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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2011, 11:22 AM » |
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Kreg, you better be careful about looking too fancy, your customers may start thinking you charge too much. A coat and tie may go well with that beautiful new bag, but your oldest work clothes will be better in the long run.  |
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Tim Raleigh
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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2011, 03:07 PM » |
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...been using my tool bag for 4 days now and it has been working out very well. I find that I put tools back in it at the end of the day and don't have to look for them the next day so that is a time saver. It is not that heave and I have cut down my trips to the van to get one tool or another as I used to do as now they are all right there
Yes I could have done that with my veto bags but I usually did not. And both customers also made note of what a nice tool bag.
Kreg: Thanks for the update. It will be interested to see what you think in a couple months...after the honeymoon is over that is. The Festool tool box I use works, and it does keep things organized but I often have to pull the insert out and the tools that I have on the top layer spill out all over the place. Not the most convenient system. I find the hardest part about these bags is the weekly purge of tools that found their way into the bag/box that just aren't getting used and are just loading it down. Tim BTW, if you wear your bandanna with a suit you might set off a fashion trend. |
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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2011, 04:40 PM » |
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Well been using my tool bag for 4 days now and it has been working out very well. I find that I put tools back in it at the end of the day and don't have to look for them the next day so that is a time saver. It is not that heave and I have cut down my trips to the van to get one tool or another as I used to do as now they are all right there
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That's good Kreg. I guess the cost of this baby  gives you some incentive to keep it in order. If that's what it takes, then so be it. |
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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2011, 05:49 PM » |
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Kreg
Good for you. You obviously really liked that bag & can afford it so why not. I don't drink or smoke but my vice is definitely fine tools. If it gives you a little bit of pleasure every working day then it is worth every penny. You obviously care a lot about what you do, its not just a job to you.
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too
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Big Al
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« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2011, 02:10 AM » |
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Ironic...isn't it? Festool owners complaining about the price! Who'da thunk it?  |
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« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2011, 07:18 AM » |
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Big al yep that is funny. One of the reasons I posted it here is to see all the bitchen and complaining about price from festool owners!
In business models of the pie chart. Certain percentages go to mfg , advertising ,retail mark up and profit plus Raw goods
And the percentages are usually all the same for every product. So in that respect it's the same price as all other tools and tool bags and a loaf of bread.
And even our projects that our customers pay us for our work some are priced more than others due to better materials beter quality work expenses etc
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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2011, 10:40 AM » |
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One of the reasons I posted it here is to see all the bitchen and complaining about price from festool owners!
Kreg, I believe most of the guys here are just yankin' your chain a little. Of course, this being a Festool forum, we all "get it". There's no better feeling than being able work every day with top quality tools and equipment. The absolute best we can each afford. In fact, even though I like my Veto bag very much, you and Gary Katz now have me eyeing "The Doctor".  |
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2011, 12:33 PM » |
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One detail that has been left out in all the DISCUSSIONS is , I don't believe Occi lets you try it out for 30 days to see if you like it.
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« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2011, 07:28 PM » |
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One detail that has been left out in all the DISCUSSIONS is , I don't believe Occi lets you try it out for 30 days to see if you like it.
That's because the cows won't take their leather back.  |
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Laminator
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« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2011, 07:42 PM » |
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Looks like you got a really nice bag and had to pay for it. If it makes your work more efficient, which i'm sure it will, it will pay for itself while giving you the pleasure of using a fine product. About 13 yrs ago I bought a leather 8"x8" leather tool tote made by IDEAL( or at least made for them), and every job I took it to other tradesmen came to drool over it and wanted to know where I got it and did they have any more etc. Then the inevitable question..."How much was it?" and when I told them "aww about $150 bucks or so", their expression changed dramatically. "Man you must have wanted it bad" or" Man they saw you coming" were the most common remarks but you know what, The bag still works as good today as it did then! About a year later I bought the second which is set up with cordless impact, screws, drill bits, ets(I call it my drill bag) and its still going strong as when it was new. $300.00 or $495.00 spread over 12 yrs of constant usage is a bargain in my book. One day my sons will inherit those tool bags and maybe their sons also one day.
