Author Topic: New One Time Tool - Woodpeckers GB225 Guage Block(pocket set up square)  (Read 5601 times)

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Offline Bob D.

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Didn't find a post about this recent One Time Tool. Looks to be designed specifically
for tool set up. I'm trying to figure out why it's not red like the majority of their tools.
I guess because it is stainless and not aluminum.

Order deadline is 6/19/17 and it ships on 7/20/17.

« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 09:12 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline ben_r_

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The Delve Square was a way more useful tool than this looks to be. Some of the products they choose for OTTs are just weird.

And yes its not red because you cant color stainless steel like the anodizing on aluminum can be died.


Id skip this one and get the Jessem Tool Setting Gauge: LINK
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Offline SRSemenza

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The scale on the broad edge is a nice idea. And wide/thick enough to free stand.

On that Jessem , which looks like a good set up tool, the description says adjustable in 1/16" increments. I wonder if it really means that or if it means the scale is in 1/16" increments.

Seth

Offline Bob D.

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The scale on the broad edge is a nice idea. And wide/thick enough to free stand.

On that Jessem , which looks like a good set up tool, the description says adjustable in 1/16" increments. I wonder if it really means that or if it means the scale is in 1/16" increments.

Seth

Either way doesn't make sense. One would certainly want the rule marking to 64th of an inch. I liked that the GB225 has both metric and imperial scales on it. Yes, the Delve Square looks like it's more useful, being able to do more than the GB225. The JessEm gauge would be nice at the router table, and works for setting table saw blade height too. I would get the Delve square is they were still available.
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Offline clark_fork

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This one would be formidable in a bar fight or for dealing with pesky reporters in Montana.  [laughing]
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Online Cheese

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I purchased the GB175 version (1.75") that they made for Woodcraft many years ago. I keep it with the metal lathe for setups, it is quite handy.

Love the scales on the GB225... [big grin]
« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 12:42 PM by Cheese »

Offline ben_r_

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On that Jessem , which looks like a good set up tool, the description says adjustable in 1/16" increments. I wonder if it really means that or if it means the scale is in 1/16" increments.

Seth
Its actually tiny notched teeth in 1/16" increments so you get a positive and highly repeatable ridge to "click" the height gauge into.
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On that Jessem , which looks like a good set up tool, the description says adjustable in 1/16" increments. I wonder if it really means that or if it means the scale is in 1/16" increments.

Seth
Its actually tiny notched teeth in 1/16" increments so you get a positive and highly repeatable ridge to "click" the height gauge into.

I like that idea but the trade off is being limited to 1/16" increments. Generally enough but 1/32 would be better. Though maybe not practical to do in a tool of that design.

Seth

Offline live4ever

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Two things -
1)  Finally, a OTT that doesn't require a half-year wait
2)  Wish I could get it without the box (completely useless to me) and pay like $10 less.
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Offline ben_r_

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Two things -
1)  Finally, a OTT that doesn't require a half-year wait
2)  Wish I could get it without the box (completely useless to me) and pay like $10 less.
Seriously.
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Offline wptski

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The Delve Square was a way more useful tool than this looks to be. Some of the products they choose for OTTs are just weird.

And yes its not red because you cant color stainless steel like the anodizing on aluminum can be died.


Id skip this one and get the Jessem Tool Setting Gauge: LINK
From WP site: Deadline to order yours is Monday, February 20, 2017. Once the deadline passes the Delve Square will be retired from our product line.
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Offline ben_r_

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The Delve Square was a way more useful tool than this looks to be. Some of the products they choose for OTTs are just weird.

And yes its not red because you cant color stainless steel like the anodizing on aluminum can be died.


Id skip this one and get the Jessem Tool Setting Gauge: LINK
From WP site: Deadline to order yours is Monday, February 20, 2017. Once the deadline passes the Delve Square will be retired from our product line.
Its a "One Time" Tool that they have brought back a couple times. Set up an alert on eBay in the app to watch for one. They pop up every once in a while. I got mine brand new for $35 that way.
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Offline wptski

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Its a "One Time" Tool that they have brought back a couple times. Set up an alert on eBay in the app to watch for one. They pop up every once in a while. I got mine brand new for $35 that way.
If that's what "One Time Tool" means why does it state "retired" then?
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Offline live4ever

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Its a "One Time" Tool that they have brought back a couple times. Set up an alert on eBay in the app to watch for one. They pop up every once in a while. I got mine brand new for $35 that way.
If that's what "One Time Tool" means why does it state "retired" then?

Because just like a person, it can change its mind and re-enter the workforce.
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Offline ben_r_

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Its a "One Time" Tool that they have brought back a couple times. Set up an alert on eBay in the app to watch for one. They pop up every once in a while. I got mine brand new for $35 that way.
If that's what "One Time Tool" means why does it state "retired" then?
They do that with all of them. You never know when or if an OTT will come back, but many do. Its their sales/marketing angle/gimmick.
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Offline Bob D.

