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« on: January 16, 2010, 08:28 PM »

I found this on ebay on a buy it now.  I phoned the guy up & he said he had plenty & would be ordering more.  He also said he could get other systainers also & if all ordered at the same time there would only be 1 delivery charge.  I thought 29.99GBP for a tanos systainer2 with insert for the multimaster was a good deal & will be ordering 1 soon, along with a couple of other systainers for other tools.
I did ask him if he could get different coloured catches for tool recognition etc but he had never heard of that.  He did say he would look into it & he was pretty confident he could get them.  The guy seems really helpfull & anyone looking for systainers should give him a call.  I think his name was Barry, but that could be totally wrong  Huh?!

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 09:04 PM »

Already have mine in a sys1 with foam inserts, as in this previous post.

If you do get one though, could you check something for me? It says on the Tanos site that it fits a sys2, but I'm sure I read somewhere that it will actually fit in a sys1 (if a bit tight). Since mine fits in a sys1, I can't see why it wouldn't as there's no need for the extra height. Do you have a sys1 you could try the insert in?
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 09:39 PM »

If anyone in the US is interested in this you can find it here
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 09:53 PM »

I believe my c12 is in a sys1.  Will try it & get back to you as soon as i get it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 08:20 AM »

If anyone in the US is interested in this you can find it here


Right.  We can get it, but for 86 instead of 48.   Crying
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 08:21 AM »

I did hear a guy at a trade show moaning about these the other day he had a Supercut and had bought the systainer insert from Bunnys bolts and never got on with it and gone back to using the original case but I dont know why he didnt get on with it.

?38 inc delivery thats not bad. I have the full FMM 250Q kit with all the accesories plus a few extra blades will all that fit in that insert ?
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 08:42 AM »

I'm not sure but once i get it i will have a better idea.  The price is good, but if you were to buy extra systainers then the cost is a good bit cheaper due to only 1 carrage charge.
Another idea for extra blades etc would be the holder thingy (sorry, don't know what it is called) that attaches to the inside of the lid.

I should be ordering some time next week (if anybody decides to pay me that is  Crying ) so will know better on what room etc is in it then.

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 09:00 AM »

I did hear a guy at a trade show moaning about these the other day he had a Supercut and had bought the systainer insert from Bunnys bolts and never got on with it and gone back to using the original case but I dont know why he didnt get on with it.

If he was trying to fit a Supercut into an insert designed for a Multimaster, then maybe that's the reason he was unhappy?

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 10:28 AM »

I have my multimaster in a sys 2.  No inserts.  All the old blades and sandpaper keep it from flopping around.  Doh!   All those dead blades represent a large amount of expense.  Maybe one day someone will discover a way to easily grind new teeth into them.

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 10:46 AM »

I did hear a guy at a trade show moaning about these the other day he had a Supercut and had bought the systainer insert from Bunnys bolts and never got on with it and gone back to using the original case but I dont know why he didnt get on with it.

If he was trying to fit a Supercut into an insert designed for a Multimaster, then maybe that's the reason he was unhappy?

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Is the Supercut bigger than the Multimaster then I dont know it looks the same to me on the net.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 10:54 AM »

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I came across this at a large woodworking fair last November.  It's a Belgian company, but at the time where still in development and couldn't give me a price quote.
They had a demo unit and it worked quiet nice.  You really cut new teeth and are not regrinding, this means that all your blades will be the same.  Not usable for your metal cutting saws.

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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 10:56 AM »

The body of the supercut is longer than that of the multimaster.

Tanos doesn't make an insert for the supercut. I have 2 supercuts that I still keep in the case they came in, I like the new plastic case more than the old metal one. (My supercut had to go for repair when it was just out of it's 3 year warranty, I bought the new version with quickrelease because it took a few weeks to get back)

@Mettes: very interesting, too bad I threw away A LOT of worn blades already, I'll start  keeping them from now on. (Allthough the blades I use most are the longer type, that are only wide at the bottom).

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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 11:07 AM »

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Sawcut Press



I came across this at a large woodworking fair last November.  It's a Belgian company, but at the time where still in development and couldn't give me a price quote.
They had a demo unit and it worked quiet nice.  You really cut new teeth and are not regrinding, this means that all your blades will be the same.  Not usable for your metal cutting saws.




That is neat.  Too bad I can't read the website.  It would be neat if they had a similar tool to do the segmented semi round blades.

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 02:52 PM »

with very rusty Dutch & liberal use of Babelfish

it's for wood blades only
(I think) it's for blades upto 24mm
you tighten witha spanner and can hear an audible click
you need it keep it oiled (oil supplied) and their technician's can re align it for you - although p&p from the uk to Belgium would be enough to make me wonder how pricy this would be...

couldn't find any details of price or distributors
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010, 05:34 PM »

The 24 mm refers to the size of the closed end wrench that's supplied with the press. (from the looks of it they use the device to cut the wider type blade).

Brief translation:
You have to secure the press firmly in a benchvise or screw it down to a bench before using it.
First you use the supplied wrench to adjust the opening, so the blade just fits in between the cutters, then slide the blade in against a stop, apply cutting-oil, press down on the blade with your left thumb and turn the wrench further till the blade is cut (requires a fair amount of force).