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« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2011, 06:50 AM » |
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Yep how true it is quality last and is less expensive over the long run than crap which falls apart 4-5 times over
Thanks for sharing
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« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2011, 02:27 PM » |
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Kreg, I have the Dr! Occidental is an awesome company, I have seven of their products dating back to the late 70's, ok I am an old guy! HOWEVER, the cost has averaged out to be about $7 dollars /year! NOt bad for an old guy, I have had my bags repaired 2 x now over the past 12 years and oh yes, the cost! They are a 100% AMERICAN MADE COMPANY! All their stuff is made in AMERICA! That means it is pricey but it is supporting us all in our own country, how cool is THAT?  |
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« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2011, 05:00 PM » |
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Welcome to the FOG Red  |
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too
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« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2011, 08:47 PM » |
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Hey red. Welcome and thanks. Yep they make good quality stuff. And that bag is awesome. Glad you got one.
Just like festools you get good long lasting tools and over the long run they are less per use than any other tool out there!
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« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2011, 04:35 AM » |
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Thanks for the entertaining review. This has been added to my want list. For a quality hand crafted American made product, the price is reasonable. This is coming from a machinist/engineer that manufactures high end low volume products locally.
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« Reply #75 on: June 05, 2011, 11:03 PM » |
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I have a tool belt set that was around $400. Bought them in 2005 and I have to say the comfort,fit and durability was worth it. The selling point for me was the speed square slot lol, got tired of tucking it in the small of my back and belt. They still seem fairly new and holding up well, they do have some scrapes and scratches and have softened up a little, more comfy. I understand about the tool storage. Lately I have been going through tools and upgrading. I just bought the Kapek and luv it. My tool sit in a 6x12 trailer in buckets, original cases and loose on the shelving. The past week I have been ditching cases, bags and buckets  . After the purchase of the Kapek I ordered 5 systainers and the 4 wheeled dolly and set them up this past weekend. It went so well, freeing up alot of space and organizing that I am ordering 5-6 more next week along with the ct26 and ts75. Yeah it's a lot of money but the space I freed up and organization is worth it to me. Not to mention when a client sees your clean organized trailer or you are rolling in some nice cases in there high end home, dust free and professional looking, yeah. Oh, tired of buckets rolling over and spilling out tools also. Luv the vids Kreg! |
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Tim Raleigh
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« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2011, 09:52 AM » |
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I have a tool belt set that was around $400.
Hey JLB; Do you mean the Occidental tool belt? or another brand? Tim |
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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2011, 08:09 PM » |
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Yes the Occidental tool belt. Sorry I thought I mentioned it.
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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2011, 09:39 PM » |
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Was looking at some occidental leather belts. Currently wearing a cheap husky belt that I've had for quite a few years. When I'm doing strictly shop stuff there's no need really for the belt but in the studios and the odd reno i do I need the dang thing. Problem is I find myself taking it off more than having it on me. my hips are killing me! definitely getting some braces for the cheap bugger but while it's got some capacity the pockets aren't the best for organization, in fact they suck. So this is going off topic from the Doctor bag, which is beautiful, but what kind of belt configurations do you guys like? Is Occi the way to go or is there a better alternative? Will anything store a combo square without it doing surgery on me? Will i become the Batman of the carp shop? Or will I need a spine transplant?
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« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2011, 09:43 PM » |
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Was looking at some occidental leather belts. Currently wearing a cheap husky belt that I've had for quite a few years. When I'm doing strictly shop stuff there's no need really for the belt but in the studios and the odd reno i do I need the dang thing. Problem is I find myself taking it off more than having it on me. my hips are killing me! definitely getting some braces for the cheap bugger but while it's got some capacity the pockets aren't the best for organization, in fact they suck. So this is going off topic from the Doctor bag, which is beautiful, but what kind of belt configurations do you guys like? Is Occi the way to go or is there a better alternative? Will anything store a combo square without it doing surgery on me? Will i become the Batman of the carp shop? Or will I need a spine transplant?
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« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2011, 09:56 PM » |
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I have the oxylights with suspenders (only use in under 60° weather) and really like them, I bought them used and they are worn but no signs of wearing out.
good stuff, love the "lights" got sick of having a whole cow hanging off my hips.
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Tom- ps, I read these.
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« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2011, 04:10 PM » |
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NICE Trays and Boxes!!!
One thing is certain, it's NICE to be organized. Makes everything else easier and more fun.
Gary
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« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2011, 10:05 PM » |
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NICE Trays and Boxes!!!
One thing is certain, it's NICE to be organized. Makes everything else easier and more fun.
Gary
Gary, I am honoured by your compliment. I won a set of your DVDs in a contest here on the FOG last year and have learned a great deal from them. Thanks! |
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