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General Friendly Chat / Re: Any Motorsport Enthusiasts ??
« Last post by mwildt on Yesterday at 07:41 PM »
Definitely cool. Takes some big nuts for sure.
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Is this Timber Woodworking? It wouldn't surprise me if it was. I have only been there once but the guys there were great.
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General Friendly Chat / Re: Any Motorsport Enthusiasts ??
« Last post by Don T on Yesterday at 07:27 PM »
I'm more into drag racing. That 300 MPH in under 4 seconds is a amazing.
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Haha.  Another one bites the dust and still no response from Festool.  Glad your dealer helped you out.  Sorry to hear about your Kapex. 
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General Friendly Chat / Any Motorsport Enthusiasts ??
« Last post by mwildt on Yesterday at 06:38 PM »
So this week-end there are lots of entertainment. 24hr of Nurnburgring, F1 Monaco and Indy 500.

Good overview:
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/05/memorial-day-weekend-means-f1-the-indy-500-nascar-and-the-nurburgring-24/

Some good teasers to get started

2016 - Nurnburgring
Relaxed drive -




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Festool Tool Reviews / Re: Festool quality?
« Last post by HarveyWildes on Yesterday at 06:04 PM »
I think there are several kinds of quality.  What this thread seems to be about is reliability, which is one kind of quality.  While the jury is still out on this one pending more data, for my part I have purchased ten Festool tools, none more than two years old, and have sent two of them in for repair.  Festool repair has been very quick to repair them, so downtime (yet another measure of quality) has been minimal, and at virtually no cost.  However, as the three year warrantee periods expire, future repairs will become more expensive.

It seems to me that where Festool excels is at yet another measure of quality - fitness for use.  The integrated design for dust collection and design for use at customer sites with minimal impact on the site and relatively easy transportability are all characteristics of this measure of quality.  So far I'm not impressed with Festool reliability, since both my Milwaukee and DeWalt tools have been much more reliable over a much longer period.  However, the quality of the design for dust control is useful enough to me that I will continue to buy/use Festool - as long as the cost of reliability does not become too burdensome.

As a counter example to my overall happiness with Festool fitness for use, I will shortly be posting my C18 for sale in the classifieds because (1) it broke under moderate use and has had to be repaired, (2) it is not integrated into the Festool dust collection system, which is the primary fitness of use category for me, and (3) while it is well designed for fitness of use for drilling, that aspect of fitness of use does not outweigh the potential for reliability issues in the long run, at least for me.  Add to that the lack of a Festool solution for 1/4" ball detent bits.   I can do what I need to do perfectly well with my Milwaukee and DeWalt drills, at the same dust levels, without having to buy new bits.  However, by offering it in the classifieds at some future date, I'm assuming that others of you out there will disagree with my calculations, and think that the quality of design offsets the potential unreliability, whatever you think that might be.
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The local dealer's service clearly above and beyond.  Disappointing to hear about yet another Kapex going down.
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Not really, It's what they're obligated to do under their terms of sale to you.


The dealer doesn't have to loan you their floor model. I did not buy my Kapex from them, I had purchased from an Online dealer.

Exactly. There is no obligation for the dealer to loan a tool while one is being repaired

Seth.
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The dealer doesn't have to loan you their floor model. I did not buy my Kapex from them, I had purchased from an Online dealer.
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"Good to hear they took care of you though. That was very nice of them."

Not really, It's what they're obligated to do under their terms of sale to you.

Very nice would be taking care of the problem after year three.  Something that they have been known to do on occasion, but not necessarily with kapex.

I think keeping the shipping box + packing mtrl. is wise for any tool that doesn't come in a systainer.
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