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Offline JCLP

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Coping Sled recommendations
« on: April 02, 2017, 12:26 PM »
I'm looking for a coping sled for doing rail and stile cabinet doors on the routr table. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks,
JC

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 12:30 PM »
If you can get it in Canada I'm a big fan of the woodpecker sled.

http://www.woodpeck.com/copingsled.html

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Offline egmiii

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2017, 12:48 PM »
I looked at the Woodpecker set, but decided on the Infinity Tools pro sled. I'm a huge fan of Woodpecker, and have thousands of dollars invested into the brand, but this isn't one of their better offerings.

Offline Phred

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2017, 02:36 PM »
+1
I looked at the Woodpecker set, but decided on the Infinity Tools pro sled.  This isn't one of [Woodpecker's] better offerings.

Offline antss

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2017, 03:16 PM »
If you're making a whole kitchen's or house's worth of cabinet doors then the Weaver sled is your ticket.

It's not a pimped out with anodized do dads, or 12 way adjustable what nots and costs 2-3x as much - so it's not sexy.  And it's really big.

But if you're into efficient production, then it cannot be beat for running a stack of material.

http://www.weaver-sales.com/manual-tenon-jig.htm

Offline bkharman

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2017, 03:26 PM »
+1
I looked at the Woodpecker set, but decided on the Infinity Tools pro sled.  This isn't one of [Woodpecker's] better offerings.

Another Infinity guy here...  the thing is great! 

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Offline RobBob

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2017, 03:38 PM »
Here's another option:
Woodhaven 528 Small Coping Sled
« Last Edit: April 02, 2017, 03:43 PM by RobBob »

Offline Steve Rowe

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2017, 03:44 PM »
My favorite is the Aigner Contermax.  I have used this jig for over 12 years and have had zero regrets and zero desire to even look at or try anything else.
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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2017, 05:17 PM »
I am currently using the Woodpecker's. That Weaver looks interesting for speed.  Says use with shaper on the website. Any reason it won't work with a router tabel?

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Offline clark_fork

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2017, 06:56 PM »
All the coping sleds are built to handle the ends. None that I know of are designed to allow safe long grain coping. This is the sled I built to allow the safe routing of trim pieces and coping the sides.

I followed the original design found in the FW article but this can be easily modified with tracks.

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2017, 09:28 PM »
I make my own push sticks by screwing a plastic handle to 3/4" plywood.  Made hundreds of copes with this as well as the pattern runs on the rails and stiles.  I bought a bunch of cheap plastic push blocks and it works great for me.  Bill

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
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Offline JCLP

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2017, 11:49 AM »
Thank you all for your recommendations. I like the Infinity model but they are not available in Canada. I could order from the US but by the time I pay for shipping, duties, taxes and the dollar conversion it ends up being quite expensive.
So I'm going to go with the Woodpecker version as it is available here.

One day I will make my own as I like the homemade one by clark_fork.

Thanks again to everyone.
JC

Offline Getmaverick

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2017, 03:49 PM »
I have the Woodpeckers. I think I will try to install some toggles like the infinity for quicker action.
Is that sandpaper adhered to the bottom of the Infinity? Not sure I would like that, sliding my boards in and out.
Seems it could scratch up the facings causing even more sanding.

Offline clark_fork

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2017, 04:28 PM »
Thank you all for your recommendations. I like the Infinity model but they are not available in Canada. I could order from the US but by the time I pay for shipping, duties, taxes and the dollar conversion it ends up being quite expensive.
So I'm going to go with the Woodpecker version as it is available here.

One day I will make my own as I like the homemade one by clark_fork.

Thanks again to everyone.
JC

Here is the design for the end coping sled.  I built both. The plans are found in FW 157 (August 2002)

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2017, 01:18 PM »
Woodpeckers one here. Nice tool.
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Offline cpw

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 05:53 PM »
I've got the wood pecker's sled, but the screw clamps are a bit of a pain.  Toggles would be much better.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 06:17 PM »
I've got the wood pecker's sled, but the screw clamps are a bit of a pain.  Toggles would be much better.
Good point. Wonder if that whole black bar could be replaced with some Bessey toggle clamps.
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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2017, 07:33 PM »
My favorite is the Aigner Contermax.  I have used this jig for over 12 years and have had zero regrets and zero desire to even look at or try anything else.
Steve

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Are those Martin prices accurate?

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2017, 08:01 PM »
My favorite is the Aigner Contermax.  I have used this jig for over 12 years and have had zero regrets and zero desire to even look at or try anything else.
Steve

Steve: That looks pretty good. Simple, like me.
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Offline Steve Rowe

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 08:16 PM »
I think so.  From what I recall, it was $149 when I purchased mine a long..... time ago.  Felder also sells the Contermax.
Steve

My favorite is the Aigner Contermax.  I have used this jig for over 12 years and have had zero regrets and zero desire to even look at or try anything else.
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Are those Martin prices accurate?

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2017, 08:18 PM »
One day I will make my own as I like the homemade one by clark_fork.

JC, make one. A foot of 80/20 bar, a square foot of some 1/2" black UHMW (tolerance -0.070" to +0.070") and some Bessey auto adjust clamps should to it.
Tim

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2017, 08:20 PM »
Yes - I like simple too and there isn't a bunch of fiddley knobs and setup to deal with.  Setup with the shaper cutter or router table is referenced from the table.  Only limitation is that your stock needs to be thicker than about 5/8" if I recall correctly.
Steve

My favorite is the Aigner Contermax.  I have used this jig for over 12 years and have had zero regrets and zero desire to even look at or try anything else.
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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2017, 08:12 AM »
I use the Woodpeckers and like it (base is thin but stable; don't mind the screw down clamps), but it is has been my first and only coping sled, so I can't say how it compares to others.  One thing to double check on coping sleds is the height of the plastic guide that travels along the router fence.  You just have to make sure that it doesn't line up with the T-slot (if you have one) in your fence.  You should be able modify the sled should this happen to raise the guide, but that would be an extra step obviously.
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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2017, 10:14 AM »
I use the Woodpeckers and like it (base is thin but stable; don't mind the screw down clamps), but it is has been my first and only coping sled, so I can't say how it compares to others.  One thing to double check on coping sleds is the height of the plastic guide that travels along the router fence.  You just have to make sure that it doesn't line up with the T-slot (if you have one) in your fence.  You should be able modify the sled should this happen to raise the guide, but that would be an extra step obviously.

Ditto.

I added a toggle to hold an anti-tear out piece with a separate clamp. Makes the swapping of work pieces faster since the anti-tear out piece stays put. Same dual T-track could also be a place to mount toggles to hold the work piece.

     


     


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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2017, 10:43 AM »
I like that toggle clamp modification.  Nice job!
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Offline lunchman

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2017, 07:45 PM »
I have a Woodpecker's mini coping sled (pretty sure it was a OTT), which works fine for me since I have a portable Bosch router table.

One item of note I stumbled upon a while back when doing a Google search for a OTT. There's an authorized dealer site here in Mass. (www.shopwoodpeckers.com) that sometimes has lower prices than the Woodpeckers site and offers free shipping with purchases over a certain $ amount. I've never used them, if I did they'd charge Mass sales tax.

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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2017, 11:44 AM »
I have a Woodpecker's mini coping sled (pretty sure it was a OTT), which works fine for me since I have a portable Bosch router table.
If I remember correctly the Mini Coping Sled wasnt an OTT, it was a regularly produced item that is now discontinued.
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Re: Coping Sled recommendations
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2017, 12:11 AM »
I wanted an infinity but they were on back order when I needed one. Got the Woodhaven and it worked well

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