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Offline Dane

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Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« on: December 18, 2017, 06:16 PM »
Surprised this hasn't come up around here....or did I miss it?

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 06:19 PM »
It has come up, but the roll out has been.... lengthy...

Sorry, the one on the FOG was from Cadex, not Rolair

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-sales-dealer-area/cadex-systainer-compressors-available-for-pre-order!-(us)/
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 08:22 PM »
Sweet! I'm in line.

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 08:48 PM »
Available from us for pre-order now.

https://www.toolnut.com/rolair-airstak-1hp-1-6-gallon-systainer-compressor.html

2.0 CFM @ 90 PSI
1 Horsepower
8 Amps (Running)
1.6 Gallon Capacity
70 dBA Ultra-Quiet Noise Level
28 Pounds
Systainer SYS4 T-LOC

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 08:56 PM »
Didn't see any sound deadening inside the systainer. Seems like that would be a good idea to help cut down on the vibration and noise.

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 09:06 PM »
Interesting - wonder how this stacks up to supposedly-around-the-corner Cadex products in terms of specs.  Definitely a little cheaper on first glance and from a reputable compressor company. 

I might have to get myself a leetle birthday present.   [tongue]
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 09:10 PM »
Interesting - wonder how this stacks up to supposedly-around-the-corner Cadex products in terms of specs.

Well, first of all, the Rolair exists and we have one.  [tongue]

Here are the specs for the smaller of the two units that Cadex had planned.

- 1.9 CFM at 90 PSI
- 0.5-gallon tank capacity
- Maximum 139 PSI
- Systainer SYS 3
- Weighs 29 lbs.

The larger Cadex unit had these specs:

- 3.8 CFM at 90 PSI
- 1.5-gallon tank capacity
- Maximum 139 PSI
- Systainer SYS 4
- Weight: 31.5lbs

Didn't see any sound deadening inside the systainer. Seems like that would be a good idea to help cut down on the vibration and noise.

I'm guessing that cannot be done for fire hazard reasons.
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 10:20 PM »
Rockwool could be used for sound insulation. Very high fire rating.
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 10:44 PM »
Not to   [dead horse] but...................

The Cadex exists too.  Cadex Jamie said he had one in his hot little hands a year, or was it two ago ?  It was available for pre-order too.   And is still vapor ware.  :-[

Shane - what are the chances of you actually receiving Rolair stock in Q1/2018 ?   Or is this just glass half full sales bravado from Rolair ?

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 10:55 PM »
Shane - what are the chances of you actually receiving Rolair stock in Q1/2018 ?   Or is this just glass half full sales bravado from Rolair ?

@antss, I know that you are sometimes the skeptic and there's nothing wrong with that, especially with what happened didn't happen with the Cadex Systainer Compressor. Stuff happens and I don't know what gremlins have prevented Cadex from making theirs happen yet. I have openly shared all of the updates I have received from them. Last I heard, we would see it in September 2017, it was supposed to originally launch in March 2017. Obviously, it's been delayed again for unknown reasons.

Rolair sent us a real life working production unit which is shown in the video I posted. So, it's legit and presumably in the process of being produced in quantity in preparation for its launch. I can only share the information provided by each manufacturer. To my knowledge, Rolair has not overpromised on any of its other product introductions to date.

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 11:27 PM »
Love the shipping date, April 1st.  Hmmm fools day hope not [scared]

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 12:29 AM »
So airflow specs comparable to the smaller Cadex (which was $499 I think?) and capacity and size of the larger Cadex (599?). 

Shane, is the pre-order price lower than what these will be priced at once there is a steady supply?  I’d prefer to wait until April and until these are actually shipping...
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 03:00 AM »
The Rolair is a rebadged Schneider compressor. Schneider is a division of the same company Festool belongs to.

https://www.schneider-airsystems.com/Products/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=A911000&name=SysMaster-SYM-150-8-6-WXOF

Apparently there has even been a limited edition Festool version.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-and-tanos-systainers/another-compressor-in-a-systainer/
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 03:21 AM »
Alex,  just an FYI.  Schneider is no longer part of TTS.

