So this thread is about complaining about the price being the problem of a solution of something that I think is the real problem.....
Forgive me for this rather cryptic start.
Let me first introduce myself briefly at this 2nd or 3rd port here.
After a short while of lurking I joined this useful group and as a relative beginner in woodworking I learn a lot.
Projects in the past were doing the interior of my house-boat (still unfinished) and some rough furniture stuff for the children.
That made me decide to buy festool, because my motto is that developing your own skills using professional tools is cheaper than hiring the professional. After all, even if a project fails the first time, the tools are still there. I'm nearly 50 YO, as my forum-name suggests, and might become a grandfather in the not so long away future.
So I started to think about creating wooden toys.
Now about the sysport/systainer/pricing thing.
The systainer solves the problem that stacked systainers are not accessible (at least their contents aren't).
So Festool came up with the sysport, that provides drawers to enable the owner to open systainers individually.
Isn't this describing that the real problem is the systainer?
I've read Steve Jones' thread Home made systainer and basis system and one of my plans is to adopt his idea with a slight modification: all boxes will have a drawer, so I can access the tools any time. I will make inserts for my tools. I move them to and from the boat, and having sysports in my garage and in the boat doesn't make sense.
Whatever way I look into it, the sysport is curing the symptom. Curing the problem requires redesigning the systainer. Of course, adapting the systainer concept to an all-over drawer thing would kill cash-cow that sysport might be right now. But, IMHO, it is the ultimate solution.
CJ
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Exactly
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on: Today at 05:50 AM
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| Started by Eiji Fuller - Last post by jonny round boy | ||
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Beautiful set Eiji! I agree 100% Just one thing though - isn't 635 bucks a bit too cheap? You don't want to undervalue your products! ![]() |
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| Started by Eiji Fuller - Last post by RonWen | ||
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Beautiful set Eiji!
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on: Today at 05:14 AM
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| Started by Peter Halle - Last post by jonny round boy | ||
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Come on people - Let Peter know your (outline) requirements!!!
It's not a firm commitment, so don't worry about that yet (but on the other hand, don't ask for 20 systainers if you know you'd never really buy that many!). I for one REALLY want this to happen, and Peter is putting a lot of his (unpaid) time into this, so PLEASE go to the NEXT STEP thread & send him your details. Without getting a realistic idea of sizes & quantities we can't get pricing, and the whole thing falls down... ![]() |
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on: Today at 04:08 AM
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| Started by ebreuer - Last post by clintholeman | ||
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If you are building furniture and cabinets. you might want to consider a Domino. You already have a saw - a great one with the MFT - and a safe one.
Domino will be a game changer for you - a significant one. Just a thought from a furniture and cabinet maker who doesn't own, nor want to have a table saw, but is quite enamored of his FesTool system. |
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on: Today at 04:06 AM
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| Started by Peter Halle - Last post by Peter Halle | ||
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Well, here we are right now in regards to numbers and types wanted. I need people who voted in the poll to come forward and go to this thread. To give your choices: Interested In
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| Started by PeterK - Last post by jonny round boy | ||
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Festool really need to do something about the pricing in Canada. Most Festool products now cost over 20% less in the US than in Canada given the Canadian dollar strength. Apple change their prices every three months to eliminate price discrepancies between the two countries. This is much fairer for dealers and does not encourage consumers to cross the border to buy their goods. Yes, but sneaking through customs with an iPod is a heck of a lot easier than with a Sysport... ![]() |
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| Started by Eiji Fuller - Last post by Eiji Fuller | ||
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My latest.
Jointer and smoother set with bamboo wall shelf. Jatoba and Ebony Wall shelf with Ebony splined miters. The set with shelf sold for 635. Will be delivered tomorrow with a few nice curlys off of some curly maple. |
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on: Today at 03:39 AM
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| Started by KMorley - Last post by morogue | ||
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75 all day long, unless you have pipe cleaner arms.
![]() I have used mine to trim installed eaves (yes, upside down at a 30 degree angle), trimmed up two installed gates (vertically), surgically opened a wall, trimmed the guts of a mantle, all cuts done it situ, vertical, up down and sideways. I just went around the homestead looking for things to trim or straighten. It worked flawlessly, but I was careful. I gained enough confidence to use it for client work. I I I find the power useful when cutting multiple sheets of 3/4 ply. I would say that the bevel adjustment is a cruel joke. So, precise, so well built, but the saw is so huge that it just can't stay on track... So, yeah it's big, but it's America and everything is better bigger. |
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