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Offline teocaf

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2015, 11:51 PM »
It took forever for me to switch to digital--a very late adopter of the new technology.  Sold the Canon bodies and the Mamyia film hardware and got a Canon and a Leica digital.
I kept an old Nikon F body and lens and had them professionally refurbished because my young son is enamored with the idea of shooting with it.  So now I'm actually looking for some bargain basement rudimentary darkroom equipment so that I can show him how the old man used to do things in the days of black and white.  I also kept an ancient Remington portable typewriter and had it refurbished because he so enjoys banging his little stories on it.

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2015, 09:20 AM »
 Wow, yesterday I was just speaking with a friend who has switched over to digital and they won't ever look back. I still haven't gotten back into photography and even touched my  film cameras. But I just might make that jump into digital. What is holding me back is selling the slew of lenses and to a lesser extent, camera bodies for pennies on the dollar. Dilemmas, dilemmas.

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Offline Tinker

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2015, 12:58 PM »
I am in the same boat with camera and lenses.  I have a bottom of the line (almost)Nikon digital.  i have been thru a couple of them and each one seems to be getting better.  About two or three years ago, tried to sell my old Nikon SLR and could get nothing for it.  I have several lenses for it and I was told I could use those lenses on an upgrade to Digital SLR but it would have to be operated as manual.  I used to be content with manual SLR way back in the ealy '50's and into the '60s but no longer have a feel for light and speed adjustments.  I guess I have been 39 for too long. I had read this thread when it was first discussed here on the FOG and i knew almost nothing of what was being discussed.  I just stick with my little pocket cheepy and save my $$$ for Festoys.  ::) @Bob Marino
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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #63 on: October 26, 2015, 01:26 PM »
Wow, yesterday I was just speaking with a friend who has switched over to digital and they won't ever look back. I still haven't gotten back into photography and even touched my  film cameras. But I just might make that jump into digital. What is holding me back is selling the slew of lenses and to a lesser extent, camera bodies for pennies on the dollar. Dilemmas, dilemmas.

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Used cameras and lenses are like used cars in that they lose significant value the minute you walk out the dealer's door, and the process doesn't stop.  Then again, with the switch to digital, the new lenses are so far better in quality than they were even ten years ago and the light sensors in the digital bodies just seem to get better and better with every evolution.  The one thing that the high-tech bodies and lenses can't overcome is the lack of knowledge behind the camera.  The operator still needs to have a full understanding of light, aperture, shutter speed and composition.  All the technology in the world can't overcome the lack of knowledge.  That said, I must admit that I truly miss Kodachrome 25 and Cibachrome. 
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Offline DanielOB

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #64 on: October 26, 2015, 01:32 PM »
WHO IS STILL USING FILM?
and
WHO IS STILL USING OIL PAINTS AND CANVAS?

This is really difficult to understand to many, in time of : right-now, instant, see and erase-it, ...
But there are people using both, film and oil-paints, just it is no more for everyone.

Offline Dogberryjr

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2015, 01:38 PM »
I'm still using film, both 35mm and medium format, but I'm using less and less each year.  It's almost purely nostalgia that keeps me in film.

Offline DiscoStu

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2015, 04:59 PM »
I have a Nikon D200 and a F90. I was a student when I bought the F90 and it was horrifically expensive for me. I loved it and still do but I am ashamed to say that I cannot remember the last time I put a role of film through it. I bought a role of FP4 ages ago with a view to processing it myself and showing the kids. Needless to say I moved house twice and it obviously got binned at some point when we emptied the fridge.

Offline Tinker

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2015, 08:16 PM »
My first camera went out when we got rid of the ICE BOX  ;D
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Offline JeremyH.

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2015, 01:53 AM »

WHO IS STILL USING OIL PAINTS AND CANVAS?



Who the stuff wants to look at "paintings" not done with paint? The internet if full of art no one cares about. You just can't compare them like film of vinyl. The most highest flow of money within the art world is still modern art...

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2015, 08:48 AM »
The most highest flow of money within the art world is still modern art...

Some pundit called that, "art with a capital 'F'"...   [wink]
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Offline charley1968

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2015, 10:07 AM »
I do. Sometimes.
Just for today..

