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Crazy. We have a small kitchen but ex appliances I think our kitchen cost 1500 euros! Including all cabinets and fronts. Obviously that's laminated fronts, but still a wooden worktop. Ikea forever!

Yes it’s crazy, hand made hand painted kitchens seem to be fashionable right now, and extortionately priced. Some of the nicest looking kitchens I’ve seen (subject to taste and opinion) are among the cheapest. I recently commented on a kitchen where we installed some doors, and the client told me it was from Wickes!

Going back to topic and tools, as I said, I would have a router on the list, Kitchen fitting or otherwise, anybody that’s involved in woodwork, carpentry and joinery etc should have at least one in their armoury. Also, I would definitely recommend an oscillating multi tool.
We now have three of them, and they are one of those tools, that once you’ve bought, you are left wondering how you managed withouth one.

My updated suggested list in no particular order:

Plunge saw
Dust extractor
Parf Guide System (Mk 2 would be my choice) or MFT/3, or both.
Miter saw
Router
Jigsaw
Multi tool
Drill drivers
Planer
Finishing sander

The above tools will cover most situations, and although I’m looking at it from a professional angle, those are the tools that see the most every day action for me.

Other tools like, biscuit joiners, or a Domino, table saws, planer thicknessers, jointers, edge banders and spindle moulders etc, etc can be added if and when needed.






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Member Projects / Re: Elegant garden swing build
« Last post by Gregor on Today at 03:23 AM »
Nice work.
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Classifieds / WTB conturo accessories set
« Last post by safety1st on Today at 03:08 AM »
Looking for one in good/like new condition

This one: Festool 500177 Edge Bander Trimming Set KB-KA 65 SYS For Conturo

Please let know if you have one for sale.

Thanks.
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Crazy. We have a small kitchen but ex appliances I think our kitchen cost 1500 euros! Including all cabinets and fronts. Obviously that's laminated fronts, but still a wooden worktop. Ikea forever!
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Have you looked at Blum aventos hf
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In designing (and building) my last kitchen, I have overlooked the availability of a specific hardware
The box is 30" wide inside x 31" high. I realize now that it is too high to have a lift up system of any kind.
The box is too narrow to have horizontal tambour door(s).
I'm trying to avoid the vertical tambour door, the customer does not like it.
Do you have any suggestions? is there any (preferably hinged) hardware that I have not discovered?
I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you
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Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
« Last post by jeffm13 on Today at 01:44 AM »
I used to be a SketchUp guy using it with my Mac, but given the hefty cost of SU, I moved over to Autodesk Fusion and I have to admit I like it much better. 

Thanks @mdihle . Your post inspired me to take a look. I just downloaded Fusion, and I absolutely love it. I've been using Sketchup since just after Google bought them. And I kept using it after Google set them free. But Fusion takes 3d modeling to a whole new level. I don't yet see how it is free for non-commercial use, but it's powerful enough that even if I have to buy a subscription, I might. I have a friend who told me how much he likes it, but I never really looked any further. Now, I finally see why. I used to do quite a lot with Sketchup. Enough so that I even purchased a 3d mouse.  But it was difficult enough to create an accurate model in Sketchup, that I mostly stopped using Sketchup and the mouse.  With Fusion, I just might actually put that mouse to use again: modeling that walnut dining room table with butterfly leaves that I'm about to start on.

@usernumber1, I did a little bit of research, and while I didn't find a cutlist equivalent for Fusion, it looks like there is an extension that will provide a bill of material in CSV format that will list out everything in the model, along with length, width and height of each component. Not really a cutlist, but I'll probably use it.
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Festool Jigs & Tool Enhancements / Re: More fun with 80/20...??
« Last post by tallgrass on Today at 01:38 AM »
TSO- you should definitely start dealing with RUWI. I have had their products integrated into my shop for some time. My R&D work covers quite a range of materials and machines and the flexibility that their product bring is truly usuful. Being able to buy them in the USA would be very nice. While Tobias is a great guy, I would prefer a shorter procurement scheme. 
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Another vote for adding a cyclone and using the festool. I have a ct36 with the Oneida cyclone and I use it for most anything including cleaning out the car. The cyclone captures most of the dirt and bulky stuff leaving your bag free to act more as a filter and keep the air around you clean. Mostly, I like it because it is so much quieter than the typical big box shop vacuums not to mention the stability and it not tending to fall over when the hose gets yanked. If you’d like to save a bit, many of the hoses and attachments from less expensive shop vacuums will work. I can’t make any specific brand recommendations, but try some out and you may be surprised. I have two hoses from a rigid shop vac, I believe, and I have used them on my ct36 with the festool hoses. The only minus with the festools are that while they are very good at pulling a strong vacuum, they are a bit weak in terms of the volume of air they move. For instance, an upright vacum can sometimes move more air.
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Festool and Tanos Systainers / Re: MIDI-Systainers
« Last post by SRSemenza on Today at 01:17 AM »
Can't say how long they will be available, maybe a long time. But the two sizes available are probably the most useful sizes in relation to the other dimensions. A size one would not be bad to have, but size four or five would be getting quite large. An expanded range with more options would be good but not sure how useful the other possibilities would really be.

I suspect that there are enough available and probably for the near future that you would not need to worry too much about availability. They still stack with regular Sys. if need be. I have a couple and have ideas for a couple more. If I were you and they are the size you need, I would just go ahead and use them.


My issue is the same with all "totes" is there are no standards.  I want something that isn't about availability for the foreseeable future, but the indefinite future.  I also don't like having mixes. I want a proper standard to exist.  If it looked like Tanos had intentions to complete the midi line or added something to it from time to time it would show it's an active product.

The MIDIs work, it's like using a 45ft conex mixed with 40ft conex containers.  I just wish it's was more complete and was in use just the same as the normal size.

    Well in this case there is a standard ...........  the regular size Systainers. Unless you mean cross brand standards. Just because the Midi exists (and does work with the rest) doesn't mean the whole line is a jumble of incompatible sizes and styles.   A standardized system is the whole point of Systainers.  Can't get much more standard and still have modular usability.  And really the Midis are just as much a standard compared to the regular size as a regular size Sys-I is to a taller one , say a Sys - V.  It is taller so not standard. The Midi is wider so not standard.  But they do work together and are part of the same modular system.

     So it would be better not to have the Midi option? Or if the situation were reversed not have the regular size option?

      I guess the best would be to have both regular and Midi be complete lines. Drawer Midi, etc. as well. That would actually be great. I would probably still use the regular size for most things. I just find it to be a more convenient footprint and the Midis would be too big for many things. I do prefer one footprint. I try to get everything into the regular sizes and everything into Systainers period. But I still wouldn't pick just one line. That would be a loss of versatility and I would have to end up putting some things into other cases that would not work with Systainers at all.

    If both regular and Midi were complete lines and worked together would you really use only the Midi line? Even if they were too large or a stack became cumbersome due to size and or weight?

     The regular and Midi play well together because they are standard in height increments, depth, and are connectable. Even the Classics still work, which is good due to the usefulness and variety of the older drawer units.

    The Maxi Sys is a bit of a dinosaur and does not work well with anything else. Yes, regular Systainers attach to the top of it but not in a very usable way. And the handle is on the side. This less than optimal compatibility is not he case with Midi.

   It is a modular system with a variety of sizes so that they can be used to hold a lot of different things and rearranged, reorganized, expanded, contracted as needed.

   I guess it depends upon how much indefinite future you really need. I am sure you will be able to buy them for quite some time even if they are discontinued.

Seth
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