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« on: April 11, 2012, 10:41 AM » |
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 I like tools and admire many in the Woodpecker line, but this one? http://www.woodpeck.com/ottpythagoras.htmlIt qualifies for my Fool_Tool of the year award. Yes, it might indicate that three points are on lines that intersect at a right angle, but what about the imperfect wood surfaces along the way? I like a square and I have a few. Ok, maybe the really big one. What say you?
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 11:11 AM » |
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I enjoy WoodPecker products, especially the 1281 square. Someday, I might get a larger square. The Paolini Pocket rule is quickly becoming a favorite. However, I agree with you that this new product is a bit redundant. I enjoy cooking, but as with tools am moving toward fewer high quality instead of many gadgets. This appears a gadget to me. Maybe some of the pros will see high value???
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andvari
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 12:08 PM » |
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If they had offered a 40" square I would have placed an order. This however - meh.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 02:19 PM » |
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I haven't purchased any WoodPecker tools yet, and I can guarantee that this one will not be the first, if I ever do buy any. My understanding is that wood moves with changes in humidity. The type of precision provided by WoodPecker products appears to be overkill for most woodworking applications.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 04:28 PM » |
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i saw that vid a few days ago and thought its only a stunt or promo item. why would you want one. there squares are just as acurate and can be used for other jobs . that can only be used on internal large pieces.
if it was for odd angles then maybe. total waste of time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 04:57 PM » |
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What I didn't understand from the marketing email is this: ... and smaller projects where a typical square doesn't fit Uhm, the smallest of these things is 7". I have plenty of squares and triangles that would fit smaller projects the 7" would eclipse. And the point Alan made that it is just for internal measuring. I have a number of their products, but lost interest in them once the "router bit vise" was released and the marketing email claimed that small scratches on the bit's shaft would affect the balance of the bit and cause chatter. Sure, if you did the integral in cylindrical coordinates up the shaft to compute the center of gravity, mathematically there'd be a difference due to a surface scratch. But I'm thinking a hunk of pitch on the bit is many orders of magnitude larger than that. Handy to change the bit bearing, yes, but so is the OF-1400 sitting on its top using its collet as a bit vice. If I had a squeaky Anaconda, that email could have oiled it. |
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 08:05 PM » |
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I like tools and admire many in the Woodpecker line, but this one? http://www.woodpeck.com/ottpythagoras.htmlIt qualifies for my Fool_Tool of the year award. Yes, it might indicate that three points are on lines that intersect at a right angle, but what about the imperfect wood surfaces along the way? I like a square and I have a few. Ok, maybe the really big one. What say you? Methinks they were ten days late (or so) in announcing this...  |
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 08:33 PM » |
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I have many of their tools, including many of the one time tools, but have not made up my mind about these tools. Lately I've even begun using my Woodpeckers tools more than my Bridge City tools. They seem that they were accurately square a box, but I'm not sure they would any better than just using a square.
Tom
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 09:41 PM » |
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Woodpecker ?? or Dodo ...
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 11:31 AM » |
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Department of Redundancy Department, Kind of like, "Procrastinators unite........... tomorrow" |
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 12:27 PM » |
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I prefer to check across the diagonals to check for square. The accuracy is much better than "spot" checking a section with a square or other method. I've used the Veritas bar gauges for years which also allow for other checks besides squareness. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32585&cat=1,43513,43553&ap=1When Woodpecker's brought out their version of the bar gauge I also purchased a set for longer spans which is handy. http://www.woodpeck.com/ottbargauge.htmlI guess the new Woodpecker tool could have a purpose but I don't have a need for it. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2012, 01:45 PM » |
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"Procrastinators unite........... tomorrow"
Thanks for the laugh.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2012, 02:25 PM » |
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I like tools and admire many in the Woodpecker line, but this one? http://www.woodpeck.com/ottpythagoras.htmlIt qualifies for my Fool_Tool of the year award. Yes, it might indicate that three points are on lines that intersect at a right angle, but what about the imperfect wood surfaces along the way? I like a square and I have a few. Ok, maybe the really big one. What say you? I've got allot of Woodpecker's tools, but I'm not buying that one. Some of the nicest tools that they've offered are the 12", 6.25" and 4.5" Precision Triangles and the Giant Square. |
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