Offline Elmar50

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2015, 10:50 AM »
Henrik did a nice job with digital vs analog. I still use B&W film when on vacation or important family functions- weddings etc. Digital still doesn't have the look of a fiber based print exposed on an enlarger. I do love being able to have low and high speed, color and monochrome in one body.

Offline wolfhound

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2015, 09:01 AM »
This is really difficult to understand to many, in time of : right-now, instant, see and erase-it, ...

Well put !

Offline Cheese

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2015, 12:29 PM »
I force myself to dust off the old film gear, replace (F) or recharge (F5) the batteries and shoot some film a couple of times a year. If I'm lucky and happen to find enough interesting subjects, I can go through 3-4 rolls per year. That's about it...and if I didn't force myself to even do that, the old cameras would just sit in the chest and collect dust.

And while a DSLR is so convenient to use compared to film, the in-phone camera is even more convenient because of its size. Especially with the new iPhone having a 12MP camera, I seldom find myself even reaching for the DSLR anymore to document construction projects.

Talking about film, for the purists out there, I came across this offer the other day. KONO Donau film with an ISO of 6!!! And who thought Kodachrome 25 was slow... [eek]

http://shop.lomography.com/en/kono-donau-6-135-cn-3pack?source=webgains&siteid=149405

Offline JeremyH.

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2015, 08:28 PM »
Almost no one owns a camera that can resolve the resolution of a medium format film camera. They exist, but they're out of mere mortal range of affordability. For example a $10k digital medium format camera back still isn't nearly as good as a film version.

Large format can't be touched.

Just saying... personally for small documentation and such I just use my phone, btw.

Offline sanangelo

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2015, 08:11 PM »
I just sold my EOS 3.  It was a great camera in its day and I loved the eye control it had (I wish Canon still had this).  I just haven't used film in several years so I sold it as it has no emotional attachment like my older all metal / manual cameras do.  I also found that I really enjoy digital more.  most likely because there are only 2 places left in my town that do development and only 1 I would half trust.  I got tired of having to mail my film off.  I also love using Lightroom when I get home.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2015, 08:15 PM by sanangelo »

Offline HowardH

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« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2015, 10:32 PM »
Wow.  Can't believe it's been 6 years since I started this post!  It think that was more like 20 pounds ago.  I was rummaging through the closet and found a few rolls of exposed film.  Who knows how long they have been there.  They may not turn out at all. Now I got to find some place to develop them.  I've moved on from the D200 and have a D610.  Fantastic camera!  Fast and huge files.  Using the video turned out to be a big pain the rear so I got a 4K Sony camcorder.  Much easier to use.   I'll see if Costco can send them out.  I don't think they process any more on site.  Who knows what I will find!
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Offline Cheese

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2015, 11:16 PM »
Let's just resolve to keep this thread going...what goes around, comes around.

I owned a Nimslo 3D camera that I wish I still had. But like all the film Polaroids, Minoltas & Nikons I owned, eventually they just got relegated to the dust bin from the past.

I remember trading in a prime 24 mm, prime 28 mm, prime 135 mm and a 500 mm CAT lens for literally 1 penny on the dollar. Very foolish, but at the time, it seemed like it was the proper thing to do because I was in the heat of the battle. [eek]

Offline Elmar50

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2015, 11:19 PM »
Many consider the product overpriced, it's users are often very devoted to the instrument and the craft  (although it seems that some are much more into the former than the latter). Not talking about Festool, though. Having just read From Darkroom to Daylight, it was noteworthy how many of the photographers interviewed still use Leica M's. Any Leica users in the FOG?



Offline JeremyH.

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2015, 11:50 PM »
I use an M2.

Offline Dogberryjr

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #80 on: November 23, 2015, 09:20 AM »
Any Leica users in the FOG?
Just for film these days (M7, MP and IIIF).  I had an M9 for a while, but I couldn't get over the price tag; it made it difficult to take out and use as a camera should be used.  I'd love to have a digital M mount for convenience, but it doesn't look like that price curve is budging.

Offline DanielOB

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #81 on: November 23, 2015, 12:35 PM »

WHO IS STILL USING OIL PAINTS AND CANVAS?



