like to take you up on the offer of a picture of yours.

Paul - I think you'll like the saw.  Great choice.

When it's uppacked and setup, I'd go through the full adjustment procedure - I think it's outlined in the manual
 - squaring the fence to the miter slots
 - checking the blade alignment to the miter slots
 - adjusting the blade tilt to cut square to the table
 - adjusting the fence measurement so it is accurate to the blade

I seem to recall there are videos on YouTube that go over this to make it easy.

I bought my hose from Rockler - http://www.rockler.com/12-ft-heavy-duty-shop-vacuum-hose-kit.  That hose can be cut in half to go from the over blade dust collection unit to the box, and then from the box to the vac.  I just used a hole saw on my drill press to cut a press-fit hole for the lower port and two for the hose.  It will connect to the Festool or a Shop Vac.

Let me know and I can take a photo of the adapter box I made if you are interested for connecting the upper and lower dust ports to one vac.  Pretty simple and it works well.

Good luck!
-Paul
CT 26 • DF 500 • ETS 125 • KS 120 • OF 1400 • PS 430 • RO 125 • TS 55 R

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2017, 02:33 PM »
Check out this deal on the DeWalt DW745:


@ Slick Deals .net, for some reason FOG blocks that website.


.net/f/10169056-dewalt-model-dw745-15-amp-10-in-compact-job-site-table-saw-250-fs-at-hd


Price should be $250 at checkout at Home Depot:


http://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-15-Amp-10-in-Compact-Job-Site-Table-Saw-DW745/100497987
« Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 02:58 PM by ben_r_ »
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Offline wptski

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2017, 02:51 PM »
Check out this deal on the DeWalt DW745: LINK
DNS error on your LINK.  That model is a bit different, miter slot aren't "T" slots for one.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 02:55 PM by wptski »
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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2017, 02:59 PM »
Check out this deal on the DeWalt DW745: LINK
DNS error on your LINK.  That model is a bit different, miter slot aren't "T" slots for one.
Fixed. I think. See that post.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2017, 05:37 PM »
Paul -


Here's a sketchup drawing.  Box overall is about 5.5" square made from 1/2 baltic birch ply.


The holes were cut to fit the dust collection input on the saw side and the two hose holes were cut to 1.96" to offer a tight fit for 2" hose from Rockler that goes up to the over blade guard and out to the vac.


Easy to slip on or remove as warranted.  When not using the overarm dust collection, I just plug the hole in the box with a rag.


Neil

Offline PaulH99

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2017, 06:00 AM »
Now that makes more sense. Thank you for the drawing! You're using this as crazy "Y" adapter because there are three different hose sizes involved. Is the over-blade dust collection effective on the DeWalt table saw?
-Paul
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Offline neilc

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2017, 08:00 AM »
In my case, only two hole sizes.  The top and front holes are the same size and fit the Rockler hose I referenced above. 


In my case I measured with a Caliper and cut the holes with a CNC.  That let me do a press fit for easy removal of the box.

The over blade collection definitely helps with dust.  But you do need to plan for hose management of you are doing a wide rip on sheet goods so keep that in mind before you cut your hose.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 08:02 AM by neilc »

Offline wptski

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Re: Need Help Choosing a Compact Table Saw
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2017, 08:30 AM »
Now that makes more sense. Thank you for the drawing! You're using this as crazy "Y" adapter because there are three different hose sizes involved. Is the over-blade dust collection effective on the DeWalt table saw?
If your expecting a clean table, it isn't going to happen.  I helps more so with airborne particles, bigger pieces still end up on the table depending on the material, type and size of the cut.

I used hose from a 1 1/2" kit purchased at Lowe's with one end fits over the blade guard fitting.  I used an adapter from some other kit I had that screw on to that size hose also.  I bushed down the 2 1/2" "Y" adapter with PVC pipe/fittings with a 1 degree tapered hole for a snug fit.  I used another PVC cap fitting with a 1 degree taper to cap the opening when not in use.  The other opening I used PVC pipe and nylon to bush down for a 1 1/4" hose on a Fein vacuum with another 1 degree tapered hole.  As mentioned above, I lose vacuum up at the blade guard for some reason but it's stronger at the "Y" fitting! [unsure]
Bill
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