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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by tjbnwi on Yesterday at 11:09 PM »
@James Biddle,

Regarding the Vac-Sys and parts size. Use a piece large enough to cover the "cup", with a hole drilled just off center, place this on the cup, place the smaller piece over the hole. You may have to crib up the smaller piece to use the Domino, but you'll figure that out.

Trion/Carxex---I use the jigsaw upside down 99.9% of the time, no problem seeing the cut line.

Tom
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C'mon. Most people know the big cords work with every tool, big and small. It's a financial decision to not upgrade and consolidate.
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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by SRSemenza on Yesterday at 11:07 PM »


New shop and making a move will not include Festool, how can it. it's a shame I loved this forum and the guys here, but with forum leaning toward not being able to talk about other tools and me not having anything nice to say about Festool  I just dont see me being here, I am not going to cause drama. The QC is out the window, reminds me of the Laguna fiasco of about 5 years ago, something its wrong.

I am done!


     We are trying and are planning to be trying a little harder to rejuvenate FOG. But times and things do change and forums like everything else evolve. We would very much like it to move up the scale rather than down.  As far as not being able to talk about other tool brands goes? Not sure where that is coming from other that the recent / current Mafell topic where it was suggested that more and better info could be found on the Mafell forum rather than on the Festool forum. I have always  felt that being able to talk about other tool brands on FOG was a hallmark considering that the FOG is owned and operated by Festool.

    @Dovetail65     I do think that this is a rather dramatic post considering that you don't want to cause drama.  But I can certainly understand your extreme frustration and blowing off a little steam.

     Good luck with your new shop move. Would be great to see a shop tour or the like posted here.

Seth

Wait a second, I said my piece, one post and a follow up or two. Was I to say nothing at all? So it's drama to post  my one experience?

Your statement:

"I do think that this is a rather dramatic post considering that you don't want to cause drama."

The drama I am referring to is if I became vindictive telling everyone who will listen that there are issues with these sanders, posting  25-100 posts here on out dissing the tool. Some here have literally posted 100 times dissing the Kapex and the motor at every turn making that topic into a fiasco over several months. That is the drama I am not going to get in to. I actually believe you knew that already. Had you not made the above statement I would not even be back in this thread.

Near 5000 posts advocating Festool with ONE THREAD EVER STARTED STARTING TOOL DISSATISFACTION IN 8 YEARS. The only thing from a Festool perspective I have ever done negative is simply state a facts and comparisons that some some Fetools might not be the right choice, today was the first time I ever actually dissed a tool in a thread topic and it was after giving the benefit of the doubt over a period of months.


If I am not a guy Festool would want on the forum I have no idea who would be. I think to myself am I crazy, I don't get paid, what am I doing advocating for a tool company, I must be nuts. I guess the kool aid wore off or something because reading your one sentence for some weird reason hurt me for a second.. And that's weird to me.


    Well, exactly,(the bold above). The topic post you made, coming from a forum supporting member with a history of saying both good and bad with first hand experience about Festool products, with the title "I am done"?  With  a listing of tool problems, and a few comments about the forum direction, etc. Followed by (paraphrasing) I am quitting FOG? (All fine to state by the way, no problem in that regard).

    Yeah, it is a pretty big change up topic coming from you. And a bit surprising in it's sudden abruptness. No problem with you starting the topic or saying what you have said. But there is a lot there that is bound to draw a pretty big reaction and possibly dramatic response.  I was not meaning to suggest that you were going to purposely cause drama going forward. I was just pointing out that the original topic starting post, due to the above, was in and of itself dramatic. Not necessarily in a bad way or a good way. But it just seemed to be dramatic and that it (the original post) may cause some drama.

   Also it was not intended to hurt you. I am sorry that you took it that way if even for a second.

Seth
   
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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by jobsworth on Yesterday at 11:07 PM »
As far as training goes, Ive been to about 3-4 training classes loved them. FT is available to give tech advice as to how to use their tools to do a certain operation. There is festool TV, there is the FOG, most members are really helpful.
The festool dealers who asre worth a salt have people who are trained in and very good at using festools.

 The dealers have the festool rep periodically has reps come out to their businesses and demo the tools and when I show up answered all my questions and helped me with any issues Ive had.

The info is available.
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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by tjbnwi on Yesterday at 11:03 PM »
Hey guys/gals, first post. I've been dreaming of these tools and couldn't justify the cost. Hilton and Amazon worked out a deal to use your hhonors to shop and made my dreams come true. Used my stash of hhonors points to purchase the domino 500, systainer full of dominos and cutters, ct26 dust collector, and the ets ec 125 brushless sander.

I joined FOG today finally as a real festool owner and the first post I read is this one from a well respected FOG member and I'm thinking I should have taken a 3 week vacation with these points instead.

Am I good to go?

From my perspective, I'm really enjoying the domino. It is the only way I have currently to join a 45 degree mitered table apron to a 90 degree square table leg. The perfect joint in my mind would be to make the end of the mitered apron a dovetail and cut a dovetail slot into the square table leg on a 45 degree angle. However, I don't have a tilting router table. I did my first mitered apron to square table leg today with three 4x20 dominos and it's perfect. I feel like I could make some quality furniture finally.

