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It always amazes me when pros do not have the tools to do the job they are supposed to be doing.  [blink]


I agree. 

Must be 80% of trades I’ve met who don’t.   They either fallen behind in modern times or just seem to be able to get away with it most the times.

Currently the worst trade which have fallen behind are plasterers and painters in the U.K. which doesn’t seem to be the case in mainland Europe or USA though from what I’ve seen online.

Bricklayers are next the amount which don’t actually have a drill and SDS is unbelievable.  I know they don’t need many tools but surely drilling in ties and timber to run a line is a day to day challenge surely.   
They seem to like to try and fit ours roofs when ever they can.  I even had two bricklayers fitting all studding and door linings on a job I was working on because it was poor weather outside so they decided to find themselfs some internal work..   It was their job but I refused to fit doors to them had to refit them all.  They used 40mm lost head nails to fix frames in.

Winds me up!

Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: Track Saw Suggestions
« Last post by Sometimewoodworker on Today at 01:41 AM »

Newbie question about Festool's track saws.

Every one was in your position at some time

  I'm a hobbyist and I'm mostly interested in building furniture with hand tools and joinery.  I typically work with hard woods and I've recently thought about making table tops with glue-ups as slabs can get very expensive.

If you are making longer cuts or using heavy pieces of timber while a really good table saw can do those a Track saw is better and faster

I'm sold on the Domino for sure.  My question is this, is the Festool track saw a good compromise to a table saw, or will I find myself needing a table saw more often than not?  I'd like something that can break down hard woods to size quickly and accurately. 
It rather depends on the kind of stock that you are starting with, if it's rough sawn then you are going to need a planer and thicknesser (U.K. Terms) as well anyway. As to speed and accuracy experience helps but I would say yes.

I use mostly mortise and tenon joints.  I know that I can use a table saw to break down the joints quickly and that will allow me to go in with chisels and hand planes to further tighten/perfect the joints.  Is the track saw suitable for that kind of work? 
For smaller pieces the table saw wins. But  not if you are using a Domino you will not be using hand tools as the joints will be perfect (if you cut them in the correct place)

When you get to really big pieces then a hand saw and chisels will be the best way, unless you can use a router.

For me a track saw and (very) small table saw does virtually everything I need.

I have the funds to buy a good table saw as I have the funds to buy a Kapex neither of them are sufficiently better than the tools I have to make me spend that kind of money.
The accuracy you've described is about what I get.  It will work fine for frameless casework.  I've cut up hundreds of sheets of plywood for cases that go together well.

I'll offer a suggestion.  Unless you have access to outstandingly flat and stable plywood, I wouldn't go frameless for wall cabinets.

The narrower sides tops and bottoms are more susceptible to slight bowing.  You can take the bow out of the back edges of the sides top and bottom with stretchers or a solid back.  But since the front can't have stretchers the bow may still be there on the front edges.  You can't put stretchers across the front, obviously, and nobody goes with fixed shelves any more.  The face frame will remove the bow or completely hide it.  It also makes the wall cabinets a little stronger which isn't a bad thing.

Also you don't really lose storage space in wall cabinets with face frames.  You can go with full overlay doors and achieve the same 1/8" overlay just like your frameless base cabinets. 
How about a Swiss Sys Card !  [big grin]

Do I need
Do I want one...maybe...maybe not
But that card sure possesses a certain cool 😎 factor and that’s priceless.  [big grin]

Put holes in it so it can be used as a drill size checker.

The it would be a Swiss cheese Sys Card  [tongue]

In another thread someone said he made both Makita and Festool saws fit the track the same in relation to the splinter guard but it wasn’t clear if he adjusted both saws or only the Festool to match the Makita.
Festool Tools & Accessories / Re: Track Saw Suggestions
« Last post by Michael Kellough on Today at 12:27 AM »
With familiarity with a tool you can do things it isn’t”meant” to do. I’ve used a track saw (TS55) to cut a small piece of end grain from a floor board in order to fill an exposed groove at a landing. A piece about 5/16” x 3/8” x 1/4”. Way too small to safely cut on a table saw (without special fixtures) but with back stops and tape it could be captured well enough to cut with the track saw.
Gorilla glue is better as a shim/filler than adhesive.
How about a Swiss Sys Card !  [big grin]

Do I need
Do I want one...maybe...maybe not
But that card sure possesses a certain cool 😎 factor and that’s priceless.  [big grin]

Put holes in it so it can be used as a drill size checker.
I have a minor technical point of agreement with Scorpian and Gregor. Sucking up big clumps of pure dust is not similar to using a saw/vac (or any other tool). A substantial amount of dust within a clump passing into the clear bin is shielded from the updraft airstream that goes to the vac bag.

This makes the ratio of total weight in the bin compared to weight of the bag a little off in favor of the CT Cyclone. Not nearly enough to discredit the test. Thanks for doing that Don!

Still think making 20 cuts in mdf with both systems would provide a measurable amount of dust and be a good simulation of actual workshop use.
Member Connections and Introductions / Re: Hurricane Recovery
« Last post by jobsworth on Yesterday at 11:38 PM »
My buddy who lives near ashville called me today. he said everything ok there. I shouldnt have a problem. Once we touch down and I walk off the jet Ill be OK..
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