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« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2012, 08:08 PM » |
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Come on guys, I had myself talked out of buying the 26" square because of the cost and now I'm thinking of buying both of the sizes! And I don't think I have the 1281 either. And all the new Festool tools will be out soon. Let's see, what to sell, what to sell??  Tom
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« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2012, 08:21 PM » |
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Hi Richard, I just checked the Woodpecker site and the case for the smaller 18" square is sold separately for $29.99. Does anyone else selling it includes the case?
I meant the 1281 square comes with a case. Sorry.
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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2012, 08:44 PM » |
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Come on guys, I had myself talked out of buying the 26" square because of the cost and now I'm thinking of buying both of the sizes! And I don't think I have the 1281 either. And all the new Festool tools will be out soon. Let's see, what to sell, what to sell??  Tom Tom, The only thing you sell is furniture or cabinets, not tools  Jack
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Im a little late on this, but are you guys who are clamping the squares, i have the 18 carpenters triangle, finding it increasing your accuracy? The stuff im building, i have just been placing it against the rail, clamping and then doing the same on the other side, spot checking the first side, then cut away. Am i missing something? Thanks Eric
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« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2012, 12:30 AM » |
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Hi Richard, I just checked the Woodpecker site and the case for the smaller 18" square is sold separately for $29.99. Does anyone else selling it includes the case?
It is a Woodpeckers One Time Tool and only sold directly through them. In fact most of their items are sold directly I have only seen a few offered elsewhere. As to the pencil holes in the 26" Framing Square? I don't think they would work nearly as well in that. Would run into problems when flipping it over etc. Plus the short leg would run real far off the end of a piece when drawing a line through the holes making it awkward to draw to the end of a work piece. The holes work great in the items they are offererd in though. BTW a .9mm lead mechanical pencil fills the hole almost completely keeping the line fom wandering at all as opposed to .7mm or .5mm lead. The only One Time Tools that you can still order are the Framing Squares. Personally I have not found the MDF cases to be all that useful. They could be put in drawers to keep the tools from moving around, but take a lot of extra space. They could be wall hung, but I found that hanging the item on a peg board hook gave me a better (less likely to drop it) grip than getting it out of the case, and is quicker. Guess it just depends on how you set things up. Seth
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« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2012, 01:08 PM » |
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Old and new framing squares. The old one was my dads it is a Sears Craftsman and is about 65 years old. And belive it or not it is still square, 
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« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2012, 02:03 AM » |
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I received an e-mail from Woodpeckers regarding the pencil holes in the Framing squares (18"&26"): they are not going to offer them due to cost plus the same problems that Seth mentioned. I am ordering the large one in metric measure.
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« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2012, 06:27 PM » |
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Come on guys, I had myself talked out of buying the 26" square because of the cost and now I'm thinking of buying both of the sizes! And I don't think I have the 1281 either. And all the new Festool tools will be out soon. Let's see, what to sell, what to sell??  Tom Tom, The only thing you sell is furniture or cabinets, not tools  Jack Jack, Good advice, although I do have a few "other brand" tools that haven't seen any use in a while.  Tom
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« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2012, 06:32 PM » |
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Personally I have not found the MDF cases to be all that useful. They could be put in drawers to keep the tools from moving around, but take a lot of extra space. They could be wall hung, but I found that hanging the item on a peg board hook gave me a better (less likely to drop it) grip than getting it out of the case, and is quicker. Guess it just depends on how you set things up.
Seth
I agree with Seth the MDF cases are a nice idea but way too heavy and take up too much space to be used daily. In a shop I would pad a drawer with foam and fit several rules/squares into the same space that one Square in their 3 lbs of MDF takes up. If I had the wall space Hooks are the way to go. If they used a plastic instead of MDF it sure would make more sense to me, to save cost shipping these things. Working on location..... the MDF is a waste too heavy and too big to ever take to the site. Cheers, Steve
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« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2012, 08:08 PM » |
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Since it seems that everyone who commented on this thread would recommend the squares, I ordered one of the large squares today. I've yet to be disappointed with any of their tools and you guys have not given me any bad advice, but I'm still unsure if this thing is worth nearly $200.  Tom
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« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2012, 09:03 PM » |
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Since it seems that everyone who commented on this thread would recommend the squares, I ordered one of the large squares today. I've yet to be disappointed with any of their tools and you guys have not given me any bad advice, but I'm still unsure if this thing is worth nearly $200.  Tom Tom, Not knowing manufacturing costs, other than the price of aluminum has gone up, it seems worth it to me since I first got mine and used it since last year. Especially comparing it to prices for items from Festool. The only part that I'm unsure about is the MDF storage case. It does it's job protecting it, not sure whether it's worth the price or if there would be a better alternative for me like a large flat systainer called the FlaxiSys 1. 
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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2012, 09:03 PM » |
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I ordered mine on Friday! Didn't want to not take advantage of a second opportunity!