After the blade is cut, the teeth need to be set, this is shown in the last picture. (put it in the groove meant for this purpose and bend the blade forward untill it touches the rearend of the bottom cutter.)

For those that can read French, in the top right corner of the website there's a box that says "Nederlands", you can toggle the language to French there.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 11:56 AM »

Re. the Multimaster insert; I bought one of these (from Bunny's Bolts oddly enough!) and was amazed when it wouldn't fit in a Sys1 - I thought I must have been fitting it in wrongly or something! Turns out the insert has broad 'X' shaped ridges moulded into the underside and these make it just too tall to fit in a Sys1. Fits in a Sys2 OK, but just looked lost rattling around in there so I gave up on it and made my own insert for a Sys1.

Cheers, Pete.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 04:03 PM »

Pete, what did you make your insert from & do you have any pics of it.  Johnny round boy has a nice set up for his but i have the complete set with all the sanding attachments etc & thought the insert would take care of them all.  Is it the full set you have ?

Cheers, Woodguy.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 06:29 PM »

Not to drive things off topic, but I found the plastic inserts for MM, Drill, Grinder etc. Were all a little chin-cy and caused things to rattle around during transportation.  I have much better luck with the egg-carton foam tops and the diced foam inserts.

Plus, the foam give you a little more flexibility when trying to jam in a long power cord.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 06:30 PM »

Hey Woodguy. Yes, it's the Multimaster Top, though I don't carry all the bits and pieces with me. It's just made from an MDF base with a couple of partitions glued in place. I don't have any snaps to hand - I'll bang a couple off tomorrow and post them here.

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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 07:18 PM »

Sounds cool Pete, thanks  Smile

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 09:43 AM »

OK, the insert I made for my Multimaster starts out just as a 6mm MDF base, shaped to fit a Systainer, and with 12mm MDF partitions glued in:-


These take the Festool coloured boxes that house the blades and accessories...


And the whole thing just drops into a Sys 1 with the Multimaster...


There isn't that much space for the MM to rattle around in there, but if you were worried about it it's easy enough to add some padding for protection.

Edit: OK I give up trying to get the images inline with the text - life's too short and you get the idea, right?


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* M_Master.jpg (53.52 KB, 640x480 - viewed 183 times.)
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 10:37 AM »

Looks good and, given your pictures, I could easily make one just like it.

There is a slight problem in that I don't own a Multimaster  Blink  -but one is on my wish list.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2010, 12:39 PM »

Very cool Peterm   Big Grin


OK, the insert I made for my Multimaster starts out just as a 6mm MDF base, shaped to fit a Systainer, and with 12mm MDF partitions glued in:-


These take the Festool coloured boxes that house the blades and accessories...


And the whole thing just drops into a Sys 1 with the Multimaster...


There isn't that much space for the MM to rattle around in there, but if you were worried about it it's easy enough to add some padding for protection.

Edit: OK I give up trying to get the images inline with the text - life's too short and you get the idea, right?
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2010, 02:27 PM »

Yea, nice one.  I don't think it would rattle around that much as it stays horizontal, not like the original box which gets turned vertical.

Thanks for the pics, Woodguy
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2010, 06:52 PM »

Pete, insert looks top-notch; my only concern is the added weight from the MDF.  I don't work with it often but I remember building custom TV frames out of it and I nearly killed myself lifting a sheet onto my tablesaw.
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2010, 07:25 PM »

MDF is the worst material for mobile applications. It's heavier and denser than 98% of all woods. Better to make inserts out of a light plywood. I wish I thought of that before I made my TS out of 40mm thick MDF. The top alone weighs over 40 kilo's and I have to haul it down two stairs when I want to work. Crying
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2010, 07:59 PM »

i think i might do the same thing with mine, i bought 3 empty Metabox cases awhile back and have not used them yet so heres a good use for one of them.
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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2010, 03:04 AM »

Thanks for the comments. I work with MDF more than anything else - the insert was made from scraps, and I have a lot of MDF scraps Wink

18mm MDF weighs ~ 15Kg/sq.m, so a full sheet weighs roughly 45Kg - oiking an 8x4 around on your own takes a bit of practice, as much due to the bulk as the weight. On something this size though, and in mostly 6mm, any increase in weight over say, ply, is insignificant, certainly in this application.

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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2010, 05:39 AM »

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I came across this at a large woodworking fair last November.  It's a Belgian company, but at the time where still in development and couldn't give me a price quote.
They had a demo unit and it worked quiet nice.  You really cut new teeth and are not regrinding, this means that all your blades will be the same.  Not usable for your metal cutting saws.




I came across the link in my favourites, and I finally called them yesterday to inquire about the price of that sawcut press.
The price is 509 Euro without tax, which doesn't make it interesting to me.
I mainly use the long sawblades with 70 mm cutting depth, those blades have deeper teeth, because they are used at a lower speed setting; and the bimetal ones, which cannot be recut.
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« Reply #29 on: May 4, 2010, 10:48 AM »

I just got finished putting my Multimaster & blades in systainers.
I have had a Multimaster for years & never liked the case. Accessories were just stacked in the case & the part I would need was always on the bottom.
I recently upgraded to a FMM 250 Q. The case for the new Multimaster was larger but there was still not a way to organize the blades so they were easy to find. 
I ordered the Systainer 1, Systainer II & inserts from Systainer World. I really like this setup.





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