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Offline Jungle8888

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Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« on: February 27, 2018, 09:52 AM »
I've been struggling to get an accurate rip of styles and rails on my cabinet builds because the Ridgid portable saw I have sucks.

So I've been looking to get a contractor/hybrid/cabinet saw which will fit in my small basement workshop and have spend many hours researching and was going to get the Delta 36-735 from lowes but there is a Laguna Fusion on sale on Kijiji and it seems to be a better option and the trunion is frame mounted.

I haven't been able to find any bad reviews and seems to be built to last.

Kijiji Laguna Fusion

It comes with an Exaktor 36" Crosscut Sliding Table (Model EX26) and outfeed table and is asking for $1990

The Laguna Fusion goes for $1699 + 13% tax and the seller wants $1300 firm
Everything looks mint from the pictures but my concern is that if anything breaks, it'll be $$ and time to get it fixed.

I haven't been able to find out how much the Exaktor crosscut sliding table is worth.
It is not essential for me but I could use it if the price is right.

What do you guys/gals think?

As always, I very much appreciate all your feedback!

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Offline Billedis

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 11:17 AM »
I would pass on that saw as for the same money you can get a Sawstop jobsite saw.  I have had one for over a year, and it is an excellent piece of machinery.  Bill

Offline JCLP

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2018, 11:26 AM »
I've heard that Delta has moved out of Canada. Lowes must bring them in from the states. Trying to find a service depot in Canada could be difficult.
As for the Laguna, I too have been eyeing that ad as I'm in the market for a new saw as well. I am leaning towards Sawstop, more money, but I haven't made up my mind yet.

Cheers,
JC

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2018, 11:35 AM »
I would pass on that saw as for the same money you can get a Sawstop jobsite saw.  I have had one for over a year, and it is an excellent piece of machinery.  Bill

Thanks @Billedis , how’s the accuracy of your sawstop?

I guess from my experience using my old Ridgid,
I’m leaning towards a caninet saw

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 11:40 AM »
I've heard that Delta has moved out of Canada. Lowes must bring them in from the states. Trying to find a service depot in Canada could be difficult.
As for the Laguna, I too have been eyeing that ad as I'm in the market for a new saw as well. I am leaning towards Sawstop, more money, but I haven't made up my mind yet.

Cheers,
JC

Haa... i have a competitor @JCLP  ;D
The problem for me with the laguna, if bought new is that it comes with only one year warranty
That is short for the amount of $$

Are u looking at the jobsite, contractor or cabinet sawstop?

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2018, 11:41 AM »
@Billedis  The similar Sawstop product, the Profesional Cabinet Saw comes to $3250CA with the 1.75hp, I would go only for the 3hp at $3830CA Sawstop @ LeeValley

@Jungle8888 Personally I would also pass on it. However if you are close to Brampton it worth a visit. That way you can have a look at how a Laguna saw operate. Bring some hard wood lumber with you  [wink]

Mario

Offline Billedis

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2018, 11:43 AM »
Accuracy is great.  The table is aluminum and small, but for rails and stiles it is great.  I have my festool for breaking down 4x8 sheets of plywood.  I had a Grizzly 10" 3hp cabinet saw with 52" table and "T" style fence.  It was great, but took up too much room.  I watched Ron Paulk's videos on his converting to sawstop jobsite saws and was sold.  I have two friends with sawstop contractor saws and they are nice, but not nearly as compact as mine. 

I also opted for the dust collection guard, and dust is at a minimum.

Good luck on what ever way you plan on going.

Bill

Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 11:43 AM »
There's not much on a table saw that size with cast iron components that will just go and break on you.   Some older saws used hard have problems with the adjustment wheel shafts getting bent, even shearing off, or teeth on the mechanisms breaking off.  That's usually a sign of hard use and neglect.

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 04:38 PM »
Accuracy is great.  The table is aluminum and small, but for rails and stiles it is great.  I have my festool for breaking down 4x8 sheets of plywood.  I had a Grizzly 10" 3hp cabinet saw with 52" table and "T" style fence.  It was great, but took up too much room.  I watched Ron Paulk's videos on his converting to sawstop jobsite saws and was sold.  I have two friends with sawstop contractor saws and they are nice, but not nearly as compact as mine. 

I also opted for the dust collection guard, and dust is at a minimum.

