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Offline Gregor

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New interesting stuff coming to the market
« on: December 14, 2018, 08:37 PM »
Quite some interestign stuff in


I personally found interesting:
Makita battery powered chopsaw (18:38).
Metabo sliding miter saw, dust collection on it seem to be rudimentary though, but can be powered either by a 36V battery or a mains connector in battery pack form (20:00).

And certainly the Diablo saw blades (2:16, 3:05, 9:17) making quick work of metal and wood - that get advertised to sell at 22$ retail price [eek]. I really hope these will come in TS 55, 75 and KS 120 compatible to Europe, at some point.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2018, 08:46 PM by Gregor »

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Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2018, 03:41 PM »
Do you mean the Metabo HPT - i.e HiKOKI 36V mitre saw, formerly known as Hitachi?

Metabo does not have a 36V mitre saw in the stable and AFAIK not working on one but that sweet 7 1/2" and a 10" from HiKOKI/Metabo HPT (Hitachi Power Tools) has been announced and out on demo for a while.

The renaming of Hitachi is a huge mistake and cause for some funny, some awkward and some really frustrating moments further down the line... 
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Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2018, 03:59 PM »
The renaming of Hitachi is a huge mistake and cause for some funny, some awkward and some really frustrating moments further down the line...

Well, Hitachi may have a good reason for renaming their tools division. The quality of the tools may become worse, to make more money, as happens a lot. Don’t forget there is also Hitachi Nuclear Energy….
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Offline Gregor

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Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2018, 08:27 PM »
Do you mean the Metabo HPT - i.e HiKOKI 36V mitre saw, formerly known as Hitachi?
I posted the time (mm:ss) behind the things so you can locate it quickly in the video.

Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2018, 04:34 AM »
Do you mean the Metabo HPT - i.e HiKOKI 36V mitre saw, formerly known as Hitachi?
I posted the time (mm:ss) behind the things so you can locate it quickly in the video.

Thanks!

It is indeed the HiKoki (formerly known as Hitachi ) saw. Hitachi no longer allows the use of their brand name after selling off the tool division. The original name Hitachi Koki was thus shortened to HiKoki. Koki, I think, simply means Tools.

So, the brand confusion has already begun, that saw is a HiKoki/Hitachi/Metabo HPT and NOT a bonafied Metabo.  ::)

It does not take Metabo batteries. So don't get it in the hopes of expanding your Metabo line up!
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline Gregor

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Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2018, 05:38 AM »
It does not take Metabo batteries. So don't get it in the hopes of expanding your Metabo line up!
But, as far as I understood the video around 21:00, on the new tools they showcase there.

Moot for me anyway as it's NICE (not in central europe), though I post it as it might be interesting for you in the US.

Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2018, 09:28 AM »
Gregor:

No, none of the tools from Metabo HPT are compatible with Metabo. The tools he is talking about are the 36V MultiVolt tools - batteries that are compatible downstream to the existing Hitachi 18V (a.k.a Metabo HPT) line.

New 36V tools with new 36V batteries (four charge indicator bars) that are compatible with 18V former Hitachi tools. A 2,5Ah 36V becomes a 5Ah 18V. 18V batteries cannot be used on the 36V machines though.

Almost all 36V tools can use the a/c adapter.

Metabo does not have MultiVolt.

I have said it before: the Metabo HPT name is a very stupid move by Metabo and HiKoki - brand confusion will not help.
Metabo and Metabo HPT?   C'mon Metabo... It is evident in the videos already that the confusion is there already...

In Europe and the rest of the world (I am in Sweden) HiKoki will be easy to adapt to: tools look the same and the name makes sense, it is simply a shortening of Hitachi Koki to HiKoki.   
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New interesting stuff coming to the market
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2018, 10:37 AM »
The renaming of Hitachi is a huge mistake and cause for some funny, some awkward and some really frustrating moments further down the line...

Well, Hitachi may have a good reason for renaming their tools division. The quality of the tools may become worse, to make more money, as happens a lot. Don’t forget there is also Hitachi Nuclear Energy….

Yeah, The Hitachi Compound Fission Saw is great, those Fast Neutron Blades go thru just about anything with ease.