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« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2012, 01:24 PM » |
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Has anyone received their square yet. Just double checked Woodpeckers site and it says these are shipping in August... only two more days in the month and I haven't received any confirmation yet 
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« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2012, 04:24 PM » |
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Has anyone received their square yet. Just double checked Woodpeckers site and it says these are shipping in August... only two more days in the month and I haven't received any confirmation yet  I did receive mine last week. I would give a call to see. I did get an email notification when it shipped as well. Best of luck! Bob
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« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2012, 04:46 PM » |
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I just called (since I also had an order) - the imperials are still shipping, and the metrics are going to get engraved in early September.
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« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2012, 05:50 PM » |
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Since it seems that everyone who commented on this thread would recommend the squares, I ordered one of the large squares today. I've yet to be disappointed with any of their tools and you guys have not given me any bad advice, but I'm still unsure if this thing is worth nearly $200.  Tom Tom, Not knowing manufacturing costs, other than the price of aluminum has gone up, it seems worth it to me since I first got mine and used it since last year. Especially comparing it to prices for items from Festool. The only part that I'm unsure about is the MDF storage case. It does it's job protecting it, not sure whether it's worth the price or if there would be a better alternative for me like a large flat systainer called the FlaxiSys 1.  The 6061-T6 aluminum they use (we do also) is quite pricey. They no doubt "nest" their squares to minimize the amount of scrap but even so there is a fair amount of scrap ($$$). I bought the MDF case on the first go round but if I were doing it again I would probably make my own, creating spaces for several other fitted tools.
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« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2012, 08:22 AM » |
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I received mine about a week ago and am very happy with it. It should provide a lifetime of unerring precision which is exactly what I had hoped for.
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« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2012, 10:42 AM » |
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I just called (since I also had an order) - the imperials are still shipping, and the metrics are going to get engraved in early September.
I ordered the metric version, that explains the delay. Thanks
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« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2012, 09:27 PM » |
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Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
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« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2012, 09:44 PM » |
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Has anyone received their square yet. Just double checked Woodpeckers site and it says these are shipping in August... only two more days in the month and I haven't received any confirmation yet  I received mine a month ago. One thing that was disconcerting was they gave me the wrong tracking number - when I looked at the UPS info it had been delivered to somebody on the other side of the country. Fortunately it was a simple error...
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« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2012, 09:56 PM » |
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I picked mine up from the Post Office a couple weeks ago after calling Woodpecker. I remembered that they were supposed to ship out in August. By the first week of September I hadn't gotten it or an email so I called Woodpecker. They said they had shipped it in the middle of August. Went to the Post Office and asked if they had anything for me. After waiting at the counter a bit the woman came out with it. Turns out it had been laying in the back somewhere for a couple weeks. Very nice square. Only used it a few times so far to verify and square up some cuts on the MFT. Considering the weight you could always use it as a weapon in a pinch.
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« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2012, 10:01 PM » |
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Did anyone make their own case for it? I was thinking of making a really large one that would hold all (or at least most ) of my squares, T-squares, straight edges, etc.
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« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2012, 11:17 PM » |
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I received mine a few weeks ago. Overall, it's very nice...got quite a heft to it and well constructed. The only ding I have against it is that the numbers and markings aren't etched or stamped into the aluminum. It's more of a screen or printing so I see over time this may not last and for a tool designed for a lifetime of use that seems less than ideal.
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« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2012, 12:31 AM » |
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Got my metric one today. Agree with the hefty feel of it and I will also be interested in how long the numbers marking will hold up. I traditionally prefer the stamped markings but who knows it may be as good as the screw tops for wine bottles.
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« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2012, 08:30 AM » |
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Finally got mine! I was a bit disappointed the markings weren't etched as well. 
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« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2012, 01:11 PM » |
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I received mine a few weeks ago. Overall, it's very nice...got quite a heft to it and well constructed. The only ding I have against it is that the numbers and markings aren't etched or stamped into the aluminum. It's more of a screen or printing so I see over time this may not last and for a tool designed for a lifetime of use that seems less than ideal.
Infact the markings are engraved in the surface. The anodized surface is about as hard as a file (slightly less). When we hit it with the laser part of the anodize is burn't away and the rest is converted to aluminum oxide. To wear it out one would have to remove metal. Rich H.
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« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2012, 01:12 PM » |
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By the way. The cap screws will loosen and you won't notice and it will mess you up. It's a nightmare getting the plates "prefect" again. So tighten them periodically whether they need it or not.
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« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2012, 01:15 PM » |
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I wasn't aware that the screws would loosen. I'm thinking temperature changes might be causing it. Will look into a solution. Rich H
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« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2012, 02:33 PM » |
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Infact the markings are engraved in the surface. The anodized surface is about as hard as a file (slightly less). When we hit it with the laser part of the anodize is burn't away and the rest is converted to aluminum oxide. To wear it out one would have to remove metal. Rich H.
That's good to know, I'm glad to hear that! Any chance, the engraving can be made deeper, it's nice to have that tactile feel on at least the main markers points (like at every 10mmm or 1" in length)? Thanks for the tip fshanno....will keep that in mind.
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Rich Back at the Somerset show in NJ, I mentioned to one of the ladies at the booth my problem with the coping sled knobs coming loose, I told her I used some loctite on the handles and it was solved. Well i did the same thing with the hook screw again problem solved, just my 2 cents
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