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Title: New Flying camera.
Post by: rrmccabe on July 05, 2014, 06:00 PM
Disclaimer... I had no idea what I was doing first time out. LOL

DJI Phantom Vision 2 +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOA3QSZR9o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOA3QSZR9o&feature=youtu.be)
 
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: wolften on July 05, 2014, 11:43 PM
..nice part of the country you live in. Nice and green...my favourite colour. ;)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: SittingElf on July 06, 2014, 08:57 AM
Grrrr!!!

You just HAD to show this, didn't you! [mad]

Now I'm going to be forced to spend another $1500 that puts off my Kapex purchase for a month or two!  I HAVE to have THIS! [big grin]

Independence day deal until July 8th. (Extra battery and prop guards with free shipping)

Awesome UAV!  I have uses!

Cheers,

Frank
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: wow on July 06, 2014, 09:34 AM
Man, that thing is SMOOOOOTH!
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: rrmccabe on July 06, 2014, 09:37 AM
It is amazing.
 
If you get a chance check out FastCaps Youtube page.  My friend Paul is flying the same drone. Well not at the moment because he totaled his yesterday AM and has a new one on order.

I have never flown one before so this was the first time.
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Peter Halle on July 06, 2014, 10:01 AM
If you don't mind, some questions:

I went looking at the website and then some more google searches and it seems that drone has many packages and also a lot of aftermarket stuff that brings the packages into the multi thousand range - (4 to 10K)

What exact package did you get and where did you get it?
When you release the controls it does stop at a controlled hover, conrrect?
That model has what they say is "IOC".  Were you using that which allows you to have incredible stabilization and also controlled movements?

I ask this because I just picked a new replacement starter type drone that doesn't have any of these capabilities and I have stupid thumbs.  i.e. the word replacement.

I here that is a great model.  I am looking forward to what the Parrot Bebop will be like when it is released later this year.  Maybe it will have a get out of the tree mode.

Peter
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: wow on July 06, 2014, 10:12 AM
It is amazing.
 
If you get a chance check out FastCaps Youtube page.  My friend Paul is flying the same drone. Well not at the moment because he totaled his yesterday AM and has a new one on order.

I have never flown one before so this was the first time.

How did he manage to total it? That thought scares me - this thing is a lot of money!
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: rrmccabe on July 06, 2014, 10:31 AM
He flew it out of range. When it loses connectivity to the controller it raises to 60' and will fly back to you and land where you took off.   Unfortunately the trees around his house were in excess of 60'.

Peter,

Its a Vision 2+ and they sell for $1299.

Yes, I can lay the controller down and it will fly assuming it has GPS lock.  It will maintain elevation and fly based on onboard altimeter and flight computers even without GPS but will drift around with the wind.  Once it has 6 satellites it will stay in the same spot even if the wind blows it around.

I took off into the sun and as you can see I had to walk around to even find the drone. Elevation is my friend so I just pulled up on the stick to get about the trees and then took my time to get repositioned so I could see it. It was flying itself at that point.

Just to give you an idea of what is going on.  The controller has a clip to mount your smart phone. It also has a wifi extender on it. So you start wifi on your phone and look for the Phantom access point and connect.  When you do the drone starts streaming back to your phone so you can fly the thing out of site via the phone display  (FPV). From there you can also start to record and take single photos.  You don't need to run wifi but thats how it streams video back. The camera also has a micro SD card for the real HD footage.

The software has an option to use the gyro in your phone if you chose that allows you to tip the controller (phone attached) and it will rotate the gimbal on the camera. When you are in FPV mode it keeps the camera forward so you can fly it.

Fighting sun and first flight I really did not know what I was doing with the camera !

The new vision plus has a new camera with nice gimbal and shock mounts that keep the video smooth and removes the jello effect.

I am a newbie at this but if you have questions that I can answer I will be happy too.

Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Peter Halle on July 06, 2014, 10:37 AM
Thanks!  When I get a better model I will also be looking for the feature that automatically corrects the controller on the way back. LOL.

Peter
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Alex on July 06, 2014, 12:48 PM
How did he manage to total it? That thought scares me - this thing is a lot of money!

Acute case of gravity?  [wink]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: jmbfestool on July 06, 2014, 01:57 PM
Reminds me of hexo

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sqdr/hexo-your-autonomous-aerial-camera?ref=discovery (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sqdr/hexo-your-autonomous-aerial-camera?ref=discovery)

And airdog

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/airdog/airdog-worlds-first-auto-follow-action-sports-dron?ref=discovery (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/airdog/airdog-worlds-first-auto-follow-action-sports-dron?ref=discovery)


Awesome!!

Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: John_ on July 06, 2014, 04:37 PM
How did he manage to total it? That thought scares me - this thing is a lot of money!

About 25 years ago I got into RC helicopters which back then cost about  $2,000 by the time you added the cost of the kit (which you had to build), the motor and radio control gear....  That would be over $4,000 today when adjusted for inflation.  At $1,200 - these new drones look like it may be a great time to get back into it at bargain prices to boot

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Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Reiska on July 07, 2014, 05:30 AM
 [drooling]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: jonny round boy on July 07, 2014, 06:58 AM

About 25 years ago I got into RC helicopters which back then cost about  $2,000 by the time you added the cost of the kit (which you had to build), the motor and radio control gear....  That would be over $4,000 today when adjusted for inflation.  At $1,200 - these new drones look like it may be a great time to get back into it at bargain prices to boot


John,

It's really not the same thing. I used to fly rc helis too, back in the days when you had to *fly* them, rather than just telling them where you wanted it to go. One (mechanical) gyro was all I had, not the multitude of digital gyros and accelerometers these drones have.

This is my old 60 size Kavan Jet Ranger:

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And me flying it:

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 [big grin]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: jonny round boy on July 08, 2014, 06:08 PM
On a related note, I found this posted on my facebook wall today. A guy in Florida flew his quadcopter into a firework display. Don't watch this embedded, watch it on youtube in full HD. Some truly awesome shots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9KZ3jgbbmI&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9KZ3jgbbmI&feature=share)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Colin Giersberg on July 12, 2014, 12:42 AM
There has been some controversy about him flying the drone into the fireworks. I can't verify this, but I have heard that he is being fined $40,000 for this. The Coast Guard didn't approve this, nor did the FAA. Since the rules regarding drones are still being determined, the use of them is still pretty much up in the air (no pun intended). The danger of a ricochet off of the drone could have sent the errant explosive charge down into the crowd or into the area where the fireworks were being launched, with serious injuries or death resulting if this had happened.
I visit an aviation photography thread quite often and there have been some discussions about drones and the fireworks issue. Here its the link to the thread.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/600984/4217 (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/600984/4217)


I think Jim Wilson made the first post about it so scroll down to the ninth post on the page. Look for the comments by Jim Wilson, Steve Zimmerman and Jay Beckman in particular.
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: woodguy7 on July 12, 2014, 12:40 PM
That was very cool  [thumbs up]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: rrmccabe on July 12, 2014, 07:10 PM
I don't have enough money to risk putting the thing in situations like that.

So I will stick around areas I am familiar with and use it to make sure my gutters are clean :)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Thebesciak on November 01, 2014, 11:09 PM
This is my latest video from my small copter... Please watch in 1440p

http://youtu.be/DxlBm9FPpc8 (http://youtu.be/DxlBm9FPpc8)

If somebody would like to see the spec of my copter please let me know.
Thx
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: GreenGA on November 02, 2014, 05:16 AM
I attended PhotoPlus Expo at the Javits Center in NYC on Friday.  Flying cameras were all the rage.  There must have been at least half a dozen vendors there.  One vendor even had an 8-rotor model.  [eek]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Phil Beckley on November 02, 2014, 03:43 PM
Hi
 And for indoor tool shows also

https://www.facebook.com/its.co.uk#!/video.php?v=971350236215665&set=vb.368293376521357&type=2&theater
 (https://www.facebook.com/its.co.uk#!/video.php?v=971350236215665&set=vb.368293376521357&type=2&theater)

<<Edit:  Fixed Link - P.Halle>>

Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: jussi on July 07, 2015, 12:54 AM
Nice video. Were you able to get of the jello-ing after more practice?  What type of gimbal does it use? 2 or 3 axis? 

I'm building my first one. Can't wait to get it put together.



Disclaimer... I had no idea what I was doing first time out. LOL

DJI Phantom Vision 2 +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOA3QSZR9o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOA3QSZR9o&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Jim Kirkpatrick on July 07, 2015, 12:42 PM
Great videos posted here.  Seems like you need some skill to fly one, though.  The Lily is the way to go for me and only $700:

Lily Camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGcH0Bk3hg)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: woodguy7 on July 07, 2015, 01:24 PM
That Lily is too cool  ;D
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Cheese on July 07, 2015, 01:28 PM
Great videos posted here.  Seems like you need some skill to fly one, though.  The Lily is the way to go for me and only $700:


@Jim Kirkpatrick
I'm with you [thumbs up], the Lily is pretty neat. The waterproof footage was way cool.
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Jim Kirkpatrick on July 07, 2015, 03:13 PM
Another cool drone still in the planning stages is the Sprite.  I like how you can plot it's flight path on your phone using what looks like a GPS satellite image.  My point is, we are at the dawn of a new era in hi-def remote video. 