That might help explain similar products coming to market from other manufacturers now.

https://www.schneider-airsystems.com/About-us/Documents/160802_en_Closing-of-acquisition_AtlasCopco-SchneiderDruckluft.pdf

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 04:40 AM »
weird how the rolair supposedly has db rating of 70db while the schneider has 89db rating. What's changed/different?
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 05:42 AM »
Alex,  just an FYI.  Schneider is no longer part of TTS.

That might help explain similar products coming to market from other manufacturers now.

https://www.schneider-airsystems.com/About-us/Documents/160802_en_Closing-of-acquisition_AtlasCopco-SchneiderDruckluft.pdf

Peter

I see, I didn't know that yet.

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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 08:52 AM »
Shane, is the pre-order price lower than what these will be priced at once there is a steady supply?  I’d prefer to wait until April and until these are actually shipping...

@live4ever, this is not an introductory price.

The Cadex units were $499 and $639.
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 10:02 AM »
Great concept!  I'm concerned that it has a rated 70 dBA noise spec while the Rolair JC10 Plus has a 60 dBA rating.  I have to wonder why a housed compressor is that much louder.  The JC10 Plus seem to have better specs, yet the Airstak weighs 28# vs. 45# for the JC10 Plus.  I'd really like to see a side-by-side comparison to see why (if) the Airstak is really worth twice the price of the JC10 Plus.  OK, it's great to see a compressor built into a Systainer, but REALLY???  Twice the price???   [eek]   egmiii's comment about rockwool as a sound deadener is on target.  Roxul is a great product and Rockboard at an appropriate thickness might be just the thing, assuming there's room enough to slide slabs of it into the Systainer. 
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 10:29 AM »
Great concept!  I'm concerned that it has a rated 70 dBA noise spec while the Rolair JC10 Plus has a 60 dBA rating.  I have to wonder why a housed compressor is that much louder.  The JC10 Plus seem to have better specs, yet the Airstak weighs 28# vs. 45# for the JC10 Plus.  I'd really like to see a side-by-side comparison to see why (if) the Airstak is really worth twice the price of the JC10 Plus.  OK, it's great to see a compressor built into a Systainer, but REALLY???  Twice the price???   [eek]   egmiii's comment about rockwool as a sound deadener is on target.  Roxul is a great product and Rockboard at an appropriate thickness might be just the thing, assuming there's room enough to slide slabs of it into the Systainer.

+1 on everything you said.  Is the older JC10 also rated at 60db, or was it rated a tad louder?  10db over that is significantly louder.  Either way if a little end-user installed rockwool could dampen this thing down to ~65ish, that would be a pretty significant improvement.
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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 10:55 AM »
Great concept!  I'm concerned that it has a rated 70 dBA noise spec while the Rolair JC10 Plus has a 60 dBA rating.  I have to wonder why a housed compressor is that much louder.  The JC10 Plus seem to have better specs, yet the Airstak weighs 28# vs. 45# for the JC10 Plus.  I'd really like to see a side-by-side comparison to see why (if) the Airstak is really worth twice the price of the JC10 Plus.  OK, it's great to see a compressor built into a Systainer, but REALLY???  Twice the price???   [eek]   egmiii's comment about rockwool as a sound deadener is on target.  Roxul is a great product and Rockboard at an appropriate thickness might be just the thing, assuming there's room enough to slide slabs of it into the Systainer.

Where's the Schneider Systainer assembled?   I think the cheapest US assembled Rolair is about $370 and quickly gets to the thousand dollar range from there.   

Roxul is awesome.   Does the rockboard shed like the AFB or rigid fiberglass?

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Re: Rolair Systainer Compressor **IN STOCK** (US)
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2018, 11:45 AM »
All, just an update that the Rolair compressors are now IN STOCK! If you preordered, your unit(s) will be shipping shortly. You'll get an email with tracking info.


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Re: Systainer Compressor from Rolair?
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2018, 09:44 AM »
Here's a review for anyone considering picking this unit up.

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