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If you're interested in a one time tool you can sign up on their web site and let them know. They say if there is enough interest then they consider making another run. I'm sure we all recognize that they can't make a dozen or so at a time and still make a profit. There is a bit of time in the machine setup/programming, etc. I have no idea how many of this or that it takes to make it worth doing another run but there is a point where it becomes profitable. Looking at history of the one time tools it seems that popular items make a resurgence every couple years.
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Offline live4ever

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If you're interested in a one time tool you can sign up on their web site and let them know. They say if there is enough interest then they consider making another run. I'm sure we all recognize that they can't make a dozen or so at a time and still make a profit. There is a bit of time in the machine setup/programming, etc. I have no idea how many of this or that it takes to make it worth doing another run but there is a point where it becomes profitable. Looking at history of the one time tools it seems that popular items make a resurgence every couple years.

It stands to reason that they figured out they could nest this tool into the stainless blanks they were using for production of another OTT, hence the quick turnaround. 
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Offline Bob D.

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Nothing wrong with that as I see it. No use letting offcut material go to waste. We all do the same in our shops don't we.
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Offline live4ever

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I wasn't implying that as a bad thing, just as another explanation (in addition to customer requests) that an OTT may un-retire.
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Offline RKA

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I knew I had seen this before.  Identical to a freebie BCT gave away to customers that were inconvenienced by an issue.  So many liked them that they ran a small batch of them. Looks like WP added a few scales, dropped the foot and doubled the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/default/tools/in-production/mms-1-mini-miter-square.html
-Raj

Offline Bob D.

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I like the embedded magnets on the Bridge City tool. That would make it stick firmly to cast iron tool surfaces.
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Online Cheese

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The old GB225 rather reminds me of the closet rod brackets I fabricated for the loft closet... [doh]

Offline live4ever

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The old GB225 rather reminds me of the closet rod brackets I fabricated for the loft closet... [doh]

Those are slick Cheese.  Can I ask what the two smaller holes are for?
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Online Cheese

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Those are slick Cheese.  Can I ask what the two smaller holes are for?

Just for looks...those are actually two different sized holes chosen to balance the area of the triangle because there is more real estate on the bottom.  [smile]

Offline Claimdude

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Ordered mine yesterday and got a USPS shipping number today!

Jack

PS, I have a lot of red stuff and this is by and away the quickest shipment for a 1 time tool! Unfortunately the dowel maker that was to ship this month has been pushed back to July ;-9

Offline lunchman

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Two things -
1)  Finally, a OTT that doesn't require a half-year wait
2)  Wish I could get it without the box (completely useless to me) and pay like $10 less.

On their website today it's listed for sale with or without the case. Looks as if they listened to you as without a case it's $10 cheaper!

Offline live4ever

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Two things -
1)  Finally, a OTT that doesn't require a half-year wait
2)  Wish I could get it without the box (completely useless to me) and pay like $10 less.

On their website today it's listed for sale with or without the case. Looks as if they listened to you as without a case it's $10 cheaper!

Ha!
Well, I might snag it now...needed to put in an order for miscellaneous doodads at WP anyways.  I guess worse come to worse I could always use it as a snazzy closet rod holder.  [poke]
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Online Cheese

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Ha!
Well, I might snag it now...needed to put in an order for miscellaneous doodads at WP anyways.  I guess worse come to worse I could always use it as a snazzy closet rod holder.  [poke]


To keep that option available...you'll have to purchase 2 of them.  [poke]

Offline Birdhunter

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Got mine today. Well made as one would expect. My guess is that there will be a larger version in the future.
Birdhunter

Offline The.Handyman

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I am debating between this and the JessEm, which is a fair amount more expensive, surprisingly.

Offline Birdhunter

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I was worried about being able to see the scale when setting a saw or router height. Got the idea of adding a strip of black electrical tape at the desired height on the block. Makes it easy to see and doesn't mark up the block.
Birdhunter

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Offline Bob D.

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Got mine today. Well made as one would expect. My guess is that there will be a larger version in the future.

You received the GB255 today? I thought they weren't shipping until July.
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Offline Birdhunter

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I must be very special? Yes, I've got one.
Birdhunter

Offline Trevin

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Got mine on Saturday....  darn quick....

Offline clark_fork

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Perfect three minute solution for setting leveling screws in new router table.

Clark Fork

"A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths."  Stephen Wright

"straight, smooth and square" Mr. Russell, first day high school shop class-1954

" What's the good of it?" My Sainted Grandmother

"You can't be too rich, too thin or have too many clamps." After my introduction to pocket joinery and now the MFT work process

"Don't make something unless it is both made necessary and useful; but if it is both necessary and useful,
don't hesitate to make it beautiful." -- Shaker dictum