The Sprite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl8p7lQos4U)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Peter Halle on July 07, 2015, 05:13 PM
Those are cool.  I finally got my DJI Phantom 3 Advanced a couple of weeks ago.  I am still in the learning stage.

Peter
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: rizzoa13 on July 07, 2015, 05:21 PM
I preordered a zano for my sister from kick starter thats supposed to ship within the next couple months. She's a photography student going into her second year of college so it was a good fit. Check it out on flyzano.com the thing is outrageous in that it can follow you and evade things.
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Jim Kirkpatrick on July 07, 2015, 05:51 PM
I preordered a zano for my sister from kick starter thats supposed to ship within the next couple months. She's a photography student going into her second year of college so it was a good fit. Check it out on flyzano.com the thing is outrageous in that it can follow you and evade things.

Too Cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMxnYzPieo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMxnYzPieo)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: bkharman on July 07, 2015, 06:09 PM
I almost helped the Zano project on Kickstarter, but I came across a video showing the thing run and while it is impressive for the price point, the thing is very, very loud!

I know all of these consumer "drones" are a bit loud but the new autonomous ones to take pics and video while heading down the slopes are designed to be small and somewhat stealthy.

I do hope the Lilly is a bit quieter as it is a bit bigger but unfortunately I can't find a real world video for it right now. It is a same because they have some good funding prices at the moment!
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Clweed on July 07, 2015, 06:41 PM
I don't know jack about drones but I did order thisMicro drone (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-drone-3-0-flight-in-the-palm-of-your-hand--2#/story) for the heck of it
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Kevin Ross on July 09, 2015, 01:42 AM
Those are cool.  I finally got my DJI Phantom 3 Advanced a couple of weeks ago.  I am still in the learning stage.

Peter
@Peter Halle
Peter, interested if you could share some of your experiences. How is the learning curve on the Phantom 3? Did you have experience of earlier drones?
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Peter Halle on July 17, 2015, 08:28 PM
Sorry for my delay in getting back to you.  The modern quadcopters take much of the skill out of the equation.  The DJI Phantom 3 is definitely in this class.  There are many functions that help you automate and then there some designed  to keep you out of trouble and get your toy home.

There is a beginner mode that places limits on altitude and distance away from you.  There are firmware controls that calculate the battery usage and force the quad to come back to you or land immediately based on the battery level.

The app has many options and I really need to spend some time in a field and not around the trees at might house that are about 100 feet tall.

Pretty cool toy / tool.

Peter
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Kevin Ross on July 18, 2015, 11:27 AM

Pretty cool toy / tool.

Peter

Thanks Peter. I had a look at the Microdrone, mentioned by @Clweed, and placed an order to try out before moving up to the bigger drones.
Kev
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Kev on July 18, 2015, 12:11 PM
I think we need one specific section on this forum for cool toys ... and a profile option to suppress it [embarassed]

... I'm weakening towards one of these things!
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: cliffp on August 27, 2015, 05:34 AM
Kev, couldn't you attach a chainsaw to it and use it instead of your pole pruner?
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Kev on August 27, 2015, 06:44 AM
Kev, couldn't you attach a chainsaw to it and use it instead of your pole pruner?

Then it'd also come in useful in dealing with the odd annoying neighbour [wink]

@cliffp
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: cliffp on August 27, 2015, 09:45 AM
Quote
Then it'd also come in useful in dealing with the odd annoying neighbour [wink]

I can imagine this setup featuring in the next Mad Max movie.  [scared]
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Qwas on August 27, 2015, 10:50 AM
Or you could use them to deliver the tools to your table.

Quadcopter in Action (https://youtu.be/iqo2CoV1u8g)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: teocaf on August 27, 2015, 11:16 AM
that's hilarious.  looks like harvesting time at the qwas orchards.  those green dogs look like they got picked off the tree a bit early--still too green.  i would recommend allowing for a bit more ripening time...
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Dovetail65 on August 27, 2015, 11:35 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: New Flying camera.
Post by: Qwas on August 27, 2015, 11:53 AM
 [big grin]  [big grin]  [big grin]

I pick them early so they get to my customers at the proper ripeness.  [big grin]