Who the stuff wants to look at "paintings" not done with paint? The internet if full of art no one cares about. You just can't compare them like film of vinyl. The most highest flow of money within the art world is still modern art...
Most of modern "ART" is cheap and it is that sell them, like made in China stuff. Most people buying it do not care what is on it but care just about the size which have to cover the ruined wall, and such "Art" is less expensive than to re-paint the wall.

Selling real paintings never been easy due to cost of such things, and today is added a kind of made in china culture too. But there are still people buying Art, just internet and massive information makes such small number of people, as always was, as neglected.

Offline JeremyH.

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« Reply #82 on: November 23, 2015, 01:49 PM »
Any Leica users in the FOG?
Just for film these days (M7, MP and IIIF).  I had an M9 for a while, but I couldn't get over the price tag; it made it difficult to take out and use as a camera should be used.  I'd love to have a digital M mount for convenience, but it doesn't look like that price curve is budging.

My M2 is a little beat up. But I try not to damage it, it is from the 50's and still going. I had an Olympus OM2n that I really liked, and might get another. They're pretty small and work great. But I'm such a Pentax lens fan... I might have to spring for their expensive one some day.

The IIIF I had was fun to use, I even got some good shots. I sort of miss it. The f3.5 lens was a pain, but it did compact the camera greatly. You can barely seen what you're composing. It's hard to take candid moments it seemed like, but I still got good shots?

I'd like a Monochrome Leica, for digital. I still fear the photos wouldn't be as valuable to me. However in the case of family photographs and such it'd be really nice given how many have been botched due to film issues... Yes I'd take family photos with like $16k worth of camera if I had it.

Offline Tinker

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« Reply #83 on: November 23, 2015, 02:03 PM »

WHO IS STILL USING OIL PAINTS AND CANVAS?



Who the stuff wants to look at "paintings" not done with paint? The internet if full of art no one cares about. You just can't compare them like film of vinyl. The most highest flow of money within the art world is still modern art...
Most of modern "ART" is cheap and it is that sell them, like made in China stuff. Most people buying it do not care what is on it but care just about the size which have to cover the ruined wall, and such "Art" is less expensive than to re-paint the wall.

Selling real paintings never been easy due to cost of such things, and today is added a kind of made in china culture too. But there are still people buying Art, just internet and massive information makes such small number of people, as always was, as neglected.

When my brother was in grade school thru highschool, he was a very talented artist.  He was good enuf  that even I thought he was good.  Eventually, he ended up going to college to study art, and even more eventually, he became quite haughty in his ‘tude towards mere mortals of lesser talent.  It was while he was attending Cleveland Art Institute that he invited me to come visit.

While I was visiting, he was won’t to attend a student, or faculty, art show on campus.  The walls were covered with, IMHO, some very horribly and uninteresting examples of absolutely formless blobs of paint, each of which was enclosed with rather common forms of  frames, wood and, probably plastic meant to look like wood. 

As brother and friends observed each “painting”, the expressions of admiration amounted to such exclmations as: “Wow!” or “That is magnificent” and so on and on.  I could not stand it so I walked on ahead in hopes there might be a table just around the next corner where it might be possible for one (specifically “I”) might find a cup of Java or even better, a cold bucket o’suds.  As I stumbled along, I suddenly came upon the only art of any value in the whole darned exhibit.  I stopped to look at the small girl sitting on a stonewall and holding a flower and looking off into space with the most dreamy and beautiful expression in her eyes.  I just had to admire what I felt to be the only work of art in the whole darned building.  That was way back around 1956 or ’57 and I can still see that painting. 

As Brother and friends neared the object of my admiration, I decided I should move on, but stayed close enough I could listen to the "ooohs!" and "ahs” as they came upon a real work of art.  Actually, I was not really surprised as I heard my brother comment, “Ugh!  Why in (censored) did they ever let that thing in here?”  His friends joined in with several of their own observations based on about the same level of admiration. 

So much for my expertise as an art critic.  ::)
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Offline Cheese

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #84 on: November 23, 2015, 10:05 PM »
Tinker...as they say, art's in the eyes of the beholder...

