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Offline Frank Pellow

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Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« on: May 10, 2008, 02:20 PM »
Check out information about this machine at: http://www.tritonwoodworking.com/ddowlingmachine.htm

It will be available on Sept 8 and I am looking forward to seeing a comaprison of it and the Domino.  Also, what will people who currently use the DowelMax (such as me) think of it?
Cheers,   
               Frank (Festool connoisseur)

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ericbuggeln

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 05:36 PM »
Frank, I have the 3 1/4 HP router in a table and two multi-stands from Triton and have been very impressed with both.  Nicely engineered and the multi-stands really fill a void in the market.  I will bet it is going to be a nice machine, but I doubt many on this sight would pass up the Domino unless the cost difference was substantial.  I just finished gluing up a door which is the first thing I built with the Domino that I got a month ago.  Although I knew it was going to be awesome, it gave me a "whoa" moment.

Offline Peter Teubel

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 06:11 PM »
Looks like a Hoffman PDS-32 Portable Doweling System...but at a fraction of the cost.

FYI: I think Triton made an "opps" in the spec document...by listing the dealer cost ($117.38) along with SRP $179.95. Don't know what currency, though.

http://www.tritonwoodworking.com/specsheets/TC850DWL.pdf

Offline Frank Pellow

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 07:03 PM »
Frank, I have the 3 1/4 HP router in a table and two multi-stands from Triton and have been very impressed with both.  Nicely engineered and the multi-stands really fill a void in the market.  I will bet it is going to be a nice machine, but I doubt many on this sight would pass up the Domino unless the cost difference was substantial.  I just finished gluing up a door which is the first thing I built with the Domino that I got a month ago.  Although I knew it was going to be awesome, it gave me a "whoa" moment.
I have the Triton 2.25 hp router in a table and I have been happy with it.  I see no need for any additional power.
Cheers,   
               Frank (Festool connoisseur)

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 07:55 PM »
Looks like a Hoffman PDS-32 Portable Doweling System...but at a fraction of the cost.

FYI: I think Triton made an "opps" in the spec document...by listing the dealer cost ($117.38) along with SRP $179.95. Don't know what currency, though.

http://www.tritonwoodworking.com/specsheets/TC850DWL.pdf

I don't think this really competes with the Domino even though both be used to aid joining long boards. The Domino can be used for joining small things securely which a single dowel won't do (when the two dowels are too far apart).

But, if this dowel thing is that cheap I'll buy one for sure.

Offline patrick anderson

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 02:05 PM »
Triton have made some very innovative products over the years. Unfortunately they got taken over by the people who make GMC tools and since then they haven't quite been the same.

It's unfortunate that here in the US we get only a few of their products that the rest of the world all get.
patrick anderson
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Offline jakiiski

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 02:12 PM »
It's unfortunate that here in the US we get only a few of their products that the rest of the world all get.
Well, at least you get something. Here in Finland we get absolutely NOTHING. I guess the get the full range only in Australia.
- J

Offline mike

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 10:41 PM »
Frank, I just received the Dowelmax DVD on Friday. It looks like a good alternative to the Domino for a hobbist like me. I like the fact that I can get two more Festool sanders I want with the savings. As for the Triton doweling machine, I have to wonder what we get for a $170. (I looked at the exchange rate at http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html ) Of course there will be some $ added by the time it reaches the States.
More to ponder!

Mike

Offline Loren Woirhaye

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 05:13 PM »
I think the Hoffman machine has adjustable distance between the spindles.

This Triton one seems to be on 1 1/4" centers... which would do nicely
for most cabinetwork.   

I know domino owners like to join face frames to carcases with dominos. 
I don't own one so I cannot say for sure - but I've found there is money
to be made by putting things together with pocket screws whenever
possible - most customers aren't sincerely interested enough in "pure"
craftsmanship to pay for it.

Offline MichaelM

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2008, 05:52 PM »
The Hoffman machine (really the Mafell DD) is set at 32mm centers.

It can drill dowel holes as well as shelf pin holes which makes it unique and extremely usefull for small run cabinet shops.

Hoffman no longer sells their re-badged version in North America deciding instead to focus on their unique product offerings. The Mafell units are still available. This Triton appears to be a clone of the GMC unit that existed at one time and does appear to have the notches in the fence to work with either the Mafell rails or maybe a set that Triton will provide. If it is the GMC re-invented then it is a far car from the qaulity of the Mafell units (which are intended from professional daily use.) However for DIY use it would probably fit the bill.

The one thing I wish either Mafell or clones would do is re-design the fence such that it could drill the holes at the center of 3/4 stock whilst the base of the machine were on the same plane as the workpiece...

I have sent such a request to Mafell. If this were the case I'd snap one up in an instant even at a cool grand.

Offline Tinker

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 11:47 AM »
Frank, I just received the Dowelmax DVD on Friday. It looks like a good alternative to the Domino for a hobbist like me. I like the fact that I can get two more Festool sanders I want with the savings. As for the Triton doweling machine, I have to wonder what we get for a $170. (I looked at the exchange rate at http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html ) Of course there will be some $ added by the time it reaches the States.
More to ponder!

Mike

Mike, I have the Dowel-it that closely resembles, in appearance, the Dowel-max.  I found it in with a bunch of other stuff from my father and only just started trying it out.  i have had so many bad experiences with other doweljigs that i never thought ot give it a try.  When i started looking at the Domino and thinking about the pricing and how often i might use it, i finally decided to give the Dowel-it a try.  It is the first dowel jig i have had any luck with.  As I look back, i think proceedur might have been as much at fault as tool, but for the time being, i think i can get by with the degree of accuracy afforded.

I have looked at the Dowelmax DVD (On line, I think) and noticed the one advantage Dowelmax has over Dowel-it is the ability to set dowels at angles other than 90?.  That ability puts it much closer to the Domino in usefulness.  Sometime between now and fall, i will have to make a decision between Domino and Dowelmax for a couple of projects I have in mind. 
Tinker
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Offline mike

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Re: Triton Double Dowelling Machine
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2008, 07:22 PM »

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I have looked at the Dowelmax DVD (On line, I think) and noticed the one advantage Dowelmax has over Dowel-it is the ability to set dowels at angles other than 90?.  That ability puts it much closer to the Domino in usefulness.  Sometime between now and fall, i will have to make a decision between Domino and Dowelmax for a couple of projects I have in mind. 
Tinker
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I watched the Domino CD again and try to compare features with this upcoming Triton and the Dowelmax. If I were making a living in my shop, I would get the Domino. But I am a hobbyist and the Dowelmax looks like it winning the race. Buying dowels are cheaper and readily available. There does not look like anything to wear out on the Dowelmax and no more accessories to buy since I would buy the 1/4 inch kit as well.  And Frank really seems to like his. :)

Mike