Looking forward to seeing what else I can make.


Brent

The Domino is a tool you will never regret owning. It is a one of a kind and does what it does extremely well. For the record I have 2-500's and a 700. I'd give up one of my TS's before I'd ever give up a Domino.

Tom
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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by James Biddle on Yesterday at 11:01 PM »
I fully understand the OP's position.  He, like I, have been big Festool supporters over the last number of years.  I own 10 power tools, 4 cordless, 2 vacs, and I've considered myself a big Festool fan.  But, the relationship seems to be more one sided these days.

I sold my Kapex far cheaper than the 'Festool keeps its prices' mantra.

I sold my MFS because not only did I not use it, but Festool stopped selling it.

I sold my first two track saws because I not use them, and that's a lot of cash sitting in the too crib.

I have two vacs that have been absolute beasts, but why did they cheap out on the quality of the MIDI hose?

I can't argue with the quality of my OF1400 router...love it.

My Domino has more than paid for itself, but I wish the QC extended to sending the tool with everything aligned...I cur one slot small and the matching one large and ignore the alignment issue.

Sanders, where do I start?

My original Festool purchase was a lightly used ETS 150/3. I,be had to send it in once for repair, but it's also been a tool beast.  I bought the EC 150 replacement and although it has some nice features, it does not give me that same 'this is a great tool' feeling as the original.

Then I bought an RS2.  Jumpy for the first bunch of hours then it smoothed out.  Hate that the cord is attached an I can't use my hose/cord setup.  In what way is this part of a system?

Picked up a RO 90 and 150.  Haven't used the 150 much, but the 90 has been a solid performer on sanding face frames, albeit really fatiguing keeping it flat.

Bought the RTS 400 sander in hopes it will help me sand face frames and ease my joints/muscles...too early too tell.

I bought the vac-sys to help holding parts for sanding and Dominos.  Early returns are positive for parts that fit the modules, not so much on those that don"t.

Oh, I have the small cordless saw to help me at remote sits, but have not he'd occasion to test it yet.

I have the CXS and TI-18 drills and find them to be a great combo, love the battery life...own and find the Centronics crap and a money grab.  If you sell and market a tool for the US, sell the darn bits too.

Trion, meh. Why did you make a tool where you can't see the cut line.

Stop the 'system' crap.  You make cordless tools that have no more DC than Black and Decker, make tools that the only 'system' inference is that it hooks to your vacs, and you make tools that have no integration capability. I could go on.

You have to provide tools that last forever, without repair, to justify your prices in today's market, where other companies like Mafell are eating your lunch on craftsmanship and innovation and the lower end companies are competing head to head. 

I've been a Festool fanboy for years, but the bloom seems to be fading.  I don't want to hear about new cordless tools that replace my existing tools, I want to hear about the latest COOL tools you were known for introducing.


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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: I am done
« Last post by brentseay on Yesterday at 10:58 PM »
Hey guys/gals, first post. I've been dreaming of these tools and couldn't justify the cost. Hilton and Amazon worked out a deal to use your hhonors to shop and made my dreams come true. Used my stash of hhonors points to purchase the domino 500, systainer full of dominos and cutters, ct26 dust collector, and the ets ec 125 brushless sander.

I joined FOG today finally as a real festool owner and the first post I read is this one from a well respected FOG member and I'm thinking I should have taken a 3 week vacation with these points instead.

Am I good to go?

From my perspective, I'm really enjoying the domino. It is the only way I have currently to join a 45 degree mitered table apron to a 90 degree square table leg. The perfect joint in my mind would be to make the end of the mitered apron a dovetail and cut a dovetail slot into the square table leg on a 45 degree angle. However, I don't have a tilting router table. I did my first mitered apron to square table leg today with three 4x20 dominos and it's perfect. I feel like I could make some quality furniture finally.

Looking forward to seeing what else I can make.


Brent
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Fun, Games, Diversions / Re: Lack of Project Posts on the Forum
« Last post by Cheese on Yesterday at 10:48 PM »
Interesting point...time versus real time.

From my experience:
Time = haus frau’s desired time line.
Real time = the actual time it takes for the project to be completed by a competent worker.

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Fun, Games, Diversions / Re: Ill Show Ya Mine If Ya Show Me Yours (MFT)
« Last post by jobsworth on Yesterday at 10:36 PM »
I saw yours Peter and Ill show ya more of mines. I didnt get the underneath side which is better (worse) maybe I will tomorrow. Ill prolly find the nice kerf I cut into the V groove
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Fun, Games, Diversions / Re: Lack of Project Posts on the Forum
« Last post by SRSemenza on Yesterday at 10:32 PM »
why have a vote good or bad project. This isnt dancing with the stars ya know. Someone (like me) post a basic project and gets a lot of views with a few comments.

Instead of voting ya can just give them a "u suck" comment and go on. its the same thing as a negative vote right? If their is some advise or criticism just ask the guy why he did it that way and not some other way.

Most of the stuff is personal preference, skill level and tools availability and space...

After woodworking for 22years Ive perfected the art of butchering about every species of wood on 2 continents  [big grin]

No , not a vote on whether or not a project is good or bad. A vote on whether or not members want a like button.

Sorry for the muddling of discussion within the project topic.

Seth
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