Offline Elmar50

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2015, 12:34 AM »
The best camera is the one you have with you. So, if I have one to choose, it's a digital. Monochrome, color, low and high ISO all in one body. Back in the film days, one of the reasons I became a Leicaphile was having one body for color and another for B&W and I used a wideangle (I have a 35 preaspheric Summilux which is tiny and my favorite lens) and either a 50mm or a short tele. It all fit in a small bag. The opportunity to purchase a used M9 at a really good price (effectively- no depreciation for 3 years!) allowed me to go back to my old work flow. I still prefer film for B&W  (MP is my Monochrome). As for digital vs analog- it's subjective. As for what is art, digital has made photography so ubiquitous, that for me, what's important is- does the image say what I want it to say? My reason for photographing is Roy Batty's "All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain". I don't want to forget.

Offline JeremyH.

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2015, 03:17 AM »
My problem with color is to compete with digital you need to use slide film. It's beautiful, and converted to B&W it's stunning. But it's so difficult for metering just right. It's too easy to screw up. Porta is ok for some content. But honestly for film I like expired color.

I'll say I like 35mm, too. I use a 50mm all the time but 35mm is handy for candid when you're with people you know, or in highly populated areas.

The worst thing about digital for me is price, generally. Sony Nex cameras aren't too bad (7 or better). Leica's are a fortune. But if I want really good quality I'll just shoot medium format. My big problem is the pictures somehow don't mean much to me with digital.

I'm a little bit of a camera nerd for analog, and knowing what's good... I've got a Minolta XE-7, which has an amazing release. Also I've got a Olympus Pen D3 half frame, 1.7/f; it needs to be gone through however. I use a P&S Yashica T4. But actually I love Olympus Stylus (not zoom) Epic/Mju or standard because it's got the best protective body and is good at metering. I had a Contax G2, and the lenses are VERY good on it.

Photos are;

Contax G2 3200asa, Contax G2 efke 50asa (rodinal), Yashica GSN Porta 160asa, unknown on agfa x-ray film, M2 w/Canon 50mm 1.8 - Efke 50asa, M2 w/Canon 50mm 1.8 - Efke 50asa.




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Offline mrB

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #87 on: December 26, 2015, 10:45 AM »
I recently picked up an old Konica SLR on eBay for a few £. I purchased it for the 2
Lenses it came with that I'll adapt to my mirrorless camera.

But when I saw the camera had a 'fresh' roll of film I began to take pictures. . . . Who knows what the results will be come developing, and I doubt this little foray will have me back shooting film again, but I am already enjoying the excitement of waiting to develop/see my pictures. Also the selective nature of taking shots, when there are only 24 shots on the roll. . . 
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline HowardH

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« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2016, 10:18 PM »
Update. I finally took that roll I mentioned last year and one other I found to be developed and it was like opening a time capsule!  There were pictures of my son in the sixth grade!  (he's going into his senior year)  It has rekindled my love of film.  The guy at the Wolfe store told me that believe it or not, film is making a comeback.  I ordered some fresh Portra 400 from BH in New York and it arrived today.  I'll still going use my D610 but I'll be bringing my F100 body along in my bag.  It's a much easier decision as the D610 is a full frame camera as well as my lenses.  I like the anticipation after dropping off the exposed rolls and seeing what is waiting for me on the prints.  I also had a motor winder/battery holder (MB-15) but the batteries were so old that they corroded and maybe ruined it.  It was sent to Nikon a couple of days to see if it can repaired.  If not, I'll just buy on on Ebay.  Time to start shooting!
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 10:32 PM by HowardH »
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: who is still using film?
« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2016, 05:10 PM »
Update. I finally took that roll I mentioned last year and one other I found to be developed and it was like opening a time capsule!  There were pictures of my son in the sixth grade!  (he's going into his senior year)  It has rekindled my love of film.  The guy at the Wolfe store told me that believe it or not, film is making a comeback.  I ordered some fresh Portra 400 from BH in New York and it arrived today.  I'll still going use my D610 but I'll be bringing my F100 body along in my bag.  It's a much easier decision as the D610 is a full frame camera as well as my lenses.  I like the anticipation after dropping off the exposed rolls and seeing what is waiting for me on the prints.  I also had a motor winder/battery holder (MB-15) but the batteries were so old that they corroded and maybe ruined it.  It was sent to Nikon a couple of days to see if it can repaired.  If not, I'll just buy on on Ebay.  Time to start shooting!

If Nikon can't or won't fix it, you might contact Mora Camera Service in DC.   Jorge Mora has been around a long time, and only works on Nikon products. 
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