Good luck on what ever way you plan on going.

Bill

Thanks @Billedis

I'm leaning more towards getting a sawstop but i'm torn between the JSS and the PCS.
I worry that down the road, I will want to upgrade to the PCS and I should just bite the bullet and get the PCS now.
I'm the type who measures with a caliper to check the accuracy.


Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 04:42 PM »
@Billedis  The similar Sawstop product, the Profesional Cabinet Saw comes to $3250CA with the 1.75hp, I would go only for the 3hp at $3830CA Sawstop @ LeeValley

@Jungle8888 Personally I would also pass on it. However if you are close to Brampton it worth a visit. That way you can have a look at how a Laguna saw operate. Bring some hard wood lumber with you  [wink]

Thanks @Mario Turcot , I'm an hour away from Brampton
I'm leaning towards the sawstop because my fingers are worth at least a $1000 each, but my wife would say otherwise  [smile]

Would I be able to buy the JSS from Lee Valley and if I'm not satisfied, return it and get the PCS?

Offline fshanno

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2018, 12:38 AM »
If you're going to all the trouble of setting up a cabinet saw I say get a 3hp (or bigger if you can stand it).  Power does matter for furniture making even for hobbyists.
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Offline LooseSox

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2018, 02:18 AM »
I've had the saw stop jss for over a year now. At first I thought I should have got the larger version, but after getting a ts55 I'm more thsn happy with that combo. It was goid out of the box, but I spent a couple of hours fine tuning it and now its great, within 0.12mm over 2400mm. The ability to pick it up (albeit a strugtle!) and get it in the boot 9f the car for the occasional on site job plus the ability to fold up out the way when not in use is a massive help in my current sized shop.

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2018, 02:44 AM »
If you're going to all the trouble of setting up a cabinet saw I say get a 3hp (or bigger if you can stand it).  Power does matter for furniture making even for hobbyists.

@fshanno , haa, I was actually looking into how to get a 220v circuit installed  :)

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2018, 03:14 AM »
I've had the saw stop jss for over a year now. At first I thought I should have got the larger version, but after getting a ts55 I'm more thsn happy with that combo. It was goid out of the box, but I spent a couple of hours fine tuning it and now its great, within 0.12mm over 2400mm. The ability to pick it up (albeit a strugtle!) and get it in the boot 9f the car for the occasional on site job plus the ability to fold up out the way when not in use is a massive help in my current sized shop.

Thanks @LooseSox , that is pretty accurate!
I'm in the final stages of my makeup station and vanity builds and will take a couple of weeks to be 100% complete, so won't using a table saw, so I will have time to ponder on what I choose.
Next projects are making 2 more bathroom vanities and replacing 52 kitchen cabinet doors and drawer faces so having a "safe" and accurate table saw would really help.

BTW, sawstop in North America currently has a promo for a free upgrade for the PCS, either the Overarm Dust Collection or Integrated Mobile Base until end of April.  So I will most likely make my decision by then.

http://www.sawstop.ca/upgrade#upgrade-page

Offline LooseSox

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2018, 03:24 AM »
All good mate. Saw stops over head blade guards with ectraction are amazing! I got one for the jss and hardly anything escapes it, even using massive amounts of mdf.

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2018, 06:43 PM »
I was able to get approval from my wife last night so I picked up a 3HP PCS today before she changes her mind :)

Now to bring it in the basement...

Any suggestions, my neighbour will be helping me out.?
He told me to rent a fridge dolly from home depot, strap it up

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 02:45 PM »
Yep fridge trolley will do, I moved mine (400lbs) with my son and it was easy. Just be safe and go slowly, make sure you have enough room at the stairs bottom if you need to turn around  ::)

Mario
Mario

Offline Jungle8888

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Re: Opinions on getting a lightly used Laguna Fusion table saw
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2018, 05:07 AM »
Yep fridge trolley will do, I moved mine (400lbs) with my son and it was easy. Just be safe and go slowly, make sure you have enough room at the stairs bottom if you need to turn around  ::)

Mario

Thanks Mario, two of my neighbors helped me move it down to the basement, so all good.  :)

Now assembling the cast iron wings was really a pain and I still cannot get the right one flat, there is a bow towards the end of the wing.  Been working with sawstop support and will try to get a replacement which I hoping will turn out OK.